Guardians of the Galaxy - Mission: BREAKOUT! Reviews, Photos, Info

shambolicdefending

Well-Known Member
Seems like neither ToT or GGMB are particularly iconic Disney attractions.

One is based on an ancient non-Disney TV show from the Kennedy administration that practically nobody under the age of 40 cares much about. It only avoids plot holes because it's set in a paranormal universe where normal logic and science don't apply. The other is a transparent attempt to stretch and jimmy a coherent story onto an already-built ride, promoting a movie series that is already started to stretch the limits of its shelf life.

At the end of the day, both of them are just fancier techno versions of your garden variety drop ride at Six Flags.
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
Yeah it’s never been good as Twilight Zone ride, but the theme of a haunted Hollywood hotel is great.

Yup. It wasn't so much about the story for me as it was about the atmosphere - as it is on all the other great Disney rides. "Rod Serlings" voice/ narration was a perfect match for the old Hollywood Haunted Hotel theme. Didn't really care for the pre-show or story but the atmosphere and theme were excellent. The on ride effects and sets (although limited) were so much better than TV's and a hunk of junk with Christmas lights. The starfield effect was maybe the best thing at DCA. The Haunted jazz music was fantastic (its my ringtone from time to time).

Not sure how anyone could expect the social commentary/ shocking twists from a 22 minute TV episode to be present on a three minute drop ride.
 

TROR

Well-Known Member
Seems like neither ToT or GGMB are particularly iconic Disney attractions.

One is based on an ancient non-Disney TV show from the Kennedy administration that practically nobody under the age of 40 cares much about. It only avoids plot holes because it's set in a paranormal universe where normal logic and science don't apply. The other is a transparent attempt to stretch and jimmy a coherent story onto an already-built ride, promoting a movie series that is already started to stretch the limits of its shelf life.

At the end of the day, both of them are just fancier techno versions of your garden variety drop ride at Six Flags.
Twilight Zone is a timeless property that has just recently been rebooted by Jordan Peele, breathing new life into it. Plenty of kids know what it is. This argument is so out of touch with today’s youth.

Not that it matters because the ride was never about the Twilights Zone. The only reason for the Twilight Zone’s inclusion is to justify its existence at DHS, a park about stepping into the movies and TV. With or without the Twilight Zone theme, Tower of Terror was a great ride that was perfect DCA. Its removal has drastically harmed the park and left a large hole.
 

Professortango1

Well-Known Member
Seems like neither ToT or GGMB are particularly iconic Disney attractions.

One is based on an ancient non-Disney TV show from the Kennedy administration that practically nobody under the age of 40 cares much about. It only avoids plot holes because it's set in a paranormal universe where normal logic and science don't apply. The other is a transparent attempt to stretch and jimmy a coherent story onto an already-built ride, promoting a movie series that is already started to stretch the limits of its shelf life.

At the end of the day, both of them are just fancier techno versions of your garden variety drop ride at Six Flags.

The inspiration doesn't make it a classic Disney attraction, the execution does. Indiana Jones is a non-Disney franchise, yet the ride is iconic and smacks of Disney magic. Same with Star Tours 1.0. I loved TOT because it was an amazing piece of storytelling and a thrilling ride, not because it was based on a TV show.
 

shambolicdefending

Well-Known Member
Twilight Zone is a timeless property that has just recently been rebooted by Jordan Peele, breathing new life into it. Plenty of kids know what it is. This argument is so out of touch with today’s youth.

Nobody said kids didn't know what it was. I'm sure most of them do, just like I did. Even though I was born long after it ended. I'm also pretty sure that not a lot of kids bothered to watch the reboot this spring since the ratings and reviews were mediocre, at best.

Not that it matters because the ride was never about the Twilights Zone. The only reason for the Twilight Zone’s inclusion is to justify its existence at DHS, a park about stepping into the movies and TV. With or without the Twilight Zone theme, Tower of Terror was a great ride that was perfect DCA. Its removal has drastically harmed the park and left a large hole.

