News Guardians of the Galaxy party coming to Epcot this summer

[King Panda 77]

Well that's DINOSAUR. Not Jurassic Park.

And that is a statement not an explanation.

 

[peter11435]

I understand it perfectly. And I hope most of you eventually will too....

Clearly you do not

 

[Pam Hates Penguins]

And that is a statement not an explanation.

It's both

 

[peter11435]

It's both

So using science to bring back an extinct dinosaur is not ok but using science to create a time machine to go back in time and bring back an extinct dinosaur is ok?

 

[MaximumEd]

C’mon, folks. You know you can’t reason someone out of a position they never reasoned themselves into in the first place.

 

[King Panda 77]

It's both

I will take
" clearly it isn't " for $100 please.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Hmmm. I would say visiting it multiple times in my life counts as understanding the theme park. I have rode every single ride. And my least favorite..... Flight of Passage. Why? I am on a Chuck-E-Cheese ride looking at a giant screen with my 3D glasses.

Can we petition that Pam's username be changed to Pam Hates Everything.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Nailed it. But we could say that about a few things besides Pandora where some are concerned. Just like some people criticizing Disney Springs would eat up the restaurants and shops if Universal were building them. Or if say Rat weren't a movie and the imagineers came up with a fun romp around a Paris kitchen featuring a rat.

When the Frozen to Norway rumors were just that, there was also the Ratatouille to France rumors going on. The consensus on here was that they should have been announced together. Ratatouille will be the best fit of the three IP inspired rides in World Showcase (although a Coco overlay would be better than Rat). Ratatouille at least pays reference to something significant to French culture (their food) and includes French visuals. Gran Fiesta Tour hits on cultural aspects as well, but most of that was El Rio del Tiempo and not the overlay. Frozen Ever After has nothing to do with Norway. Had they taken a similar story approach to Frozen Ever After as they did to Royal Sommerhus it may have been more acceptable for the park. Instead they built a ride that belongs in Fantasyland as we all feared.

 

[RSoxNo1]

That's actually an interesting thought. Imagine this land without the film attached...

I am a big Pandora fan too (not the film). I think thematically it fits AK much better than some of these other IP additions the parks are getting.

It's been my argument since the initial announcement, and their execution on the thematic elements/story treatment were flawless. That doesn't mean the rides are perfect, but the thematic fit is better than a direct lift of Mysterious Island would have been.

 

[Kman101]

When the Frozen to Norway rumors were just that, there was also the Ratatouille to France rumors going on. The consensus on here was that they should have been announced together. Ratatouille will be the best fit of the three IP inspired rides in World Showcase (although a Coco overlay would be better than Rat). Ratatouille at least pays reference to something significant to French culture (their food) and includes French visuals. Gran Fiesta Tour hits on cultural aspects as well, but most of that was El Rio del Tiempo and not the overlay. Frozen Ever After has nothing to do with Norway. Had they taken a similar story approach to Frozen Ever After as they did to Royal Sommerhus it may have been more acceptable for the park. Instead they built a ride that belongs in Fantasyland as we all feared.

Frozen's ride would be great ... if it were in Fantasyland. Agreed with your post.

Personally I'm glad we're getting Rat (despite some of it's flaws that people like to list) and was really hoping we'd get the Coco overlay. Hopefully that will come eventually.

Frozen just doesn't fit. It could have. I think they think they tried but it's a Fantasyland style attraction. Which is still loud and clanky and feels as bad as it did when it was Maelstrom.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I think Disney is under the impression that we just like EPCOT Center for the 80's aspect, and what is their big modern 80's property? GotG.

This is the dumbest idea I've ever heard from Disney. And this is only happening because Epcot has nothing for the summer season (or MK for that matter).

There is a Guardians treatment that DOES fit in Epcot and in EPCOT Center. When these rumors were circulating on here, myself and others suggested that Peter Quill very likely went to EPCOT Center as a kid. The problem becomes if that's nothing more than lip service. There is a treatment that can work, it's just a matter of whether or not they do it. Frozen Ever After tells me they won't do it, but Rohde being in charge of Marvel gives me hope.

In my opinion, Rohde is the best story teller in Imagineering, especially non-linear story telling.

 

[RSoxNo1]

It's Disney's Animal Kingdom. Not Disney's Alien Kingdom...

Some themes in the Animal Kingdom (bolded is Disney language, unbolded is my narrative):

• The intrinsic and superior value of nature - this means that nature, above all else is at the forefront of the design. This leads to parts of the park being out of their true control (live animals, overgrown pathways, etc.).
• Transformation through adventure - this idea is that adventure changes people when they experience something they've never experienced before.
• Personal call to action - a sense of responsibility for the animals and the conservation message.

The dedication plaque (bold is my emphasis):

Welcome to a kingdom of animals... real, ancient and imagined;
a kingdom ruled by lions, dinosaurs and dragons;
a kingdom of balance, harmony and survival;
a kingdom we enter to share in the wonder,
gaze at the beauty, thrill at the drama
and learn.

I know I'm arguing with a troll and I could agree with you so you'd move on, but if I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.

 

[CoasterSnoop]

I didn't like the idea for that area anyway. Why? This is Disney's Animal Kingdom. Not Disney's Mystical Creature Kingdom.

Dragons are mythical animals.

 

[King Panda 77]

Dragons are mythical animals.

Maybe if they added strobe lights over any dinosaurs that would be a better thematic experience.

 

[Pam Hates Penguins]

Guys, I'm sorry if my opinion disturbs you all in any way shape or form. Let it go. (no frozen intended) I'm not a fan of Avatar Land.

 

[King Panda 77]

Guys, I'm sorry if my opinion disturbs you all in any way shape or form. Let it go. (no frozen intended) I'm not a fan of Avatar Land.

I can understand if you don't like the land ( i was unimpressed ). I just don't see how you can say the idea doesn't fit in with the theme of the park as a whole.

 

[monothingie]

So using science to bring back an extinct dinosaur is not ok but using science to create a time machine to go back in time and bring back an extinct dinosaur is ok?

 

[PizzaPlanet]

Can we petition that Pam's username be changed to Pam Hates Everything.

It would certainly make @MisterPenguin feel a lot better. Or how about Pam Hates Everything Except Cars Land?

 

[spacemt354]

This is Disney's Animal Kingdom. Not Disney's Mystical Creature Kingdom.

Animal Kingdom's Dedication, April 22, 1998

"Welcome to a kingdom of animals... real, ancient and imagined: a kingdom ruled by lions, dinosaurs and dragons; a kingdom of balance, harmony and survival; a kingdom we enter to share in the wonder, gaze at the beauty, thrill at the drama, and learn."
- Michael Eisner

 

[larryz]

If only Disney had produced Happy feet. That would have been a shoe in at DAK.

Penguins don't wear shoes.