News Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot

[GlacierGlacier]

Fitting entertainment is not just about theme, placemaking, time periods, geography. But also about tonality. A loud superhero dance party is an atonal sentimental fit, is a crass contrast to the stately American Adventure and the serenity of the promenade.

Putting the girls in mediaeval costumes does not make a Hooters a good fit for Fantasyland.

But they already have rock groups perform there during non-candelight and even sometimes during non-festival times. The only difference is now they're from Marvel.

To adjust your metaphor, it'd be like a general use building they put up in Fantasyland and already use seasonally for a generic Hooters suddenly got hobbit costumes. It's only tangentially related to the surrounding area, it doesn't contribute (or hurt) much, and it's temporary.

The American Pavillion is only quiet when the stage is empty. Any time anything is on there the atmosphere is blasted right out of there, until you enter AA. Maybe the exception of candelight. But that's my personal experience performing in that talking.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Fitting entertainment is not just about theme, placemaking, time periods, geography. But also about tonality. A loud superhero dance party is an atonal sentimental fit, is a crass contrast to the stately American Adventure and the serenity of the promenade.

Putting the girls in mediaeval costumes does not make a Hooters a good fit for Fantasyland.

I felt this way upon hearing the announcement, but the music that Quill likes is very much in line with what plays during the Festivals throughout the year. The metric for the presentation (characters from a Space travel movie) is an odd choice for the pavilion.

 

[po1998]

All the money going to the project and did I read speculation that the GotG ride will be a lesser attraction than the Mummy at Universal? If so, big disappointment.

I'm sure it will have a great queue though...WHO CARES about the queue!

 

[The Empress Lilly]

All the money going to the project and did I read speculation that the GotG ride will be a lesser attraction than the Mummy at Universal? If so, big disappointment.

I'm sure it will have a great queue though...WHO CARES about the queue!

Eh, queues can be quite effective storytelling and placemaking tools. Or simply awesome in their own right. I'd take a walking tour of ToT just for the queue! (Although at ToT the time spend in a segment is inversely proportional to its prettiness)

GotG queue will forever feel like a morgue though. A mouseoleum for UoE.

 

[mikejs78]

Does anyone know if there is going to be any kind of post-show area? Or is the whole UoE a queue/pre-show?

 

[Skibum1970]

They built Mission: Space and what happened?

Probably splitting hairs but there is a difference between a centrifuge and a coaster. For instance, my equilibrium doesn't agree with being spun but I'm fine with coasters. Plus, Mission Space received bad press when a few people died due to heart issues. So, while I am not too interested in the centrifuge, I will happily ride a coaster. While acknowledging that WDW is different than Cedar Point, the lines at Cedar Point are with the coasters and not the spinners.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Probably splitting hairs but there is a difference between a centrifuge and a coaster. For instance, my equilibrium doesn't agree with being spun but I'm fine with coasters. Plus, Mission Space received bad press when a few people died due to heart issues. So, while I am not too interested in the centrifuge, I will happily ride a coaster. While acknowledging that WDW is different than Cedar Point, the lines at Cedar Point are with the coasters and not the spinners.

Yes, but Disney gets serious issues when it builds anything with considerable intensity.

 

[WDWTank]

Except there’s no reason why aliens are hanging out in the American pavilion. Usually associated with colonial times but now hosts an alien rock concert.

Comic books are part of American pop culture

 

[marni1971]

Does anyone know if there is going to be any kind of post-show area? Or is the whole UoE a queue/pre-show?

There will be a hike from unload. I’d imagine with a level change and pretty things to look at on the walls during it.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

There will be a hike from unload. I’d imagine with a level change and pretty things to look at on the walls during it.

Vintage EPCOT managed to design rides with both an entrance and an exit at the pavilion's entrance, plaza, or relevant post-show.

No hikes anywhere. Unlike Soarin', Imagination, Test Track, Mission:Space, GotG, Rat.

Clowns and dwarfs making a mockery of the work of gods.

 

[ford91exploder]

Vintage EPCOT managed to design rides with both an entrance and an exit at the pavilion's entrance, plaza, or relevant post-show.

