Guardians of the Galaxy coming to Energy Pavilion at Epcot

[Figments Friend]

Is the problem lack of good Imagineers, or management that won't give them the freedom or money to do really good work?

A good question for the masses to ponder.





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[mickey v-neck]

It's the same contradictory rambling you've already repeated before. You're continue to ignore an entire history in favor of the recent delusion that the Magic Kingdom is some kiddie park and are still jumping around to find some excuse that might hold up.

Man you really have your jimmies rustled that someone disagrees with you.

 

[MUTZIE77]

If they are so hell bent on using Guardians in an attraction, why not look two doors down at an attraction that is already space themed and would minimize the fact that the IP does not belong in Epcot? It would fit the current MO of the Bobs. Then they could redo Energy with an appropriate theme.

 

[bstiles]

I still have my alien encounter coffee mug and when you pour the coffee in the picture on the side of the mug turns into the alien.

 

[Donaldfan1934]

Not all kids think Space and BTMRR are fun. I've seen plenty of them get off in tears.
Lot of kids liked AE. The ones whose parents knew they could handle it, as opposed to the ones who were scared even before their obsessive parents drug them on it. The same parents who then got mad.

I said most not all. Yes, obviously kids get scared on those type of rides, but the ratio between scared and not was probably fairly different between the coasters and AE. I'm also pretty certain there's still some difference between them and SGE.

 

[ThemeParkJunkee]

Magic Kingdom needs something for an older audience. Alien Encounter was just not what it needed.

My hubby suggested we skip MK next trip until I reminded him that he liked the "Mountains", he relented but insisted we have dinner and wine at BOG so he wasn't subjected to the "kiddie park" without getting to feel like a grownup. He's weird that way....I however, enjoy much of MK and even he had to admit the effects in ETWB were well done. Just one and done.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I was never trying to justify it being a kiddy park, but rather a family park. Name me one MK attraction before AE that could truly be considered an experience strictly for those teen+. I didn't intend to look like I was making excuses by adding to my point. I'll admit that occasionally my argument can slip as it does with anyone, but I feel in this case my argument has been relatively consistent.

That's a made up metric that fits whatever you want it to fit so that you can always claim a disconnect. There are plenty of children at Halloween Horror Nights enjoying the event so there is no universal standard. The Magic Kingdom still features selling brides and suicide. 'Scary' was not originally part of Snow White's Scary Adventures. Even something like the Hall of Presidents is not exactly the sort of thing young children will become enamored with, The problem with your argument is that you are not making excuses, you're just repeating ones you've read without realizing that their connective tissue is the false narrative of a kiddie park.

 

[SpaceMountain77]

It'll probably be a tweaked version of the Primeval World poster art they're selling as a T-Shirt for the Anniversary of that diorama right now.

Um. . . . . . . . so . . . . . . . . yeah . . . . . . . . I kinda bought the Primeval World t-shirt last night, along with the New Orleans Square anniversary t-shirt, because the Disney Store was offering free shipping on the 4th of July.

Everyone, please do your best not to judge me.

 

[Mike S]

It'll probably be a tweaked version of the Primeval World poster art they're selling as a T-Shirt for the Anniversary of that diorama right now.

Yeah. Tweaked to include the original logo for the attraction and "EPCOT Center" somewhere on it to give the illusion that they still have one ounce of care. Unlike Maelstrom, I won't be buying this one. I shall resist.

If they are so hell bent on using Guardians in an attraction, why not look two doors down at an attraction that is already space themed and would minimize the fact that the IP does not belong in Epcot? It would fit the current MO of the Bobs. Then they could redo Energy with an appropriate theme.

I'd actually prefer Energy if they're dead set on this because by all accounts we would end up with a much better ride than a reskinned M:S. Just in the completely wrong spot. Plus M:S is rumored to get some kind of update anyway.

 

[Donaldfan1934]

Magic Kingdom needs something for an older audience. Alien Encounter was just not what it needed.

I think that's a fair enough statement. If something along those lines is done, I just hope they could do something that could blend in seemlessly like another mountain. Mature, yet still somehow wholesome.

 

[FigmentJedi]

I'd actually prefer Energy if they're dead set on this because by all accounts we would end up with a much better ride than a reskinned M:S. Just in the completely wrong spot. Plus M:S is rumored to get some kind of update anyway.

I'd have gladly taken a reskinned M:S. Energy may be getting a lot of flack for how its aged or boring, but Mission Space is probably the dullest thrill ride E-Ticket on property.

