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[WondersOfLife]

The queue and preshow talk about key stone species and how they are studied to learn about ecosystems in the real world. The ride itself is basically just the flight, but the experience as a whole is set up as educational.

Gotcha gotcha. I had FP+ so I bypassed all of that.

 

[FigmentForver96]

It took me many years to understand that there were supposed to be towers that disappeared from the front. Even if they were only an elevator car's width.

That's why the elevators move forward. They are moving into the missing shafts and we're basically going back to that night.

 

[lazyboy97o]

That's why the elevators move forward. They are moving into the missing shafts and we're basically going back to that night.

Opaque elevators hoistways aren’t usually a defining feature of a hotel exterior. The layout of the hotel really makes no sense.

 

[FigmentForver96]

Opaque elevators hoistways aren’t usually a defining feature of a hotel exterior. The layout of the hotel really makes no sense.

I agree in sign placement, doesn't make much sense but I get the idea of being in the service elevator and then moving into what was the real shafts. The layout isn't perfect by no means but it still, to this date, one of the pinnacles of ride experiences. I had yet to see something top the detail and story of the ride.

 

[ToTBellHop]

It is clear that it is intended that there were towers in front of the elevator shafts that disappeared, even if that doesn’t actually make sense for a hotel layout. What makes even less sense is that the sign is attached over some of the broken edges of the building, such that “Hotel” in the very least would be found within one of the wings that disappeared.

The sign should be higher. Did they watch their preshow?

Of course, in DCA and WDSP, you enter the building and turn right (same as DHS) which in those cases makes the busted up elevator shafts perpendicular to the ones outside.

For a ride with such exquisite detail, there are some cringe-worthy continuity errors.

 

[andre85]

Of course, in DCA and WDSP, you enter the building and turn right (same as DHS) which in those cases makes the busted up elevator shafts perpendicular to the ones outside.

For a ride with such exquisite detail, there are some cringe-worthy continuity errors.

Something that 99.9% of people will never notice is cringe-worthy now? Odds are the Hollywood sign is exactly where it is because it simply looks better; it would probably look odd and unbalanced if it were above where the towers are, without the towers actually being there.

I mean, this is the Twilight Zone--weird crap happens all the time anyway.

 

[999th Happy Haunt]

Opaque elevators hoistways aren’t usually a defining feature of a hotel exterior. The layout of the hotel really makes no sense.

Doesn’t have to. This is The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror.

 

[Mike S]

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It is clear that it is intended that there were towers in front of the elevator shafts that disappeared, even if that doesn’t actually make sense for a hotel layout. What makes even less sense is that the sign is attached over some of the broken edges of the building, such that “Hotel” in the very least would be found within one of the wings that disappeared.

The sign should be higher. Did they watch their preshow?
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Of course, in DCA and WDSP, you enter the building and turn right (same as DHS) which in those cases makes the busted up elevator shafts perpendicular to the ones outside.

For a ride with such exquisite detail, there are some cringe-worthy continuity errors.

Well, for one the model used for the preshow isn't even representative of the actual building at all. The roof gives it away. We don't know what the actual building they went with would look like with the towers. Maybe they didn't go as high. That would still be an error though because the preshow doesn't use the correct model.

 

[marni1971]

Something that 99.9% of people will never notice is cringe-worthy now?.

Because the other 0.1% used to be catered for too?

This is a well known flaw that was overlooked during design.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Something that 99.9% of people will never notice is cringe-worthy now? Odds are the Hollywood sign is exactly where it is because it simply looks better; it would probably look odd and unbalanced if it were above where the towers are, without the towers actually being there.

I mean, this is the Twilight Zone--weird crap happens all the time anyway.

Thank you for the lecture. I’ll try to control what makes me cringe.

Weird is fine. Inconsistent isn’t. For DHS, just change the preshow to go with an appropriate building. They moved Steven Tyler’s fingers next door...

Here I thought I was a member of boards for obsessed WDW fans.

 

[Kram Sacul]

Something that 99.9% of people will never notice is cringe-worthy now? Odds are the Hollywood sign is exactly where it is because it simply looks better; it would probably look odd and unbalanced if it were above where the towers are, without the towers actually being there.

I like to think that when the towers disappeared the signage above dropped down a bit. They are damaged after all.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I like to think that when the towers disappeared the signage above dropped down a bit. They are damaged after all.

Dropped but didn’t fall? How was/is it affixed?

I believe gravity still existed between 1939 when a portion of the hotel disappeared into the Twilight Zone and 2017.

 

[andre85]

Because the other 0.1% used to be catered for too?

This is a well known flaw that was overlooked during design.

It's weird to me to take this attitude with what is considered by many to be the pinnacle of Disney's ride design. As a "known issue," I'm sure they had some very good reasons for taking a few creative liberties for the individual betterment of both the ride and the pre-show. The 0.1% will never be catered to, since it's literally impossible to appease 100%

Thank you for the lecture. I’ll try to control what makes me cringe.

You're 100% free to cringe at whatever you want, just as I am to believe it's hyperbolic

 

[Kram Sacul]

Dropped but didn’t fall? How was/is it affixed?

I would imagine that it was bolted to the building or the roof of the structure that disappeared. After the 1939 incident the sign became loose and dropped down to where it is today. Some of the concept art and model actually show the sign and letters dangling:

For whatever reason this was changed and the sign was built to look like it was always there.

 

[*Q*]

Here are a couple others that show the east spur:
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^The western routes on this one split around Land.. Odd.
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Intriguing that they apparently considered monorail expansion that relatively recent in the past, it looks like this was around 2003.

 

[bclane]

I would imagine that it was bolted to the building or the roof of the structure that disappeared. After the 1939 incident the sign became loose and dropped down to where it is today. Some of the concept art and model actually show the sign and letters dangling:

For whatever reason this was changed and the sign was built to look like it was always there.

It's funny how I never get tired of looking at that building.

 

[andre85]

It's funny how I never get tired of looking at that building.

It's a truly beautiful building. Ironic, given its state

 

[bclane]

It's a truly beautiful building. Ironic, given its state

Hmmm, I never really thought about it like that but yeah, that is pretty ironic...and makes it all the more impressive..

 

[Tom Morrow]

Because of the different appearance of the hotel in the ToT preshow, as a kid I was absolutely convinced that that was a real episode and Disney simply just didn't get the look of the building quite right.

A few other things about the hotel's layout don't make any sense. Even if the sign was higher up as it should be, those hotel wings that disappeared would be extremely tiny.

The fake elevator doors you see in the lobby would actually go nowhere. Although they are supposed to represent the main elevator shafts in which the incident took place and where the drop sequence takes place, from outside you can see that there is nothing above the lobby. Inside the left library ("Echo"), and before it, there are fake windows EDIT (whoops forgot to finish this thought) but their placement doesn't make logical sense as that is not an exterior wall, in fact, the boiler room is on the other side.

 

[FigmentForver96]

Because of the different appearance of the hotel in the ToT preshow, as a kid I was absolutely convinced that that was a real episode and Disney simply just didn't get the look of the building quite right.

A few other things about the hotel's layout don't make any sense. Even if the sign was higher up as it should be, those hotel wings that disappeared would be extremely tiny.

The fake elevator doors you see in the lobby would actually go nowhere. Although they are supposed to represent the main elevator shafts in which the incident took place and where the drop sequence takes place, from outside you can see that there is nothing above the lobby. Inside the left library ("Echo"), and before it, there are fake windows.

Amazing these flaws yet nobody has built anything as detailed and magnificent.