No hikes anywhere. Unlike Soarin', Imagination, Test Track, Mission:Space, GotG, Rat.

Clowns and dwarfs making a mockery of the work of gods.

Another classic design is Grand Central Terminal in NYC, Just watch how the traffic flows it's almost impossible to bump into someone unless done deliberately. And it's done in very subtle ways with ramps and staircases to gently guide the crowds in a optimal traffic pattern.

The reason why this is the case is in the past engineers were made to study both the theoretical and the practical side of engineering. When I took my mechanical engineering courses REQUIRED courses were 'Machine Tool Methods' i.e. machine shop where engineering students learned to run a lathe, milling machine and surface grinders as well as machine setup and layout.

Much whining about learning 'blue collar' skills but we quickly learned that while it's easy to design a part in CAD it's a lot harder to design a part that can manufactured economically as each step taken costs time and money to complete.

Engineers but especially Imagineers for the most part USED to be 'Renaissance Men' with skills in multiple domains including art and music, Now too many engineers are overspecialized and have no expertise outside of their domain and we see the results in poorly designed products and systems every day.

 

[larryz]

Except there’s no reason why aliens are hanging out in the American pavilion.

Did you not watch one single episode of The X-Files???

 

[larryz]

There will be a hike from unload. I’d imagine with a level change and pretty things to look at on the walls during it.

They're not running the cars back to just outside load (and into the obligatory Marvel gift shop)???

 

[marni1971]

They're not running the cars back to just outside load (and into the obligatory Marvel gift shop)???

Load / unload are roughly where theatre one / diorama one b used to be.

 

[larryz]

Load / unload are roughly where theatre one / diorama one b used to be.

Whew... you made it sound like folks would be dropped off somewhere out by the gravity building.

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

mouseoleum

I see what you did there and I like it.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Another classic design is Grand Central Terminal in NYC, Just watch how the traffic flows it's almost impossible to bump into someone unless done deliberately. And it's done in very subtle ways with ramps and staircases to gently guide the crowds in a optimal traffic pattern.

The reason why this is the case is in the past engineers were made to study both the theoretical and the practical side of engineering. When I took my mechanical engineering courses REQUIRED courses were 'Machine Tool Methods' i.e. machine shop where engineering students learned to run a lathe, milling machine and surface grinders as well as machine setup and layout.

Much whining about learning 'blue collar' skills but we quickly learned that while it's easy to design a part in CAD it's a lot harder to design a part that can manufactured economically as each step taken costs time and money to complete.

Engineers but especially Imagineers for the most part USED to be 'Renaissance Men' with skills in multiple domains including art and music, Now too many engineers are overspecialized and have no expertise outside of their domain and we see the results in poorly designed products and systems every day.

Huh? The organization of spaces is the realm of architecture and not engineering. Many, many Imagineers were not engineers either. Disney’s change in how spaces are approached is not an engineering issue, much less one of engineering education.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

I see what you did there and I like it.

You write these things, purring like a kitten over your own craftiness, and then you are left wondering if people will just think you can't spell.

 

[ford91exploder]

Huh? The organization of spaces is the realm of architecture and not engineering. Many, many Imagineers were not engineers either. Disney’s change in how spaces are approached is not an engineering issue, much less one of engineering education.

Architecture is the engineering of spaces and a heck of a lot of architects also have their P.E. stamp and a lot of places you cant call yourself an architect UNLESS you have your P. E. stamp.

Just ask any owner of a Frank Gehry building what the budget is for leak repair. They would have appreciated a bit more engineering...

So yeah engineering education is relevant here.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Architecture is the engineering of spaces and a heck of a lot of architects also have their P.E. stamp and a lot of places you cant call yourself an architect UNLESS you have your P. E. stamp.

Just ask any owner of a Frank Gehry building what the budget is for leak repair. They would have appreciated a bit more engineering...

So yeah engineering education is relevant here.

That’s not true at all. Architects are architects, not engineers. Waterproofing is an architectural detail, not an engineering detail. Architects who are also professional engineers are a rarity. No state requires architects to be professional engineers, but architects can legally do at least some engineering.