Guardians of the Galaxy - Mission: BREAKOUT! Reviews, Photos, Info

[shambolicdefending]

Read the posts. Get rid of TTZ and leave the haunted Hollywood hotel theme.

No, the same ride with references to TWZ removed. Still venturing into a haunted hotel and risking our souls being trapped in an alternate dimension, just a reworked library video and script/score.

Well, maybe. But first of all the viability of that depends on whether Disney completely owns the story in whatever licensing agreement they had with CBS. Not sure on that one. Maybe somebody else knows.

But, either way, I guess I come back to... why? The story was good, but I never considered it so good that even a watered down (or completely rewritten) version should be preserved over another popular theme.

That's like calling Star Tours a magic motion machine ride or Space Mountain a lackluster kiddie coaster. Disney adds the theme and style giving simple attractions a sense of being more than they are. They engage the mind. And TOT has wait times appropriate for it. The ride has great capacity in an under-attended theme park. Mission BO sits at the same 25-45 window that ToT had.

Sure, I pretty much agree with what you're saying. The ToT story was great fun and made the ride something better than just an average drop tower. But, I think your last sentence kind of goes along with my overall thoughts. The popularity of GGMB seems more or less equal to ToT based on wait times, which would indicate that the change in story really didn't change the quality of the ride for most people. I wouldn't put either version into a "classic" or "iconic" category.

Judging DCA on an unfinished product is dumb. We know there were plans for further development, just like what they did with Grizzly Airfield. If they put the money into those plans instead of MB, there’d be no disdain for DCA.

Right, but what I'm saying is that ToT went up before there were concrete plans for improving eastern DCA. Once those plans started to take shape in earnest, I feel like it was pretty clear that ToT was an odd attraction out. That, and the evolving media landscape made it untenable, really starting even before 2012. It was a very fine ride while it lasted but, it was on shaky ground long before the scaffolding for the re-skin went up.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

I just think some of you people take this stuff too seriously. You can't just have fun on a 3 minute amusement park elevator ride.

 

[TROR]

Well, maybe. But first of all the viability of that depends on whether Disney completely owns the story in whatever licensing agreement they had with CBS. Not sure on that one. Maybe somebody else knows.

But, either way, I guess I come back to... why? The story was good, but I never considered it so good that even a watered down (or completely rewritten) version should be preserved over another popular theme.

Well, maybe. But first of all the viability of that depends on whether Disney completely owns the story in whatever licensing agreement they had with CBS. Not sure on that one. Maybe somebody else knows.

But, either way, I guess I come back to... why? The story was good, but I never considered it so good that even a watered down (or completely rewritten) version should be preserved over another popular theme.



Sure, I pretty much agree with what you're saying. The ToT story was great fun and made the ride something better than just an average drop tower. But, I think your last sentence kind of goes along with my overall thoughts. The popularity of GGMB seems more or less equal to ToT based on wait times, which would indicate that the change in story really didn't change the quality of the ride for most people. I wouldn't put either version into a "classic" or "iconic" category.

Get rid of Guardians of the Galaxy’s popularity and it’s a less popular ride. Get rid of The Twilight Zone’s popularity and it’s still a popular ride. An IP’s popularity will fade but a theme’s won’t.

Right, but what I'm saying is that ToT went up before there were concrete plans for improving eastern DCA. Once those plans started to take shape in earnest, I feel like it was pretty clear that ToT was an odd attraction out. That, and the evolving media landscape made it untenable, really starting even before 2012. It was a very fine ride while it lasted but, it was on shaky ground long before the scaffolding for the re-skin went up.

Literally the exact opposite. Hollywood Land was set to be a 1930s Hollywood, perfect for Tower of Terror.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

It was themed to the type of music in the movie which played a big part at times.

Doesn't make too much sense to me either way. When I think of Guardians I think of futuristic.

 

[truecoat]

Doesn't make too much sense to me either way. When I think of Guardians I think of futuristic.

