Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout announced for Disney California Adventure

[Curious Constance]

Thanks! If you ever see a guy wearing that shirt in the parks... that would be me.

Of course only with @Earl Sweatpants 's blessing.

Of course, my 12 year old daughter is always going to refer to it as TOT, and the same could be said for a lot of 5 year old girls too. Soooooooo

 

[Californian Elitist]

Except for Tomorrowland right? It's kind of interesting to think about. If I had any say, I would say about 80% of the park should be untouchable.

Yeah, Tomorrowland is the main land that should be getting the most updates, but we all know that's probably never going to happen, not correctly at least.

 

[Californian Elitist]

This got me thinking- what should actually never be removed? I think the big landmarks- the castle, Matterhorn, Splash Mountain, Space Mountain, Columbia, Mark Twain, the Main Street facades, and the Haunted Mansion facade should never have their exteriors altered. The interiors should be updated faithfully as needed. The Jungle Cruise should also never be altered to include an IP or something. We don't need a "Jungle Book Cruise".

I'd scrap Toontown, half of the autopia, the Submarine voyage, gut all of the Tomorrowland buildings (minus Space Mountain) and build new attractions that are unique.

My biggest fear is that today's Disney is incapable of building "classics" and that most of what has been built in the last 25 years won't be here 25 years from now. I mean, the ToT was as "classic" as you could get at DCA, and they decided to paint it gold and alter its story (Space Mountain '98 anyone?)

Disney most likely believes they can mess with DCA in ways they can't with DL. I highly doubt attractions like Pirates, Mansion, Matterhorn, Jungle Cruise, etc. will ever be on the chopping block because Disney knows the fans just won't have it and will come for them should they ever attempt to get rid of them. You never know though. They once considered replacing Lincoln with the Muppets. *mega facepalm*

 

[sunsetblvd26]

To each their own. I myself, along with quite a few friends, prefer the DCA Tower over the cornier and slower original.

How is DHS's either of those things?

 

[Phroobar]

How is DHS's either of those things?

Well the 5th dimensional room is pretty corny.

 

[GrizzlyAdams]

I think a lot of classic attractions need to be 2.0'd. The Matterhorn should be torn down and rebuilt. Jungle Cruise could also be overhauled, etc.

I don't think Disney executives care as much as we would hope in terms of fan's devotion to classic attractions.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I think a lot of classic attractions need to be 2.0'd. The Matterhorn should be torn down and rebuilt. Jungle Cruise could also be overhauled, etc.

I don't think Disney executives care as much as we would hope in terms of fan's devotion to classic attractions.

Why should the Matterhorn be torn down, and what exactly do you mean when you say Jungle Cruise should be "overhauled?"

 

[Phroobar]

I think a lot of classic attractions need to be 2.0'd. The Matterhorn should be torn down and rebuilt. Jungle Cruise could also be overhauled, etc.

I don't think Disney executives care as much as we would hope in terms of fan's devotion to classic attractions.

Whatever.

 

[sunsetblvd26]

Well the 5th dimensional room is pretty corny.

To each their own, but personally (and honestly probably the general consensus) is that that scene is anything but corny. It's an incredibly cool effect and really builds up the excitement and fear of the drop.

 

[Stevek]

and what exactly do you mean when you say Jungle Cruise should be "overhauled?"

add a loop

 

[Phroobar]

To each their own, but personally (and honestly probably the general consensus) is that that scene is anything but corny. It's an incredibly cool effect and really builds up the excitement and fear of the drop.

It's a bunch of static props behind glass using a peppers ghost effect. Total cheese. The worst part is when the shaft doors open and a blast of hot air from outside hits you. I prefer the disappearing mirror trick.

 

[Professortango1]

How is DHS's either of those things?

Well, the pace IS slower, that's a fact as the acceleration between floors in DCA's is faster due to being in the actual drop tower. Also, the DCA version has more narration bridging scenes together where the WDW version has a lot more dead air.

Also, DCA's hallway scene ends with seeing the ghosts in the elevator waving goodbye to us as if we're going to die. They drop. Then their elevator drops, then we drop as a drop scare. Dark, fast, scary. The WDW version has a window transform into the black and white window from the TV show. It floats and breaks, then the doors quietly close on that nothing moment. You can definitely argue it's more related to the show, but the ending to the scene is WDW is clearly not as scary, lacks the physical scare of the DCA Tower, and it kind of peters out.

