Guardians Tower announcement Saturday in SD ...

danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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Variable said:
Guys, get a sat photo. They're available now.
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Variable

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mmartin046 said:
The original ride system would have allowed for a single free-fall drop with the elevator moving out of the open doors at the top and down through a hidden run-out track, as if it had vanished after exiting the building. The track was the same as Cedar Point's Demon Drop, with guests lying flat on their backs as the car decelerates. The elevator would then right itself and drop again to an unload track. Guests would see an AA Rod Serling at the end as he delivered his spiel. The script, dated 1991, hits the same beats as the current attraction. There are interesting show scene differences. After we see the ghostly hotel guests in the hallway, the elevator doors close and the car travels up a floor, opening to a hallway identical to the last. The walls of the hotel distort and become transparent, revealing the Twilight Zone starfield. The elevator begins moving through the starfield, toward a materializing door of light. The door opens to an image of our elevator car. The image stretches, distorts, and drops out of sight. Our car drops. Out of a starfield we see another door of light; it opens and the familiar Twilight Zone icons (manikin, math formula, window) float out and pass through our elevator door frame. The last icon is an eye. As the eye moves closer toward us, we see in its pupil our elevator car. Our image distorts; the eye closes and floats away. The doors of light close. We see our elevator car. The image flips around, shatters, and the shards are sucked into "a swirling cloud of light and shadow." The Twilight Zone icons are thrown from this vortex, stretching and distorting along the way. Our car image flies out of the vortex; it stretches and zooms upward. Our car ascends the shaft, reaches the top, exits the shaft, drops.

Even with a script and storyboard arrangement, this sequence of events is pretty confusing, which I guess is the point.
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whew Very elaborate. As if they were trying to physically create a "passing into the tz" sequence similar to what was done with animation, old school fx for the show/movies of the era. Very difficult.

Geeze that would've been great!
 
Donaldfan1934

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choco choco said:
It is difficult to add stuff to Disneyland. TP2000's statement :


is entirely incorrect, as space that was used as valuable back of the house and about 1/3 of an existing attraction cannot be considered - under any definition of the word - "unused." Of course, Star Wars space is in fact replacing something old - as it is replacing parts of Rivers of America - for something new.

But back to the current point. Disneyland can logistically only grow west, into land that is currently asphalt parking lots. Again, if they were hell-bent on glomming Star Wars land to Disneyland (Mistake #1), this parking lot was their smartest choice. That way, if future generations wanted to expand another land into Disneyland, they could ring entrances to each land around the Rivers of America (kind of like how Hong Kong Disneyland designed multiple lands around their big river).

Instead, TDA/Burbank/Idiot Planner decided to cut off all expansion by having Star Wars land and their show buildings take up the entire distance between Critter Country and Big Thunder Ranch, thereby cutting off the ability for any future lands to be accessed off a central route (Mistake #2). They then announced the west lot would be taken up by a gargantuan hotel, thus taking the land that could have been Disneyland's (Mistake #3). And then they announced the building of an undersized parking structure on the Sybron/Pumbaa lot, instead of considering turning car access for the entire resort around and having all day parking concentrated in Sybron/Pumbaa. Since that plot abuts the 5 Freeway, all cars could then come directly on and off the freeway without having to navigate side streets like they currently do (Mistake #4). In addition, having that lot maximally built out now will save money in the future, because it will be ready-made for when they open a 3rd gate (Pumbaa is the only lot that has easy access to the Strawberry Field site) and clears the way for a Mickey and Friends demolition, which would have given Disneyland further expansion room if they had gone with a "Lands' Branched Around Rivers Of America" site plan.

But no: in a single, ill-conceived stroke, Iger managed to take out a pretty historical part of the current Disneyland and simultaneously block any ability for his successors to add on without exorbitant cost (essentially, leveling Star Wars land sometime in the future), despite the fact that a good masterplan could have avoided both. He's not a very bright one, that guy.
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Wow, that is a massive load of truth right there.
 
Ismael Flores

Ismael Flores

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raven24 said:
The Monorail does not travel around the Matterhorn, SBC, and small world. Even if it did, it is completely different from the Trolley. The Red Car Trolley is a very specific period-themed mode of transportation, unlike the Monorail.
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Wait did they change the monorail track? Lol

Last 45 years I have been going I swear I saw it go past IASW go south and run right next to the Matterhorn and the side of the castle then hug the Matterhorn and head back to tomorrowland?

So a trolley can't run during other time periods?
do they just stop existing after the time they are built?
Something that is built in the 1920's, 1930's 1940's AND Beyond would not look out of place moving in front of newer structures. We as fans have dated the Hollywood backlot to a specific period but last time i saw there was still an animation building that looks like it was built years after some of the other buildings represented in that mismatched land.

I don't think the date of a mode of transportation has ever been an issue when it passes specific lands in A Disney park. If that was the case the we wouldn't have a steam train passing next to tomorrowland either. I'm sure that having phones lit up with people playing games and huge strollers is more out of place with the theming than a couple minutes than the trolley passes by
 
Ismael Flores

Ismael Flores

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raven24 said:
False.

The DLRR travels in front of/through small world. One can catch a glimpse of small world and a better glimpse of Matterhorn while riding the Monorail, but it in no way makes a complete trip around the mountain and it sure as heck doesn't travel in front of small world.
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The track is right against the mountain on both the west side and south side of it. And it also passes on the east side a few yards away.
 
Ismael Flores

Ismael Flores

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raven24 said:
I skipped this part of your post, somehow.

The user tried to make a point that the passing by ToT in the Red Car Trolley is the same as the Monorail passing SBC, Matterhorn, and small world. That was the point, not the simple fact the Monorail passes by Matterhorn.

Not the same thing.
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How is that not the same thing? A trolley passing in front of a structure that will be different in time and place is closer to theming because it's a mode of transportation in front of a building than a monorail passing next to a Swiss mountain
Bend your words all you want it's the same thing like it or not.
Hate it when people think they always have to be right and can't swallow their pride and say yes the monorail passes the Matterhorn and Walt didn't mind.
And he even promoted a futuristic monorail, a rocket and a speed ramp in front of a Swiss mountain
 

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