How so?
 

shambolicdefending

Well-Known Member
The inspiration doesn't make it a classic Disney attraction, the execution does. Indiana Jones is a non-Disney franchise, yet the ride is iconic and smacks of Disney magic. Same with Star Tours 1.0. I loved TOT because it was an amazing piece of storytelling and a thrilling ride, not because it was based on a TV show.

An "amazing" piece of story telling? I mean, fair enough if that's how you felt. I probably wouldn't rate it in that high of a category. The story was solid. The ride was enjoyable. I would've been happy to see ToT stick around. But, the reality is that a CBS property was never going to survive in Anaheim in a 2020 media environment (I'm skeptical it will survive too much longer in Orlando).

So, what were we going to get instead? GGMB is probably about as good as we could've hoped for. The story is a little more awkward, but I still have just as much fun on the ride, overall. I like the music.
 

TROR

Well-Known Member
Nobody said kids didn't know what it was. I'm sure most of them do, just like I did. Even though I was born long after it ended. I'm also pretty sure that not a lot of kids bothered to watch the reboot this spring since the ratings and reviews were mediocre, at best.
Yeah but that’s because CBS is stupid.

Tower of Terror offered a high quality dark ride with a timeless theme and simple narrative on the level of classic Disneyland attractions. It offered romance and wonder: things DCA desperately needs in its attractions. Mission Breakout fails to supply these. This is also not to mention the perfect theme it offered for the new DCA of 2012, a theme completely torn apart by MB.

An "amazing" piece of story telling? I mean, fair enough if that's how you felt. I probably wouldn't rate it in that high of a category. The story was solid. The ride was enjoyable. I would've been happy to see ToT stick around. But, the reality is that a CBS property was never going to survive in Anaheim in a 2020 media environment (I'm skeptical it will survive too much longer in Orlando).

So, what were we going to get instead? GGMB is probably about as good as we could've hoped for. The story is a little more awkward, but I still have just as much fun on the ride, overall. I like the music.
I thought we all agreed Tower of Terror works fine without TTZ theme? Strip that away, add a randomized drop profile, and Disney has saved millions of dollars while maintaining quality in their park and delivering higher guest satisfaction.
 

shambolicdefending

Well-Known Member
Yeah but that’s because CBS is stupid.

It could be CBS. Or it could be that paranormal themes rarely work that well outside of the horror genre. The last really good one the world saw was the X-Files, and we're coming up on 20 years since that petered out.

Tower of Terror offered a high quality dark ride with a timeless theme and simple narrative on the level of classic Disneyland attractions. It offered romance and wonder: things DCA desperately needs in its attractions.

Romance and wonder? We're talking about a drop ride. It took your picture while you got a fun aerial glimpse of north Orange County. Some of you were clearly more smitten by ToT than average wait times would've indicated...

Mission Breakout fails to supply these. This is also not to mention the perfect theme it offered for the new DCA of 2012, a theme completely torn apart by MB.

Well, that's a whole separate issue. The problem with DCA 2012 was that it still left the entire eastern half of the park basically lifeless, except for ToT. The jury is still out on what eastern DCA becomes, but 2012 status quo was not viable.

I thought we all agreed Tower of Terror works fine without TTZ theme? Strip that away, add a randomized drop profile, and Disney has saved millions of dollars while maintaining quality in their park and delivering higher guest satisfaction.

Are you suggesting NO theme? I'm confused what you're getting at here.
 

Professortango1

Well-Known Member
It could be CBS. Or it could be that paranormal themes rarely work that well outside of the horror genre. The last really good one the world saw was the X-Files, and we're coming up on 20 years since that petered out.

Black Mirror?

Romance and wonder? We're talking about a drop ride. It took your picture while you got a fun aerial glimpse of north Orange County. Some of you were clearly more smitten by ToT than average wait times would've indicated...

