Guardians Tower announcement Saturday in SD ...

Californian Elitist

Californian Elitist

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Tahu said:
BH6 doesn't really have to do with Hollywood, but the Tower's kinda tucked in an isolated corner away from the rest of Hollywoodland anyways and BH6 probably wouldn't involve turning the tower into a disgusting industrial/steampunk looking monstrosity.
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It's a little tucked away, sure, but it's still properly themed to the land. I could see if you were talking about Monsters, which is not only tucked away from everything else, but has nothing to do with the theme, whatsoever.
 
asianway

asianway

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tirian said:
@WDW1974

The problem is, my generation was brainwashed with three massive lies that make people feel warm and fuzzy, and ignore underlying problems.

1) Everyone's opinion is equally valid, regardless of the knowledge involved.

2) Don't think for yourself; spit out the answer for the test and accept whatever the status quo tells you.

3) If someone disagrees with you, shun and humiliate that person because everyone should always get along!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The widespread acceptance and defense of Disney's low standards and minimal creativity are a microcosmic example of much larger issues.
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I dont want to like this post, I want to marry it.
 
TP2000

TP2000

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Variable said:
They're traditionally short on boy-centric characters, so much emphasis on princesses for the girls. And princesses are cross-generation. What boy's tend to get is outlaw pirates, some frilly dressed colonial sort of figures, maybe a prince or knight, and not much else. Boys don't go around fantasizing about being princes, or knights much anymore.
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I'm old and I can tell you that boys never fantasized about being princes or knights. At least not since the 16th century. Back in the 20th century boys fantasized about being Cowboys & Indians, army soldiers or Marines, astronauts, and any number of comic book superheroes.

One of the most ridiculous things to come out of the New Fantasyland announcement of 2009 at D23 was Jay Rasulo's idiotic and vapid description of all the Princess Meet n Greets and Girl Power Attractions coming to the new land. And then they had some WDI intern quickly paint in boys pretending to be valiant knights with cardboard shields while their sisters were swept away to Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique for their glitter hair makeover.

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That 2009 D23 Expo announcement proved to me that Jay Rasulo was nothing more than a clueless stuffed shirt, and WDI was belching out marketable mish-mash meant to please executives and a slim slice of customer demographic. No 8 year old boy would want to hang out "pretending to be a knight" in a Princess Palace when he could be getting ready to puke on Space Mountain or throwing dirt clods on Tom Sawyer Island. Jay Rasulo was an idiot.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
TP2000 said:
I'm old and I can tell you that boys never fantasized about being princes or knights. At least not since the 16th century. Back in the 20th century boys fantasized about being Cowboys & Indians, army soldiers or Marines, astronauts, and any number of comic book superheroes.

One of the most ridiculous things to come out of the New Fantasyland announcement of 2009 at D23 was Jay Rasulo's idiotic and vapid description of all the Princess Meet n Greets and Girl Power Attractions coming to the new land. And then they had some WDI intern quickly paint in boys pretending to be valiant knights with cardboard shields while their sisters were swept away to Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique for their glitter hair makeover.

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That 2009 D23 Expo announcement proved to me that Jay Rasulo was nothing more than a clueless stuffed shirt, and WDI was belching out marketable mish-mash meant to please executives and a slim slice of customer demographic. No 8 year old boy would want to hang out "pretending to be a knight" in a Princess Palace when he could be getting ready to puke on Space Mountain or throwing dirt clods on Tom Sawyer Island. Jay Rasulo was an idiot.
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Same here, You forgot driving REALLY BIG CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT for things boys dreamed of doing, When I was a kid I had a Tonka Backhoe, Now I have the real thing by Case... (and I STILL have the Tonka one :) ) Boys never outgrow their toys...
 
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Variable

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ford91exploder said:
Killed off I believe is the correct interpretation, See what Diagon Alley did for USO that's the kind of environment Disney USED to build where even the FOOD is themed to the surroundings.
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I agree in spirit. The QS food in particular has become homogenized, run of the mill.
But look at the effort at skippers canteen to "theme it up" a bit. Has been met with a lot of guest resistance.
So there is a lot of "We want chicken nuggets! We want taco salad! We want fries! My kids are picky!"

