Guardians of the Galaxy coming to Energy Pavilion at Epcot

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ScottKC

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The thing that totally throws me out of Ellen's Energy Adventure is the Jamie Lee Curtis "character". I can forgive that when I rode it there was no Bill Nye or Ellen animatronic...but the fact that Jamie Lee Curtis does not play herself like everyone else does is reason enough to welcome Groot & Rocket Raccoon. "Wait...Ellen DeGeneres and Jamie Lee Curtis were college roommates?" ;-)
 
RSoxNo1

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tl77 said:
I'm assuming they're won't really be a concretion the current Energy pavilion/concept, although I'm sure if enough people complain I'm someone at the Walt Disney co. will concoct some far fetched explanation for it's being there the like Joe Rohde trying to rationalize Avatar at AK because "it's all about nature" ...when it's really "all about money"... but god bless Joe for trying
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Gotta disagree here. There aren't many IPs that fit in the Animal Kingdom, but I think Avatar fits the bill. I also think they wanted a way to get dragons in the park without calling them dragons. This accomplishes that as well.
 
FigmentJedi

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RSoxNo1 said:
Gotta disagree here. There aren't many IPs that fit in the Animal Kingdom, but I think Avatar fits the bill. I also think they wanted a way to get dragons in the park without calling them dragons. This accomplishes that as well.
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Even though it'd be so much easier to just get dragons into the park and actually call them dragons?
 
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HiYa Pal said:
The direction is if there's no corporate sponsors, then it's "IP sponsors." Which could potentially encourage sponsorship in order to avoid diluting cultural representations in the World Showcase, but I'm afraid that means nothing is off limits in FW.

While I don't love the idea of GOTG in FW, I can see some potential, but what's bugging me the most is there would then be multiple space themed pavilions, and while there's still some elements ( some extremely faint elements) of edutainment in all the updates in FW, what is a wholly fictional world going to teach us about?
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It's going to teach us that "edu"-tainment is dead. It had its one brief shining moment, but now the only thing that matters is putting in IP-based rides that will (a) get people through the gate and (b) sell merchandise. Like the naïve idealism of the Round Table, the original vision of EPCOT - and even Epcot - is dead and buried. Let's just hope that the quality of whatever they decide to dump into FW is high enough so that even if the park as a whole becomes an incoherent mess, at least we'll have some good rides...
 
lebeau

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ScottKC said:
The thing that totally throws me out of Ellen's Energy Adventure is the Jamie Lee Curtis "character". I can forgive that when I rode it there was no Bill Nye or Ellen animatronic...but the fact that Jamie Lee Curtis does not play herself like everyone else does is reason enough to welcome Groot & Rocket Raccoon. "Wait...Ellen DeGeneres and Jamie Lee Curtis were college roommates?" ;-)
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I'm not sure Ellen was playing herself. In the 90's, she played a character named Ellen Morgan on a TV show called Ellen. So the Ellen in the ride isn't necessarily Ellen DeGeneres. Unless of course her last name is used somewhere and I don't remember.
 
SpaceMountain77

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Brian Swan said:
It's going to teach us that "edu"-tainment is dead. It had its one brief shining moment, but now the only thing that matters is putting in IP-based rides that will (a) get people through the gate and (b) sell merchandise. Like the naïve idealism of the Round Table, the original vision of EPCOT - and even Epcot - is dead and buried. Let's just hope that the quality of whatever they decide to dump into FW is high enough so that even if the park as a whole becomes an incoherent mess, at least we'll have some good rides...
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I am going to board Living with the Land, close my eyes, and just make believe, that I'm a tiny little seed, a tiny little seed that's reaching up to meet 1982.
 
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skimbob said:
I didn't start visiting the World until 2010 when I did my first 1/2 marathon.
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I feel sorry for you. And this is not meant in any sarcastic way at all. The EPCOT of the 1980s and early 90s was the most amazing "theme" park ever built. It was the great experiment that proved you could mix entertainment and education in elaborate high-tech rides. FW DID have a very coherent theme, and at each of the WS countries you actually felt like you had stepped into a small part of the actual country. If all you've know of EP is from 2010 on, it's no wonder it seems like a headache-inducing mess. But on the plus side, you don't feel the pain of knowing how great it USED to be the way us "old folks" do... :)
 
ToTBellHop

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danlb_2000 said:
Insert obligatory Monty Python sketch here ---->
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Kylo Ken

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Epcot purists hate it. The average park guest loves it. People will complain. Others will tell them to get over it. Guess what, that’s the story of Disney. You can’t please everyone. As long as the $$$$ is rolling in, then all bets are off. Enjoy the remnants of the old EPCOT Center while they still remain.....
 
FigmentJedi

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RSoxNo1 said:
Can't do it because Universal did and the two companies never copy each other.
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Universal doesn't own an exclusivity contract over dragons and unicorns. The shelving of Beastly Kingdom over Lost Continent just seems silly because well, they're two different beasts entirely even with the thematic similarities. Dueling Dragons didn't really do anything with its premise outside the queue. The ride itself is about dragons in the same sense that a random steel rollercoaster at Six Flags is a DC Superhero experience.
 
ToTBellHop

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Kylo Ken said:
Epcot purists hate it. The average park guest loves it. People will complain. Others will tell them to get over it. Guess what, that’s the story of Disney. You can’t please everyone. As long as the $$$$ is rolling in, then all bets are off. Enjoy the remnants of the old EPCOT Center while they still remain.....
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What are these remnants you speak of?

American Adventure? Maybe Living with the Land? Those should stay.
 
RSoxNo1

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Tahu said:
Universal doesn't own an exclusivity contract over dragons and unicorns. The shelving of Beastly Kingdom over Lost Continent just seems silly because well, they're two different beasts entirely even with the thematic similarities. Dueling Dragons didn't really do anything with its premise outside the queue. The ride itself is about dragons in the same sense that a random steel rollercoaster at Six Flags is a DC Superhero experience.
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I'm not disagreeing with you at all. But I wouldn't be surprised if "not using dragons" was part of the conversation.
 
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