That's like calling Star Tours a magic motion machine ride or Space Mountain a lackluster kiddie coaster. Disney adds the theme and style giving simple attractions a sense of being more than they are. They engage the mind. And TOT has wait times appropriate for it. The ride has great capacity in an under-attended theme park. Mission BO sits at the same 25-45 window that ToT had.

Are you suggesting NO theme? I'm confused what you're getting at here.

No, the same ride with references to TWZ removed. Still venturing into a haunted hotel and risking our souls being trapped in an alternate dimension, just a reworked library video and script/score.
 

Phroobar

Well-Known Member
Black Mirror?



That's like calling Star Tours a magic motion machine ride or Space Mountain a lackluster kiddie coaster. Disney adds the theme and style giving simple attractions a sense of being more than they are. They engage the mind. And TOT has wait times appropriate for it. The ride has great capacity in an under-attended theme park. Mission BO sits at the same 25-45 window that ToT had.



No, the same ride with references to TWZ removed. Still venturing into a haunted hotel and risking our souls being trapped in an alternate dimension, just a reworked library video and script/score.
Just add an evil Tiki statue and make the owner of the hotel look like Joe Rhode.
 

TROR

Well-Known Member
It could be CBS. Or it could be that paranormal themes rarely work that well outside of the horror genre. The last really good one the world saw was the X-Files, and we're coming up on 20 years since that petered out.
It’s CBS. CBS All Access is a stupid idea. Nobody wants to pay for network television.

Romance and wonder? We're talking about a drop ride. It took your picture while you got a fun aerial glimpse of north Orange County. Some of you were clearly more smitten by ToT than average wait times would've indicated...
An elegant hotel in the golden age of Hollywood that’s been left haunted is romantic. Same as Haunted Mansion.

Well, that's a whole separate issue. The problem with DCA 2012 was that it still left the entire eastern half of the park basically lifeless, except for ToT. The jury is still out on what eastern DCA becomes, but 2012 status quo was not viable.
Judging DCA on an unfinished product is dumb. We know there were plans for further development, just like what they did with Grizzly Airfield. If they put the money into those plans instead of MB, there’d be no disdain for DCA.

Are you suggesting NO theme? I'm confused what you're getting at here.
Read the posts. Get rid of TTZ and leave the haunted Hollywood hotel theme.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Seems like neither ToT or GGMB are particularly iconic Disney attractions.

One is based on an ancient non-Disney TV show from the Kennedy administration that practically nobody under the age of 40 cares much about. It only avoids plot holes because it's set in a paranormal universe where normal logic and science don't apply. The other is a transparent attempt to stretch and jimmy a coherent story onto an already-built ride, promoting a movie series that is already started to stretch the limits of its shelf life.

At the end of the day, both of them are just fancier techno versions of your garden variety drop ride at Six Flags.

IMO, you're underselling both IPs.
 

TROR

Well-Known Member
Cordcutters and all the streaming services that offer network TV broadcasts, and all the cable companies would beg to differ.
Look at Netflix’s, Disney+’s, or HBO’s original series; they’re all higher quality than network television. CBS’s new Twilight Zone is good network television, but nothing more.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Look at Netflix’s, Disney+’s, or HBO’s original series; they’re all higher quality than network television.
I'm not saying they're not. Your statement was "Nobody wants to pay for network television". I'm just stating that is not true, as there are plenty of people that pay for network television through many of the various streaming services and plenty still pay for it through cable. Very few people still have rabbit ears on their TVs and watch network TV for free.
 

truecoat

Well-Known Member
From the 30's. To help set the mood in the queue. Each song carefully hand picked and edited to sound the way it did.

M:BO says "oh hey hit me with your best shot was popular lets use that on-ride hur dur maybe some Jackson 5 too"

It was themed to the type of music in the movie which played a big part at times.
 

alias8703

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It sucks.

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