Disney can't take all the blame.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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Variable said:
I agree in spirit. The QS food in particular has become homogenized, run of the mill.
But look at the effort at skippers canteen to "theme it up" a bit. Has been met with a lot of guest resistance.
So there is a lot of "We want chicken nuggets! We want taco salad! We want fries! My kids are picky!"

Disney can't take all the blame.
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No but you can deal with that by having nuggets etc 'off menu' so if the guest WANTS them they are there just not a primary offering, Just like you can get chicken fingers and Mac-n-Cheese at the Leaky Cauldron.

Remember most chain restaurants have 'off menu' or 'secret menu' items. Like really big burger stacks and 'Animal Style' at In-n-Out burger.
 
Andrew C

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
TP2000 said:
I'm old and I can tell you that boys never fantasized about being princes or knights. At least not since the 16th century. Back in the 20th century boys fantasized about being Cowboys & Indians, army soldiers or Marines, astronauts, and any number of comic book superheroes.

One of the most ridiculous things to come out of the New Fantasyland announcement of 2009 at D23 was Jay Rasulo's idiotic and vapid description of all the Princess Meet n Greets and Girl Power Attractions coming to the new land. And then they had some WDI intern quickly paint in boys pretending to be valiant knights with cardboard shields while their sisters were swept away to Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique for their glitter hair makeover.

D23_CinderellaDance.jpg


That 2009 D23 Expo announcement proved to me that Jay Rasulo was nothing more than a clueless stuffed shirt, and WDI was belching out marketable mish-mash meant to please executives and a slim slice of customer demographic. No 8 year old boy would want to hang out "pretending to be a knight" in a Princess Palace when he could be getting ready to puke on Space Mountain or throwing dirt clods on Tom Sawyer Island. Jay Rasulo was an idiot.
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I would like to be one of these knights though....
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ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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wdisney9000 said:
From what she's been told, NM efforts to boost the bottom line have consisted primarily of cutting back employee hours and extending store hours. Shocker. You would think TDO was in charge.
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Remember when companies were run by senior executives who may have started in the proverbial 'Mail Room' or Customer service, Now companies are run by Frat Boys who partied through school, Got accepted to the 'management training' program and effectively never held a REAL job doing real work ever. And the only reaction to a business downturn is to CUT, CUT, CUT.
 
asianway

asianway

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TP2000 said:
I'm old and I can tell you that boys never fantasized about being princes or knights. At least not since the 16th century. Back in the 20th century boys fantasized about being Cowboys & Indians, army soldiers or Marines, astronauts, and any number of comic book superheroes.

One of the most ridiculous things to come out of the New Fantasyland announcement of 2009 at D23 was Jay Rasulo's idiotic and vapid description of all the Princess Meet n Greets and Girl Power Attractions coming to the new land. And then they had some WDI intern quickly paint in boys pretending to be valiant knights with cardboard shields while their sisters were swept away to Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique for their glitter hair makeover.

D23_CinderellaDance.jpg


That 2009 D23 Expo announcement proved to me that Jay Rasulo was nothing more than a clueless stuffed shirt, and WDI was belching out marketable mish-mash meant to please executives and a slim slice of customer demographic. No 8 year old boy would want to hang out "pretending to be a knight" in a Princess Palace when he could be getting ready to puke on Space Mountain or throwing dirt clods on Tom Sawyer Island. Jay Rasulo was an idiot.
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Funny how those crappy knight cut outs survived to enchanted tales
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Matt_Black said:
So, all those boys playing Dungeons & Dragons for 40 plus years actually wanted to be cowboys and had to settle for medieval fantasy?!?
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In D&D you were a wizard, warrior or thief (i'm oversimplifying) but Knights and Princes just not there, You could be a paladin but that's as close as it gets.
 
Matt_Black

Matt_Black

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ford91exploder said:
In D&D you were a wizard, warrior or thief (i'm oversimplifying) but Knights and Princes just not there, You could be a paladin but that's as close as it gets.
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There were no Knight or Prince classes, but that doesn't mean you couldn't play as one anyway. There were no "Knights" or "Princes" available to play in the same way there were no "Butchers", "Bakers" or "Candlestick Makers".
 

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