Ok, did you see the movie.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

I just think some of you people take this stuff too seriously. You can't just have fun on a 3 minute amusement park elevator ride.

The same applies to you for Haunted Mansion Holiday.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

Ok, did you see the movie.

No, I don't enjoy superhero movies (with the exception of Nolan's Dark Knight series). Probably part of the reason why I can't get into this Marvel universe at the parks.

 

[TROR]

Awesome Mix is part of Peter Quill’s character, but MB isn’t a Peter Quill ride.

 

[shambolicdefending]

Get rid of Guardians of the Galaxy’s popularity and it’s a less popular ride. Get rid of The Twilight Zone’s popularity and it’s still a popular ride. An IP’s popularity will fade but a theme’s won’t.

This is probably what our differing opinions boil down to. I don't think the story or theme is really that big of a deal to most people. Guardians, or otherwise. I would venture that they could probably come up with half a dozen more unrelated themes that would work just as well, if they wanted to.

Literally the exact opposite. Hollywood Land was set to be a 1930s Hollywood, perfect for Tower of Terror.

Well, yeah, that was the conceptual idea tied to the late 00s overhaul. But I'm not aware of any concrete plans that went beyond that. I could be wrong on this, but as far as my memory goes, eastern DCA was going Marvel pretty much as soon as they finally turned their attention in earnest to that part of the resort.

 

[truecoat]

No, I don't enjoy superhero movies (with the exception of Nolan's Dark Knight series). Probably part of the reason why I can't get into this Marvel universe at the parks.

Ok, that explains why the music doesn't make sense.

Spoiler: A little context

The main character was kidnapped by an alien as a child the night his mother passed away. He had his walkman with him with a mix tape his mom made and music used on GOTG:MB was of a similar vein as the mix tape and this music played throughout the movie. At the end, he opened an present he never had the courage to open from his mom and it was another mix tape. I've simplified it but he found a family within the Guardians group, as they all did.

A taste of that is right here. Now maybe you think this looks dumb but the movie works very well. Go to the 2 minute mark.

 

[TROR]

This is probably what our differing opinions boil down to. I don't think the story or theme is really that big of a deal to most people. Guardians, or otherwise. I would venture that they could probably come up with half a dozen more unrelated themes that would work just as well, if they wanted to.

Sacrifice art for product?

Well, yeah, that was the conceptual idea tied to the late 00s overhaul. But I'm not aware of any concrete plans that went beyond that. I could be wrong on this, but as far as my memory goes, eastern DCA was going Marvel pretty much as soon as they finally turned their attention in earnest to that part of the resort.

There was a lot of concept art and models showing plans for the land. It was always the plan until Chapek came along.

 

[shambolicdefending]

Sacrifice art for product?

If they both result in attractions that are essentially equal in popularity with ticket-buyers, then the distinction is ultimately irrelevant outside of one's personal preference. So, Disney will naturally go with the one that does NOT benefit an industry competitor.

There was a lot of concept art and models showing plans for the land. It was always the plan until Chapek came along.

I suppose I'd have to go back and relive it again. I honestly don't remember any plans that included specific ideas for new or improved attractions to grow that area of the park.

 

[TROR]

If they both result in attractions that are essentially equal in popularity with ticket-buyers, then the distinction is ultimately irrelevant outside of one's personal preference. So, Disney will naturally go with the one that does NOT benefit an industry competitor.

So there’s no reason for theme in theme parks?

I suppose I'd have to go back and relive it again. I honestly don't remember any plans that included specific ideas for new or improved attractions to grow that area of the park.

It was a remode like that of Condor Flats to Grizzly Airfield. Its main focus was to create a good land first and foremost.

 

[Mac Tonight]

They clearly should have turned TOT into the Sanctum Sanctorum and had Dr. Strange drop and lift you into different scenes using his wavy hand circles.

