News Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot

Rich Brownn

Rich Brownn

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TikibirdLand said:
Had to go look it up on youtube. looks like a really fun ride, very imaginative! Are you talking about the dream sequence? Seems that could still be done with wire-guided or even tracks. But, it does look easier with trackless. At least they're using in an interesting way.
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I'm not sure how you could have six vehicles at a time dancing around each other, with 3 leaving and 3 arriving at the same time, with a track. It would certainly involve a lot of switches going off constantly which sounds like a maintenance nightmare. To me, this was the best example of how trackless should be used.
 
RSoxNo1

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UNCgolf said:
As I said above, though, the wait time is a major factor in GSAT scores. I bet the GSAT scores for NRJ would be significantly higher if people were only waiting 20 minutes to ride it instead of an hour or longer. That's true for every ride to an extent, but NRJ is a C ticket with D or sometimes E ticket wait times. That makes it underwhelming almost by default for average guests.

Physical thrill also has a major effect on GSATs. Roller coasters almost always have high guest satisfaction ratings, but a ride like Slinky Dog Dash (or Primeval Whirl before it closed) is close to being an off the shelf coaster that you can ride all over the country. Disney could probably drop in 5 off the shelf coasters around the parks and they'd all get good GSAT scores, but that wouldn't mean they were great attractions. Even Kali River Rapids has pretty good scores on Touring Plans.

I don't think it makes any sense to argue they're better attractions in terms of overall design than a ride like NRJ. Of course ride design is subjective too, but that was the basis of my argument -- and I didn't expect many people to agree regardless.
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This is largely the reason why TSMM got a ton of hate on boards like this.

So much of this is on Disney though. Na'vi River Journey was known internally as a C Ticket and it's capacity reflected that. The greater issue for me is that Flight of Passage was underbuilt from a capacity standpoint pushing both attractions to extreme wait times relative to what they are. As good as Flight of Passage is, it's wait time vs quality is out of whack. We knew years before the attraction opened that its capacity would be comparable to Soarin' assuming similar cycle times. We made assumptions, they had knowledge and still messed up. They also made the announcement to expand Soarin' between announcement and opening of FoP which further cements the lack of foresight.
 
RSoxNo1

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rioriz said:
Can we all agree that this iteration of Guardians needs to have Nebula in it to be qualified as Great?!?!?!

Nebula is by far the best addition to the team since Vol. 2 and she is a scene stealer.

Also telling that Rocket is front and center on the poster not Quill....

Wierd that Mantis isn't featured here while she is on the the DL version....different timelines?
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It's an interesting perspective. IMO, especially in the original Guardians that the casting for Nebula was very poor. But the character and Karen Gillan's performance made a significant leap forward in future appearances.
 
lazyboy97o

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embracejg said:
So is there any greater chance of this getting a preview/soft opening period because it's a roller coaster? VelociCoaster at Universal was open consistently for more than a month ahead of its "official" opening date.
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Being a roller coaster is irrelevant. There are no standards. Hagrid’s Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure did not have a long, widely available soft opening like Velocicoaster.
 
No Name

No Name

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RSoxNo1 said:
This is largely the reason why TSMM got a ton of hate on boards like this.

So much of this is on Disney though. Na'vi River Journey was known internally as a C Ticket and it's capacity reflected that. The greater issue for me is that Flight of Passage was underbuilt from a capacity standpoint pushing both attractions to extreme wait times relative to what they are. As good as Flight of Passage is, it's wait time vs quality is out of whack. We knew years before the attraction opened that its capacity would be comparable to Soarin' assuming similar cycle times. We made assumptions, they had knowledge and still messed up. They also made the announcement to expand Soarin' between announcement and opening of FoP which further cements the lack of foresight.
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Well you reminded me… TSMM had incredibly high GSATs back when the wait time was regularly two hours, which goes against the theory that NRJ would have higher GSATs if the wait time were lower, does it not?
 
WDWFREAK53

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Just me being nitpicky... Does anybody else feel as if that "gate entrance" looks odd being that far away from the building? It just seems like it would work better if it was attached or used as the main entrance to the building.
 
lazyboy97o

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WDWFREAK53 said:
Just me being nitpicky... Does anybody else feel as if that "gate entrance" looks odd being that far away from the building? It just seems like it would work better if it was attached or used as the main entrance to the building.
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Welcome to the world of ongoing bizarre design decisions at Walt Disney World. The entrance is there because the queues do not use the same entrance, so they had to add this point where they could be forced together.
 
Tegan pilots a chicken

Tegan pilots a chicken

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WDWFREAK53 said:
Just me being nitpicky... Does anybody else feel as if that "gate entrance" looks odd being that far away from the building? It just seems like it would work better if it was attached or used as the main entrance to the building.
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I actually like it 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️
Idk it feels,….dynamic? That might not be the word I’m searching for. But I find negative space to be interesting. No idea if that’s what Imagineers were going for but that’s what I got out of it.
 
WDWFREAK53

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lazyboy97o said:
Welcome to the world of ongoing bizarre design decisions at Walt Disney World. The entrance is there because the queues do not use the same entrance, so they had to add this point where they could be forced together.
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But if they were redoing the front of the building anyways, couldn't they have just made a new main entrance and split the line inside? Or buildout the space that's currently outdoors? Like I said, it's small but it just seems like an afterthought of a structure.

EDIT: Actually, the early concept art looks like that's what they planned on doing.
 

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lazyboy97o

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WDWFREAK53 said:
But if they were redoing the front of the building anyways, couldn't they have just made a new main entrance and split the line inside? Or buildout the space that's currently outdoors? Like I said, it's small but it just seems like an afterthought of a structure.
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Yes, they could have done any number of things. These sort of odd, unnecessary design decisions are becoming commonplace all over Walt Disney World.
 
Patcheslee

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WDWFREAK53 said:
Just me being nitpicky... Does anybody else feel as if that "gate entrance" looks odd being that far away from the building? It just seems like it would work better if it was attached or used as the main entrance to the building.
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I'm wondering how well CMs will be covered during the rain. With this being indoor, barring a power failure, it will be able to continue running.
 
MagicHappens1971

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ToTBellHop said:
While I don’t know whom, this is being prepared to welcome riders in April. Could just be CMs and their families, however.

Reliability seems pretty good (for a new ride—so, not RotR).
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Maybe like one - two weeks of Cast previews early - mid April and one -two weeks of AP previews late April - early May?
 

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