 

[odmichael]

I'd have gladly taken a reskinned M:S. Energy may be getting a lot of flack for how its aged or boring, but Mission Space is probably the dullest thrill ride E-Ticket on property.

In my mind, all they can really do is change the screen without making significant changes to the ride. And I don't think that will happen. I also don't think changing the rocket flight will make it any more exciting than it already is.

 

[Donaldfan1934]

That's a made up metric that fits whatever you want it to fit so that you can always claim a disconnect. There are plenty of children at Halloween Horror Nights enjoying the event so there is no universal standard. The Magic Kingdom still features selling brides and suicide. 'Scary' was not originally part of Snow White's Scary Adventures. Even something like the Hall of Presidents is not exactly the sort of thing young children will become enamored with, The problem with your argument is that you are not making excuses, you're just repeating ones you've read without realizing that their connective tissue is the false narrative of a kiddie park.

While there has always been overlap, they also attract different types of families looking for different types of experiences. The kiddie park thing is just how you connect the info I bring. As I previously mentioned, HM and SWA were never intended to be as overt as AE was. I strongly agree that HoP doesn't appeal to kids, or even a lot of adults, but there's nothing in there that's inappropriate for them content wise. I'll leave you with this question. If the tech was available, do you think Walt or the first gen. Imagineers would've built something like AE? Be honest.

 

[Phil12]

Let's not forget that one of the principal actors in AE was Jeffery Jones. He was arrested and convicted as a sexual offender against children in 2003. The story generated a lot of bad press for Disney. AE closed in October, 2003. Coincidence?

 

[SpaceMountain77]

After 86 pages and numerous posts, to me, it seems as though Epcot will soon be thematically eclipsed by the other three parks. Through additions, colors, and refurbishments, Animal Kingdom is becoming a sight to behold. I regularly skipped visiting Animal Kingdom, but now, during the past two years, have dedicated at least two full days to visiting the park. It is not simply the attractions, but the comprehensive immersion deep into the wilds of Africa and Asia. One only needs to step into Harambe Market to experience the true difference between an amusement park and a theme park. If the concept art is faithfully executed, Disney's Hollywood Adventure, or whatever moniker it carries, will offer the same level of immersion into the movies that adults and children cherish.

There is demotivator on despair.com that reads, "it is always darkest before it goes pitch black." I am not an overly negative person, but suspect that the thematic direction of Epcot will continue to get much worse before its thrown a DCA 2.0 or DHS 2.0 lifeline.

Also, I am curious to see how the further characterization of World Showcase will coincide with the International Food & Wine Festival. Adults actively drinking around the world along side of children lined up for Frozen Ever After and Ratatouille is something that exceeds the limits of my imagination.

 

[Wikkler]

Let's not forget that one of the principal actors in AE was Jeffery Jones. He was arrested and convicted as a sexual offender against children in 2003. The story generated a lot of bad press for Disney. AE closed in October, 2003. Coincidence?

Yes.

 

[jrogue]

It's just not a great ride, and I know nobody who has a strong love for it.

I have a strong love for it I'm gonna miss stupid judy lol

 

[Donaldfan1934]

Let's not forget that one of the principal actors in AE was Jeffery Jones. He was arrested and convicted as a sexual offender against children in 2003. The story generated a lot of bad press for Disney. AE closed in October, 2003. Coincidence?

I think not. It seems whole history of this attraction was a perfect storm of had PR just BEGGING for closure.

 

[MUTZIE77]

I'd actually prefer Energy if they're dead set on this because by all accounts we would end up with a much better ride than a reskinned M:S. Just in the completely wrong spot. Plus M:S is rumored to get some kind of update anyway.

I would rather it go where it could sort of make sense instead of taking over half of Future world East, since WDW only adds lands now and we can't just have one Guardians attraction. If they are going to spend the money anyway maybe umm... put it in DHS in a new building.

 

[SpaceMountain77]

Also, I am tired of reading blogs, discussion boards, and insider online editorials stating that "Disney has to destroy Hollywood Studios and Epcot to fix them."

The dedication plaques, with thoughtfully crafted mission statements, are far from the length of Tolstoy's War & Peace. Faithfully executing and furthering a theme of 150 words or less is not the arduous, doctrinaire task that Tom Staggs had alluded to in interviews regarding the placement of Frozen Ever After. Creating modern, relevant attractions in the areas of atmospheric sciences and robotics, for example, can be done. However, Disney is electing to destroy decades of theming in favor of something it would rather do.