Full disclosure, I LOVE Dr. Strange and feel like his powers are super underrated. His efforts in the fight against Thanos in IW still blow my mind.

 

[DanielBB8]

"Get rid of Guardians of the Galaxy’s popularity and it’s a less popular ride. Get rid of The Twilight Zone’s popularity and it’s still a popular ride. An IP’s popularity will fade but a theme’s won’t."

Tower of Terror really isn't much Twilight Zone except for the theme music and narrator. They created something new (almost like what they did to Star Wars.) Twilight Zone had a moral story that is "ironic punishment". There's no irony in Tower of Terror. We are stepping into an episode that never happened. Take away the soundtrack and narrator and it's just another attraction. DCA's TOT didn't come with DHS' greatest special effect that is the elevator coming out of it's shaft and going into another shaft. So what you really enjoy is the 1940s stylized hotel that's somewhat spooky, but not really. My feeling is Twilight Zone evokes nostalgia more than Guardians. Warm fuzzies.

 

[TROR]

"Get rid of Guardians of the Galaxy’s popularity and it’s a less popular ride. Get rid of The Twilight Zone’s popularity and it’s still a popular ride. An IP’s popularity will fade but a theme’s won’t."

Tower of Terror really isn't much Twilight Zone except for the theme music and narrator. They created something new (almost like what they did to Star Wars.) Twilight Zone had a moral story that is "ironic punishment". There's no irony in Tower of Terror. We are stepping into an episode that never happened. Take away the soundtrack and narrator and it's just another attraction. DCA's TOT didn't come with DHS' greatest special effect that is the elevator coming out of it's shaft and going into another shaft. So what you really enjoy is the 1940s stylized hotel that's somewhat spooky, but not really. My feeling is Twilight Zone evokes nostalgia more than Guardians. Warm fuzzies.

Bingo. It’s a brilliant theme that is reminiscent of classic Disney storytelling.

 

[Professortango1]

If they both result in attractions that are essentially equal in popularity with ticket-buyers, then the distinction is ultimately irrelevant outside of one's personal preference. So, Disney will naturally go with the one that does NOT benefit an industry competitor.



I suppose I'd have to go back and relive it again. I honestly don't remember any plans that included specific ideas for new or improved attractions to grow that area of the park.

I'm sure if Disney replaced Storybookland with a Six Flags style coaster, they'd see much longer lines for that replacement. This doesn't mean that it would be a wise decision based upon Disney's reputation and brand.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

The storybook ride is a genuine classic, though. Nothing at DCA is classic.

 

[planodisney]

I know some don’t want to see Marvel in the parks, but I think whenever this DCA marvel land is fully completed with hub, Spiderman ride and the Avengers coaster, GOGMB will be enveloped into a land that doesn’t make it seem so out of place and will be appreciated over time. I know some of you have as well, but Dr. Hans and I have been on Disney fan sites long enough to remember the ToT opening and how the loyalists bashed it for being out of place, a desperate, misguided attempt to boost attendance and a second rate version that was inferior both aesthetically and in terms of the ride itself.
I must say however, the Dr. Strange idea sounds pretty damn cool!!

 

[Professortango1]

DCA's TOT didn't come with DHS' greatest special effect that is the elevator coming out of it's shaft and going into another shaft.

The 5th Dimension Room was groundbreaking, but the designing of the actual space was rushed and a miss, as Imagineers themselves have said. The groundbreaking effect also has its own set up issues. Sure, DCA's didn't have this feature, but the trade off was that we got a more reliable attraction, a really nice practical effect with the mirror scene, a drop scare after the hallway scene, and a more thrilling pace to the entire attraction. The effect of having the car leave the shaft is almost duplicated with the car pulling away from the doors and having the elevator shaft melt away into nothingness; a great bookending effect for the ride which serves the story. What we gained by not having the trackless vehicles I think is outweighed by what we gained, especially as elevators combined with darkride vehicles are becoming more common (Transformers, Rise of the Resistance).