I disagree. Irreverent is about the general attitude of the characters that cause them to hate, but they are made to care just as well. Star Lord loves his 60-70s music, a classic, and David Hassehoff, a classic. They all care about something. Take it for what it’s worth.
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Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout announced for Disney California Adventure
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mickEblu
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I Explained my opinion in a little more depth in the post above.
TROR
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Think about what you're saying here. Marvel is pumping out a new movie every few months. There's so much content being produced by Marvel alone, audiences forget what they just put out. Remember when Iron Man (2008) completely reshaped how film franchises are made? How many people talk about that movie anymore compared to The Dark Knight, released the same year? What about The Avengers (2012), one of the biggest and anticipated blockbusters in the last decade that finally delivered on what had been building up since Iron Man? Who cares anymore? It's been replaced by Guardians of the Galaxy and Spider-Man. How long until these franchises are then replaced by something else Marvel puts out? Really, if you asked me in 2012 if they should make an Avengers ride, I'd 100% would have said yes. Ask me now and I'll ask you which characters will you put in it? By the time it's constructed, who's to say they haven't already been replaced with the next big hit?
Sorry @TROR, this rehashes a lot of what you just posted but I was typing as you posted.
Also with worlds and pushed production times you eventually have the potential of saturation and overkill. As much as fans like to think that is what hurt much of Last Jedi, much of it is the fact that it was the third Star Wars film(yes I know Rouge One is a spin off) in the last three years. But still three major theatrical Star Wars releases within three years. Avengers Infinity War will be the Third film to feature Guardians of the Galaxy characters within Four Years. In Four Years they are in 3 Theatrical Releases and have a Theme Park Ride overlay. Most trilogies or further expand closer to a decade. The few exceptions to that are not even really remembered today. My favorite Trilogy is Back to The Future and even that lasted five years and is not really remembered as a merch hit enough to keep the amazing ride that it was around at Universal.
Only time will tell but I don't think Guardians is even in the same league as Back to The Future. No accounting for taste though.
Also with worlds and pushed production times you eventually have the potential of saturation and overkill. As much as fans like to think that is what hurt much of Last Jedi, much of it is the fact that it was the third Star Wars film(yes I know Rouge One is a spin off) in the last three years. But still three major theatrical Star Wars releases within three years. Avengers Infinity War will be the Third film to feature Guardians of the Galaxy characters within Four Years. In Four Years they are in 3 Theatrical Releases and have a Theme Park Ride overlay. Most trilogies or further expand closer to a decade. The few exceptions to that are not even really remembered today. My favorite Trilogy is Back to The Future and even that lasted five years and is not really remembered as a merch hit enough to keep the amazing ride that it was around at Universal.
Only time will tell but I don't think Guardians is even in the same league as Back to The Future. No accounting for taste though.
I guess it depends on how soon any Marvel movie will be rebooted.
mickEblu
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Exactly. Something can’t be a classic when the same movie give or take a few characters is coming out 3-4 times a year. And this is why screens are good thing for Disney- they can easily swap out GOTG for the next popular IP.
BrianLo
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I don't know about timeless or classic - but how about evergreen and still relevant 30 years from now?
My most direct comp would be Ninja Turtles. I don't know if those movies are really 'classics', but there is a certain fondness for them. GoTG will go away for years surely, but they'll come back eventually. Same with Ninja Turtles... which is about as ridiculous a concept on paper.
The only difference may be that the GoTG revival is actually good.
GotG may be evergreen because the plan is to change up their group members, just like in the comics.
The same will be happening for the MCU Avengers. Out goes Captain America and Iron Man and in comes Ant-Man, Black Panther, Capt. Marvel, Spider-Man, Doctor Strange.
mickEblu
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Hmmm well the live action movies are definitely not classics. I was a huge TMNT fan when I was a kid but the movies but they didn’t age well. From what I remember the cartoons were quality. They might still be relevant in 30 years but I doubt that too. Ninja turtles were unique. They are overdoing it with these Marvel movies and although GOTG does stand out a bit from some of the other Marvel IP it’s hard for me to believe people won’t be fatigued by the IP by then.
BrianLo
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I think many people thought it would be hard to believe people would not be fatigued of Marvel by now - 10 years out from Iron Man. Yet, likely the weakest of the bunch - Thor - suddenly has fanbois chomping at the bit for more. Logan just brought esteem to a 17 year old contiguous franchise. Then we launch another new franchise in Black Panther that is about to explode. I won't mention that May movie.
That's the sheer beauty of the Marvel brand as a whole. I don't consider the entire bucket of Marvel films a single IP. If they continue the current mould and 'retire' each sub-unit after 3ish solo outings, it's enough that the public seemingly is not tiring.
It's kind of hard to imagine the cycle is just going to end now. I see Feige having no problem keeping the machine humming for another ten years. Especially with the Fox injection.
TROR
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Isn't that a problem in itself, though? It goes back to what I said in my last post, in 2012 I would've 100% said they should build an Avengers attraction, but now if they were going to, which characters do you include? You'll have to change them sooner or later on the attraction, and if you don't, it fades from relevancy. It needs constant change thus making it not evergreen as far as attractions go. You can never touch Indiana Jones Adventure, or Pirates of the Caribbean, or Splash Mountain and they'll last for decades on their own. If you have Chris Pratt on Mission Breakout but he's no longer in the Guardians films, no one will want to ride the attraction.
Curious Constance
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Ugh, when did attractions start needing actors and actresses to be considered good or relevant?
Curious Constance
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You know when animated movies use too many buzz words or put too many references to pop culture in them, and then when you see the movie years later the whole thing seems dated? That's what's happening to Disney parks.
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Disney Irish
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This from the same person that if I'm not mistaken don't like AAs and wants live actors in the attractions....
I'm joking with you of course.
Curious Constance
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No, no that's live actors in the kissing booths.This from the same person that if I'm not mistaken don't like AAs and wants live actors in the attractions....
I'm joking with you of course.
Disney Irish
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Only if there is even numbers of male to female ratio of live actors.
Curious Constance
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Not preferable, but if that's what it takes I'm willing to concede.
Kram Sacul
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- In the Parks
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When the attractions are basically glorified movies with moving seats. If Mission: BO wasn't shoehorned into a drop ride it surely would've had 3-D glasses.
Hatbox Ghostbuster
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Classic example of this was the Epcot attraction/show Kitchen Kabaret.
It started as a totally unique show featuring original songs all about healthy eating and nutrition...
Then after a 12 year run, in an attempt to make the show "fresh", they replaced most of the animatronics for awful new versions and swapped out the original songs for covers of popular 80's tunes.
Now tell me, what is going to date an attraction faster? Original songs, or covers from that time period??
Needless to say, the new version didn't last as long.
TROR
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New Specimens Join the Collection at Guardians of the Galaxy – Mission: BREAKOUT! at Disney California Adventure Park
Looks like this attraction's numbers are dwindling so they need to add new things to bring people back in.
That said, these alien things are really cute and I would love them in Tomorrowland but since they're in the Hollywood Tower Hotel it doesn't really make a lot of sense.
Looks like this attraction's numbers are dwindling so they need to add new things to bring people back in.
That said, these alien things are really cute and I would love them in Tomorrowland but since they're in the Hollywood Tower Hotel it doesn't really make a lot of sense.