I don’t even know what number the last one was.
I think it was Chapter 7 or 13.
Sorry my mistake, that's Johnny Depp's current financial situation.
I don’t even know what number the last one was.
I think a lot of folks underestimate the intelligence and attention spans of the population. Sure, there are those who have the attention spans of goldfish and the intelligence to match, but why should they be the target audience?No one said that it's incapable of being thoughtful and inspirational.
What is question is whether people nowadays would like that in a theme park anymore?
Do they have the attention span for it?
Would they come back for it again?
Is it worth it for a theme park to go that route anymore?
Disney can't please everybody at the end of the day as some people like it and some don't care for it. I always look at projects from a neutral standpoint and judge accordingly because there are many perspectives to look at things.i appreciate your optimism, but that's coming from a perspective unaware of the actual cost and timeline of the project
- granted, for many reasons, that shouldn't matter - but it actually does... in the deep dark recesses of conference rooms
i also respect your favorable view of the theming in tsl, but i must say......
Entertainment that is not entertaining is not much in the way of entertainment. It’s a contradiction. Entertainment is supposed to entertain people. Saying people won’t be entertained by something thoughtful and inspiring is just a roundabout way of trying to dismiss the power of the medium without saying it directly.No one said that it's incapable of being thoughtful and inspirational.
What is question is whether people nowadays would like that in a theme park anymore?
Do they have the attention span for it?
Would they come back for it again?
Is it worth it for a theme park to go that route anymore?
Test Track and Mission: Space...... Am I missing something? Are you one of those people that considers Soarin' a thrill ride?
Also, the past doesn't count if they don't exist anymore. (Which is a shame. I firmly believe Sum of all thrills should be its own big attraction that could replace an ENTIRE Innoventions show building)
How well did that last POTC movie do? Compared to when it was in its prime.
I think a lot of folks underestimate the intelligence and attention spans of the population. Sure, there are those who have the attention spans of goldfish and the intelligence to match, but why should they be the target audience?
Okay... And the first Pirates movie came out in 2003. I'd say it's held its popularity up pretty well.
To answer your question... Lowest grossing Pirates film in the US, but the highest grossing entry for the franchise internationally. Critics hated it, general audience still enjoys it just like they do every Pirates film. Do with that information as you will. It's still making money. (I personally have never cared for Pirates movies since the very first film).
Also, bad comparison. Guardians is WWAAAAAY more popular that Pirates ever was when it came out. Holding a 91% critic rating on Rotten Tomatoes AND 92% audience rating. Its sequel? 83% critics and 88% audience. It is the 3rd highest grossing film in the Marvel cinematic universe. Its sequel was the 8th highest grossing film in 2017. Meanwhile Pirates started going downhill by its 3rd sequel.
Guardians isn't going anywhere. ESPECIALLY with its ties to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. At least, for a while. And after the series DOES end, like I said, the ride will still hold up for years since it's a thrill. (Think Mummy over at Universal Studios. And Universal LIKES to get rid of their classics!)
Honestly, that was a terrible comparison. You probably should have compared it to, say, Harry Potter. Which is like, an equally popular franchise and YEARS LATER IT STILL DRAWS IN PEOPLE. Marvel is Disney's gate to Universal's advantage of Harry Potter.
Many things at Disney that aren't Disneyconsidering avatar has nothing to do with disney and is merely a desperate movie tie-in absurdly thought to compete with potter...
there's absolutely no reason that couldn't be in a universal park
Sadly Alien and Oz aren’t "at Disney".Many things at Disney that aren't Disney
IJA, Star Tours, Twilight Zone, Muppets, Alien, Wizard of Oz, etc
As is Avatar once Fox goes throughIJA and Star Tours "are Disney" now.
I just don’t think ones in the “original model” — as were once in EPCOT — would work well today.
Don’t have time for a more fulsome response right now but I will later!additionally, feel free to knock uni and potter as you wish, but please be mindful of it's positive impact regarding twdc capex in orlando - another bad sign, btw
Many things at Disney that aren't Disney
IJA, Star Tours, Twilight Zone
As is Avatar once Fox goes through
It's simply a response to your previous point, which is completely irrelevant to anythingif that's where it matters to you
considering avatar has nothing to do with disney and is merely a desperate movie tie-in absurdly thought to compete with potter...
there's absolutely no reason that couldn't be in a universal park
which is completely irrelevant to anything
Exactly people are always so quick to point fingers at WDI as if they just hired themselves and don't have managers and people above them who make certain decisions. If people working in certain fields don't have the experience they need...then expect the products to be less than stellar.Okay, let's talk about this for a second because I think we all agree with the meat of this post but I don't really agree with the plate that it's served on.
Imagineering is not "lazy." Imagineering has just... changed. Gone are 30+ year olds who are established in the field and ready/willing to push the envelope. Those guys would get kicked to the curb in two seconds from todays WDI. WDI is now a lot of people just starting out in their twenties who are just trying to not be fired (the turn over rate at WDI is HUGE) by their higher ups. WDI are told to create what they create. They are not allowed to create organically anymore, they are only allowed to "make what they're told." If you want to find the REAL problem, go to the source.
Okay, let's talk about this for a second because I think we all agree with the meat of this post but I don't really agree with the plate that it's served on.
Imagineering is not "lazy." Imagineering has just... changed. Gone are 30+ year olds who are established in the field and ready/willing to push the envelope. Those guys would get kicked to the curb in two seconds from todays WDI. WDI is now a lot of people just starting out in their twenties who are just trying to not be fired (the turn over rate at WDI is HUGE) by their higher ups. WDI are told to create what they create. They are not allowed to create organically anymore, they are only allowed to "make what they're told." If you want to find the REAL problem, go to the source.
Had a friend who worked for WDI for about a year recently. She said it was really miserable overall- crazy hours and unreasonable deadlines, and the work she was assigned to do wasn't particularly interesting.Why is the turnover rate at WDI so high? It's interesting because I feel like we sometimes get two different images of WDI, sometimes its painted as this aloof organization out of touch with the needs of the resorts and inventing exciting new concepts and technologies that people then have trouble finding practical applications for.
On the other hand descriptions like these paint it as a cutthroat start-up culture, where people are just struggling to stay afloat and willingly pumping out whatever is asked in the hopes they can keep their job another month.
I have no idea which it is or if its a combination of both or neither, its just interesting.
Had a friend who worked for WDI for about a year recently. She said it was really miserable overall- crazy hours and unreasonable deadlines, and the work she was assigned to do wasn't particularly interesting.
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