Then there's the 5th Dimension Room. Ugh. This scene could be so cool, but it's a bumpy exit from one shaft and a bumpy slow settling into the new shaft. It's as subtle and smooth as a clarinet player on Prom night. The imagery in the scene is plastic ghostly figures which remind me of those light up nativity figures, E=MC2 wobbling on fishing line (it should be floating mysteriously instead of swinging) and some really outdated projection screens of actors in a dummy car. It's cheese. I mean, it fits the original show more, once again, but it's definitely corny. I would love to see the room have the warehouse look cleared out and instead be an infinite starfield with the use of mirrors. A starry void we are floating through instead of the industrial storage area in the hotel. Have ghostly AA's appear in the void, ushering us to our doom.

The final scene could use re-working too as you land, you see a silent montage of TV show elements and then Rod Serling looking like he's going to say something before the doors close. It's so silent and awkward. Really weak note to go out on.

 

[Antaundra]

I think Zootopia would be a more likely candidate to replace Pooh and I don't think it would be a terrible idea.

 

[Phroobar]

I think Zootopia would be a more likely candidate to replace Pooh and I don't think it would be a terrible idea.

Zootopia deserves a bigger show building. It also doesn't fit in Critter Country. I would remove Rafiki's Planet Watch at DAK and turn it into Zootopia. They could replace the train with a monorail.

 

[Professortango1]

I think Zootopia would be a more likely candidate to replace Pooh and I don't think it would be a terrible idea.

I mean, yes it technically has a Country ran by Critters, but very different settings. Critter Country is basically the American Southern woods and swamps of yesterday and Zootopia is more bustling modern cities. Song of the South and Pooh are supposed to exist within our world, just an unseen fantastical part of our world. Zootopia is a fictional world like Cars or Robin Hood.

 

[GrizzlyAdams]

Why should the Matterhorn be torn down, and what exactly do you mean when you say Jungle Cruise should be "overhauled?"

The Matterhorn remains a fantastic idea, but is a 50 year old roller coaster that could be a 100 times better if rebuilt. The Jungle Cruise is also a fantastic idea, but is no longer a thrilling adventure ride as originally intended. It's just a kitsch humor ride that could also be a better. I wouldn't mind it re-themed to the Jungle Book either, but I know people who can't handle change (even when it's an improvement) would find that sacrilegious.

 

[Professortango1]

Zootopia deserves a bigger show building. It also doesn't fit in Critter Country. I would remove Rafiki's Planet Watch at DAK and turn it into Zootopia. They could replace the train with a monorail.

Rafiki's Planet Watch also houses the care areas and is located backstage really. You wouldn't be able to turn this into a darkride or land. They could theme the edutainment aspects to Zootopia rather than Lion King, but the layout and use is kind of locked in for the time being.

Maybe they should make Zootopia the new land for DHS. Star Wars Land for Adventure, Toy Story Land for cute, Muppets Courtyard for no reason, and Zootopia for quirky family-friendly adventure.

 

[Phroobar]

Rafiki's Planet Watch also houses the care areas and is located backstage really. You wouldn't be able to turn this into a darkride or land. They could theme the edutainment aspects to Zootopia rather than Lion King, but the layout and use is kind of locked in for the time being.

Maybe they should make Zootopia the new land for DHS. Star Wars Land for Adventure, Toy Story Land for cute, Muppets Courtyard for no reason, and Zootopia for quirky family-friendly adventure.

That park is big enough that the care facilities could go anywhere. There needs to be a better reason to take that train just to see a baby lion. Currently it feels real cheap and has been done better in other zoos. A Zootopia land would be a good reason to go out there.

 

[Antaundra]

My post was supposed to be in "reply" to mickEblu who suggested Disney suits would want Ant Man to replace Pooh. I agree Critter Country isn't an ideal fit for Zootopia and that a Zootopia ride deserves a bigger show building (and better ride system). But if Chapek and Iger wanted to shoe horn another IP back there Zootopia would be the best choice and could potentially be an improvement.

 

[Rich T]

That park is big enough that the care facilities could go anywhere. There needs to be a better reason to take that train just to see a baby lion. Currently it feels real cheap and has been done better in other zoos. A Zootopia land would be a good reason to go out there.

Zootopia in Animal Kingdom would be kind of uncomfortable, seeing as how all mammals on Zootopia's alternate Earth are intelligent, civilized beings. The juxtapostion of clothed, intelligent... Oh, cripes, I'm over-analyzing this, but y'know what I mean. It's a style thing--the Zootopia characters aren't "toony" like Mickey & crew.