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ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
I think you're being a bit naive, even 3 years ago it would not have been possible in Anaheim. You would have had to go back closer to 6 years ago. And what was Disney doing 6 years ago, going through a major overhaul of DCA. They would not have been will to move forward on a 3rd gate because DCA was not standing on its own. Heck its still barely able to stand on its own now.

DHS was half a day park at best before. Now once TSL and SWL are finished it'll be a full day park. Again a park has to be able to stand on its own before they're willing to build another. Its a waste of money to open another partial day park just because you want them to.

DHS became a half day park due to Disney being cheap and shuttering rides which were expensive to operate. There was nothing conceptually wrong with DHS which for a long time was my second favorite park after AK, To be complete it needed the 'toontown' buildout and Pixar Place to be completed

But DHS as a park never handled crowds well. Shoehorning SWL into DHS will only create gridlock of epic proportions and a similar disaster will occur at DL with SWL being stuffed into what used to be toon town.

SWL needed to be its own gate with emphasis on 'people eaters' and traffic flow.
 

Castle Cake Apologist

Well-Known Member
Master Ghandi, do you think you can give @mickEblu and I some words of healing and peace about DL Pirates of the Carribean upcoming auction scene change? We are deathly afraid & filled with anxiety that we are getting a carbon copy of WDW's awful version.

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There are some things even Master Gandhi cannot help with, I am so very sorry. Soon HoB West members will also get to strike their feathers and show us their flock.

Perhaps you can find peace in knowing that we're all in this together, much like we are with the disappointing Pixar experiences both coasts are getting this summer.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
DHS became a half day park due to Disney being cheap and shuttering rides which were expensive to operate. There was nothing conceptually wrong with DHS which for a long time was my second favorite park after AK, To be complete it needed the 'toontown' buildout and Pixar Place to be completed

But DHS as a park never handled crowds well. Shoehorning SWL into DHS will only create gridlock of epic proportions and a similar disaster will occur at DL with SWL being stuffed into what used to be toon town.

SWL needed to be its own gate with emphasis on 'people eaters' and traffic flow.

So you obviously have some very very very old outdated information with regards to SWL at DL. It is not being stuffed into what used to be Toon Town. Toon Town is still there and opened everyday. SWL is located primarily on land that was backstage. The only on-stage area that it took over was the Big Thunder Ranch BBQ area. I suggest you review our DL SWL thread here to get up-to-date.

I think we can all agree that TDO has been mismanaging WDW for quite awhile. But facts on the ground still do not change. Investments into parks worldwide have been increasing now for most of the last decade. And it doesn't appear to be stopping any time soon, provided there isn't an economic catastrophe here in the US.

Domestic park decisions are now being lead by the more innovative teams in TDA, as noted by recent change in P&R executive structure lead by Catherine Powell. DLR has been and continues to be the cash generator for P&R for most of this decade. So they are going to make decisions now based on how TDA has been managing DLR successfully for a long time.

You can see some of how TDA is cheering this decision in the thread created by our very own TP2000 here.

Long term this will be good for P&R.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Really? That seems so unlike you?

Do you think they would revisit plans to add a new scene there?
Really. I didn’t think they’d be dumb enough to change the story into something so stupid.

I don’t know. The idea that messing with Pirates of the Caribbean and The Haunted Mansion has become some sort of right of passage at Walt Disney Imagineering has grown tired.

Are you a convert to the dark side like your purple, velour track suit wearing BFF?
Yep.

By the way, I've been meaning to ask you. Would I be able to butter you up at all if I told you that I went to The Disney Family Museum to see the Salvador Dali exhibit a few years ago?
I don’t know. It reminds me that I haven’t been to The Walt Disney Family Museum and missed the Disney exhibit at The Dalí.

Only on WDWmagic can you reveal something like that & everybody on here be like.....That's legit.
No, that’s just gross.
 

Castle Cake Apologist

Well-Known Member
Really. I didn’t think they’d be dumb enough to change the story into something so stupid.

I don’t know. The idea that messing with Pirates of the Caribbean and The Haunted Mansion has become some sort of right of passage at Walt Disney Imagineering has grown tired.


Yep.


I don’t know. It reminds me that I haven’t been to The Walt Disney Family Museum and missed the Disney exhibit at The Dalí.


No, that’s just gross.

The worst part of the Sparrow additions for me (of which there arrre many many bad parts) is the fact that everybody keeps calling him "Captain" Jack Sparrow.

Literally one of the most memorable tropes in the movies is that nobody but Jack Sparrow considers Jack Sparrow to be a captain.
 

VJ

Well-Known Member
The worst part of the Sparrow additions for me (of which there arrre many many bad parts) is the fact that everybody keeps calling him "Captain" Jack Sparrow.

Literally one of the most memorable tropes in the movies is that nobody but Jack Sparrow considers Jack Sparrow to be a captain.
I wanted one of the scenes (either the barrel or dress scenes) to have them keep calling him Jack Sparrow and he's just silently muttering "ugh... Captain... Captain Jack Sparrow..."

That said, even as a big (really big) fan of the Pirates franchise, I'd cut out almost every blatant spoken reference to Jack Sparrow. The Barbossa lines can stay because it makes sense story-wise, but the others come off as obnoxious. It makes sense that the pirates would be after the treasure map and Jack's after the map too, but it doesn't make sense that they're after Jack who has the map...
 

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