Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout announced for Disney California Adventure

[mickEblu]

All kidding aside, my reaction to this is Yuck! It looks awful. It is almost as gross as Joe's ear.

Seriously, up until a few years ago CMs couldn't have facial hair but this guy can have that ear? Lol

 

[Mouse3268]

The more I ponder this decision, the more upset I become.

What in the absolute HELL does Guardians have to do with Hollywood? I'm looking at the concept art and it looks so out of place. It almost looks Tomorrowland-ish.

So sick of these IPs taking over prime estate and other attractions. Hollywood Land has so much potential to be something great to experience, and what ****es me off even more is Hollywood is under and hour away, and yet we're left with the load of CRAP we have now. The source is right there and yet we still have crap. And now instead of taking the time to improve the land, instead we get more IP-based attractions.

Screw you, Iger. SCREW. YOU.

I think we all know that Hollywood land isn't going to survive this decade. Say hello to Marvel World, which sounds good to me.

 

[Old Mouseketeer]

Since I have little to no emotional attachment to DCA, despite the fact I grew up with the park, this doesn't anger and bother me as much as SWL in Disneyland (that's FAR worse). I have to admit it does sound cool. In saying this, Iger's obsession with putting IP-based attractions in the parks cannot be denied, and it has gotten completely out of hand. Hollywood Land is a complete mess as it is now, and I guess a Marvel-themed area will at least be more cohesive as a land, I'm assuming (we'll have to wait and see), but what exactly does Marvel have to do with California? No, the fact that Marvel is headquartered in California is not a legitimate excuse. And how will other Hollywood Land attractions fit in?

The IP disease continues to spread throughout the parks.

"IP disease"? Seriously?

What was the Sleeping Beauty walk-through that was shoe-horned into the attic at Disneyland? Hell, "Sleeping Beauty Castle" was built before the movie came out!

What about the Mouseketeers performing in the Disneyland opening special three months before their TV show premiered?

And then there was the set from Babes In Toyland moved/recreated in the Opera House and later re-purposed as the MMC HQ to support reruns of the then defunct MMC TV show.

Walt always preached Synergy: movies/TV/Disneyland/merchandise. Fantasyland was almost all IP. Frontierland had Davy Crockett. And later, Swiss Family Robinson? Matterhorn? Mike Fink Keel Boats? All Disney IPs (at least in those versions). Jungle Cruise was "borrowed" from The African Queen. And then there's space flight, pirates, and ghosts. Hardly original in an amusement park, but elevated to a level beyond anything ever imagined.

So now Disney has spent billions of dollars to acquire Lucasfilm and Marvel, and merged with Pixar (also a multi-billion-dollar deal) and you expect the company to just sit on those assets? I have no problem with critiquing bad execution of using those IP assets in the parks. Hell, I encourage it. But let's not be too precious about this.

Twilight Zone was a rented IP. It had nothing to do with Disney. No argument, the Florida version is superior, and TDS surpasses DCA and DLP using the same footprint/structure while losing the TZ theme. So can we stop all the "sky is falling" hand-wringing and recognize that Disney has some underutilized IPs that have audience appeal and they need to get their investment back? IMNSHO, this is far less egregious than Maelstrom/Frozen. Hell, I wish they would add Ratatouille to France at EPCOT, and Alice (either version) to UK.

Let's not pretend that there is any argument whatsoever that Disney can afford to ignore the IPs they own and, instead, focus on what are the most effective and creatively consistent ways to do utilize them. Sure, we all wish the DL third gate could have been Star Wars/Marvel. But that boat has sailed.

And can we PLEEEZE just drop the purity tests for DCA. Putting a California-centric theme park IN CALIFORNIA was dead on arrival from the start. Let's remember the original justification for planning Western River Expedition at WDW instead of Pirates. Since 75% of US visitors to Disneyland came from West of the Mississippi, it was posited that New Orleans Square and Pirates would not be a big draw because they were not exotic enough to East coast visitors to WDW. Remember, NOS was planned in the early years of the jet age. Then Card Walker freaked at the guest response to no pirates at WDW and rushed through Pirates-lite and we all know how that turned out. Disney (post-Pressler) has done its best to turn a sow's ear into a silk purse with DCA and I give them credit for biting the bullet and committing major bucks to do it. DCA 2.0 has exceeded my expectations. No, Carsland isn't IN California, but it has a backstory of COMING to CA that I can stomach, especially considering that Route 66 is part of my family's history. So movie-related IP is not that big a stretch for me, depending on quality results. YMMV.

 

[mickEblu]

Can we all just Agree on one thing? That the name Mission Breakout absolutely sucks.

And then there is Star Wars Experience. Man they re really on a roll.

On another note, they really want to go with this ugly looking warehouse/ power plant as the tallest structure that can be seen from just about anywhere in the park?

