montyz81
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News Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot
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trainplane3
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Only 10 pounds? If we're going to bring something down, I want everyone within the entire WDW property to feel the boom.
So...is that dead then? Or moved to the parking lot?
One of the Epcot hotel proposals.
BrianLo
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This project is going vertical 6 months ahead of Galaxy's Edge from a projected vertical to opening perspective.
Not discounting the fact that its queue structure and facade are pre-completed, the entire ride is being manufactured off site and will be plunked down into place. Galaxy's Edge (seemingly) includes waaayyyy more rock work. Plus the budget for this thing is gigantic.
A part of me disbelieves the timeframe but the Parks blog reiterated what Martin has said all along.
What am I missing? Presumably that they didn't go the unthemed box route. Or there is some 100 foot AA no one is talking about.
Not discounting the fact that its queue structure and facade are pre-completed, the entire ride is being manufactured off site and will be plunked down into place. Galaxy's Edge (seemingly) includes waaayyyy more rock work. Plus the budget for this thing is gigantic.
A part of me disbelieves the timeframe but the Parks blog reiterated what Martin has said all along.
What am I missing? Presumably that they didn't go the unthemed box route. Or there is some 100 foot AA no one is talking about.
I believe the ride system is still being worked on. Also, the video work is waiting on the next Guardians' movie production timeline.
RSoxNo1
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Plus to get to that budget they need to line the walls with iPhone XII's and they haven't been invented yet.
Coaster Lover
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I stand corrected! I was trying to grasp what you ment about the motion base track and stumbled upon this article which describes it nicely:
https://www.coaster101.com/2014/07/22/escape-gringotts-details/
That seems to be some pretty cool tech! I assume by "track movement" you just mean physical movement of the coaster along the track as opposed to the motion based track movement used in Gringots, correct? If so, I could imagine a situation where the car yawed 90 degrees from the direction of forward motion while the track tilted 90 degrees (or close to it) to generate a circumstance where you were basically on your back looking up at the ceiling while the train moved forward slowly.
Coaster Lover
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Indeed, this person has been chronicling the work at the Vekoma plant and it looks like they have a lot to still work out:
https://svhas2004.wixsite.com/vekoma
The same person who generated that page created a crude (but useful) video to demonstrate how the rotation of the cars could be utilized...
The Empress Lilly
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The EPCOT FW pavilions aren't random futurist architectural style at all. No more than the buildings in Hollywood are random 20th century architecture, or the buildings in WS random old stuff.
There is, or are, thought behind the looks and organisation of the FW pavilions. Unfortunately, this has been severely compromised, to the point where modern guests could be forgiven for thinking FW is a random collection of randomly designed pavilions, or even of unthemeded wharehouse boxes left in plain sight (WoM).
* gets chalk, lowers whiteboard *
The Energy building is directed straight south, at an angle of 30 degrees. This is to maximise exposure to the sun's rays to collect the greatest amount of solar energy at this specific longitudinal point. Also, secondly and more practically, this tilted roof allows the spectator to see the solar cells. Thirdly, this creates a pavilion that is stark and imposing (expanding in height and width from the viewers vantage point within FW) while allowing for an intimate entrance at the front- an intimacy needed for the effect to envelop the rider in mirrors as he enters.
So the solar energy focus is the biggest driver of the pavilions dimension and direction. Near the tip the solar cells give way to mirrors, which reflect the sun's rays in the direction of the spectator, making him aware of the solar rays around him, finally immersing him in flowing thermal energy as he is enveloped in mirrors in the trench-like entrance. This program is not just aesthetical, it is essential that the ride vehicles are part powered by sunlight, the universe of energy the guest was made aware of outside is what now propels him on his journey inside. A journey which lifts him from the earth's swampy past forgotten in the fog of time (presented with actual fog, once) into the bright future, into space (lifting him up with a space shuttle launch), into the universe, a universe of energy (presented abstractly, with lasers and infinity mirrors, no substance, just force flowing around)
The east side of FW has geometric shapes, which drives the shape of the building. The circle of motion, the straight path, the square brilliantly disguising himself as a triangle that is energy. Also the sphere of communication, whose rounded, planetary shape also functions in the west side's natural shapes.
Motion and SSE are designed to be seen from anywhere. They have to be, if the spectator is meant to be aware of their round respectively spherical shape. The Land and Energy are designed to be seen from a specific vantage point. They have no backsides. Their placement and of the pathways ensure and work with this. The pavilions' shape drives the park organisation too, as this organisation in turn drives their placement.
In a more abstract sense, the Energy building is bold and stark, derives monumentalism from its form and few visual vantage points from where it can be seen, conveying power, might. In the interior, the spaces are vast, the subject matter presented with gravitas and even bombast, the rider made aware of the raw brutal power of energy through a unity between the exterior of the pavilion, the interior of the pavilion, and the nature and tone of the show.
Breathtaking. Awe inspiring. Perfect in every way. (Except for the ignoble exit and the pavilion not allowing for the incorporation of the Energy Exchange, its post-show and necessary complement).
But back to superheroes and margaritas.
"I have famously large turds!"
*Burp*
Why can you say something like that, but we can't say **** Van ****?
The Empress Lilly
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It pays to tip the mods a few dollars every once in a while, tightwad.
crxbrett
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Just think, in 10 more years, Van will become slang for something really dirty and we won't even be able to talk about him at all on here!
Bender123
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Yes...we know each building has a purpose and meaning, but beyond "futurism" there isn't a "theme" in the sense that Fantasyland looks like castle fair, Main Street USA looks line a Midwestern town, etc...
The "theme" for Future World is/was worlds fair with the technology buildings built on sponsorships. There is very little connection between large gold dome, giant mirrored wheel and 18 story golf ball...outside the link that they are striking architecture with a vague future theme. They are gorgeous building, but lets not pretend that a new "futuristic" building wont fit in an area filled with futuristic buildings. Putting aside what is on the inside of the attraction, we have no idea what the outside will look like.
lazyboy97o
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The connection is a celebration of human technological achievement, itself paired with a celebration of human culture. That is the connection. Guardians of the Galaxy is not futurism unless it is strained to be anything with technology or space. So the building visually matching Future World (which doesn’t make it “in theme”) would mean it has no relationship to the experience within.
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V_L_Raptor
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It's possible that you're oversimplifying things just to have something to post.
Bender123
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Not that I know what the ride is, or the theming of said ride, but considering that it hasn't been built yet, Im wondering where we are all getting these opinions from. Considering the building as "out of place" based on the attraction inside doesn't really make a lot of sense...unless we wanted to bulldoze Imagination for being about half the senses in a building meant to evoke dreamy feelings. Not even going to bring up how Spaceship Earth definitely doesn't look like a lighthearted comedy version of the past and a Jetsons future ending.
I was at Epcot in the old days and miss them, but Im also not above giving WDW a chance on these updates.
Bender123
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Please do tell me...beyond worlds fair futurism, what is the theme of original Epcot? Thats not simplification, that literally what the Imagineers called it.
lazyboy97o
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You’re just conflating a bunch of stuff and even contradicting yourself hoping to stumble into a gotcha. The Guardians of the Galaxy is not some unknown property. Theme is not just stuff kind of looking similarly.
V_L_Raptor
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Your analogy would work if we were talking about the original Energy show building being out of place, but we're not. We're talking about what's tucked (not too covertly) behind it.