 

[Old Mouseketeer]

I haven't ridden the new ride yet, but yeah the cgi looks lame. They need to build a third theater to house a updated version of Soarin over California. I don't care to fly over China and see a kid peeing in the bushes.

I rode it for the first time last week (twice) and I liked it. SOC had more nuance and some lovely softer musical themes. But SOTW is one WOW after another. I like both. I hope they will eventually bring back SOC to one theater after SOTW has reached its peak.

I have no problem with the CGI. A lot of it was very well done. I'm used to it in mainstream movies, so It was pretty easy for me.

P.S. I missed the kid peeing in the bushes.

 

[Suspirian]

The placement will be rather odd since (if micechat is correct) the attraction and the marvel subland wont be connected? Still not feeling tis overlay, at least the Captain America ride will make some sense in Hollywoodland

 

[Suspirian]

Interested in seeing what they'll change the bottom location to now

 

[Californian Elitist]

"IP disease"? Seriously?

What was the Sleeping Beauty walk-through that was shoe-horned into the attic at Disneyland? Hell, "Sleeping Beauty Castle" was built before the movie came out!

What about the Mouseketeers performing in the Disneyland opening special three months before their TV show premiered?

And then there was the set from Babes In Toyland moved/recreated in the Opera House and later re-purposed as the MMC HQ to support reruns of the then defunct MMC TV show.

Walt always preached Synergy: movies/TV/Disneyland/merchandise. Fantasyland was almost all IP. Frontierland had Davy Crockett. And later, Swiss Family Robinson? Matterhorn? Mike Fink Keel Boats? All Disney IPs (at least in those versions). Jungle Cruise was "borrowed" from The African Queen. And then there's space flight, pirates, and ghosts. Hardly original in an amusement park, but elevated to a level beyond anything ever imagined.

So now Disney has spent billions of dollars to acquire Lucasfilm and Marvel, and merged with Pixar (also a multi-billion-dollar deal) and you expect the company to just sit on those assets? I have no problem with critiquing bad execution of using those IP assets in the parks. Hell, I encourage it. But let's not be too precious about this.

Twilight Zone was a rented IP. It had nothing to do with Disney. No argument, the Florida version is superior, and TDS surpasses DCA and DLP using the same footprint/structure while losing the TZ theme. So can we stop all the "sky is falling" hand-wringing and recognize that Disney has some underutilized IPs that have audience appeal and they need to get their investment back? IMNSHO, this is far less egregious than Maelstrom/Frozen. Hell, I wish they would add Ratatouille to France at EPCOT, and Alice (either version) to UK.

Let's not pretend that there is any argument whatsoever that Disney can afford to ignore the IPs they own and, instead, focus on what are the most effective and creatively consistent ways to do utilize them. Sure, we all wish the DL third gate could have been Star Wars/Marvel. But that boat has sailed.

And can we PLEEEZE just drop the purity tests for DCA. Putting a California-centric theme park IN CALIFORNIA was dead on arrival from the start. Let's remember the original justification for planning Western River Expedition at WDW instead of Pirates. Since 75% of US visitors to Disneyland came from West of the Mississippi, it was posited that New Orleans Square and Pirates would not be a big draw because they were not exotic enough to East coast visitors to WDW. Remember, NOS was planned in the early years of the jet age. Then Card Walker freaked at the guest response to no pirates at WDW and rushed through Pirates-lite and we all know how that turned out. Disney (post-Pressler) has done its best to turn a sow's ear into a silk purse with DCA and I give them credit for biting the bullet and committing major bucks to do it. DCA 2.0 has exceeded my expectations. No, Carsland isn't IN California, but it has a backstory of COMING to CA that I can stomach, especially considering that Route 66 is part of my family's history. So movie-related IP is not that big a stretch for me, depending on quality results. YMMV.

Yes, SERIOUSLY.

I'm not dropping anything when it comes to the California theme of DCA. The park isn't very California-centric.

As I already stated in another thread, ToT's backstory was original. It may have been themed around the Twilight Zone, but everything else is original. Now it's going to be replaced with Guardians of the Galaxy, something not original and something that does NOT fit with the rest of the land. That's a problem, and if you don't see it, oh well.

I've talked to death about Disneyland and IP-based attractions in the park in other threads, specifically my anti-Star Wars thread, so you can search there if you're interested.

Yes, "disease" is the word I use and will continue to use. If you think I'm over exaggerating, that's your preorogative. I'm NOT going to stop expressing disappointment about all of the IP-based lands and re-themes going into the parks. I'm NOT going to stop talking about the lack of California in California Adventure. I'm NOT going to stop talking about how much I loathe the decision to put SWL in Disneyland. I'm NOT going to stop complaint about Iger. I'm NOT going to stop complaining about the lack of creativity.

If you have a problem with the statements I make, put me on ignore, as I'm NOT going to stop. I'll show you how to use the ignore option if you need me to. Just in case you do, first click on my name. Under my gender and age, you will find the 'Ignore' option highlighted in a light blue color. Click that and problem solved.

 

[Variable]

Yes, SERIOUSLY.

I'm not dropping anything when it comes to the California theme of DCA. The park isn't very California-centric.

As I already stated in another thread, ToT's backstory was original. It may have been themed around the Twilight Zone, but everything else is original. Now it's going to be replaced with Guardians of the Galaxy, something not original and something that does NOT fit with the rest of the land. That's a problem, and if you don't see it, oh well.

I've talked to death about Disneyland and IP-based attractions in the park in other threads, specifically my anti-Star Wars thread, so you can search there if you're interested.

Yes, "disease" is the word I use and will continue to use. If you think I'm over exaggerating, that's your preorogative. I'm NOT going to stop expressing disappointment about all of the IP-based lands and re-themes going into the parks. I'm NOT going to stop talking about the lack of California in California Adventure. I'm NOT going to stop talking about how much I loathe the decision to put SWL in Disneyland. I'm NOT going to stop complaint about Iger. I'm NOT going to stop complaining about the lack of creativity.

If you have a problem with the statements I make, put me on ignore, as I'm NOT going to stop. I'll show you how to use the ignore option if you need me to. Just in case you do, first click on my name. Under my gender and age, you will find the 'Ignore' option highlighted in a light blue color. Click that and problem solved.

So quick to encourage others to ignore you. You only want obliging sycophants to read your stuff. You are quite intolerant and dismissive. You can't handle dissenting views at all, and so quick to be offended.

 

[jbradway]

It looks like Doc Brown turned a 1930's hotel into a time machine. I don't have a problem with them putting Marvel in the park. I get that they have to do that. But this ride can be seen from just about everywhere in the park. I think you can pass off the current look with the entry plaza and Grizzly Peak airfield. But I just can't imagine seeing this Borg spaceship looking thing and having it dominate the skyline. They should have done a fresh ride. This seems to be all about rushing to get something Marvel into the park for a movie premiere.

 

[Variable]

It looks like Doc Brown turned a 1930's hotel into a time machine. I don't have a problem with them putting Marvel in the park. I get that they have to do that. But this ride can be seen from just about everywhere in the park. I think you can pass off the current look with the entry plaza and Grizzly Peak airfield. But I just can't imagine seeing this Borg spaceship looking thing and having it dominate the skyline. They should have done a fresh ride. This seems to be all about rushing to get something Marvel into the park for a movie premiere.

Lol. Doc Brown. Yeah it's kind of wild looking.

 

[Old Mouseketeer]

So quick to encourage others to ignore you. You only want obliging sycophants to read your stuff. You are quite intolerant and dismissive. You can't handle dissenting views at all, and so quick to be offended.

Not to mention completely unresponsive to any of the arguments I made. Yet I'm supposed to research raven24's archive to understand what she really means?

Uhhh, no. Here, have a big, hot, steaming cup of "nope". Hit the road, Jack....

Oh, and one more thing for raven24. I'll be happy to ignore you. With the likely exception of any time you exhibit this level of suckitude.

 

[Variable]

She's young. We must have hope.

Let's call Obi Wan!

 

[Californian Elitist]

Not to mention completely unresponsive to any of the arguments I made. Yet I'm supposed to research raven24's archive to understand what she really means?

Uhhh, no. Here, have a big, hot, steaming cup of "nope". Hit the road, Jack....

Oh, and one more thing for raven24. I'll be happy to ignore you. With the likely exception of any time you exhibit this level of suckitude.

You didn't even bother to quote me.

Did I say you were "supposed" to look through my history? I clearly said if you're interested.

I've never had a problem with you, but since you want to exhibit "rudeitude," I don't have a problem with not running into you again. Take the speck out of your own eye.

Bye.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Back to the topic at hand, does anyone have a clue in terms of when we'll begin to see other Marvel attractions?

 

[Californian Elitist]

Can we all just Agree on one thing? That the name Mission Breakout absolutely sucks.

And then there is Star Wars Experience. Man they re really on a roll.

On another note, they really want to go with this ugly looking warehouse/ power plant as the tallest structure that can be seen from just about anywhere in the park?

"Star Wars Experience" is worse than "Mission Breakout," in my opinion, but yeah, they both are weak.

 

[Variable]

You didn't even bother to quote me.

Geeze woman, how offended can you get? The conversation is out there for all to read.

 

[flynnibus]

Six months.... Disney barely does dust, carpet, and new paint in six months. The time table more than anything was the downer for me. I can't see them doing very much at all in the actual ride portion.

 

[Variable]

"Star Wars Experience" is worse than "Mission Breakout," in my opinion, but yeah, they both are weak.

The whole 'experience' this and that drives me nuts.

Look! A vacant lot! Let's go experience it!!

 

[Curious Constance]

I'm not one to judge someone for their own person style choices, but how can Joe stand that dang ear? I bet it gets caught on things all the time. Eventually it's gotta rip doesn't it?