Guardians of the Galaxy coming to Energy Pavilion at Epcot

[Ripken10]

It shouldn't be. Post count is irrelevant.
It's post count to likes ratio that means everything and thats what should make people feel complete in their souls.

yeah, but so many people make post just to get likes (and those are the people I tend to hit ignore on).

 

[Horizons1]

...this works for Epcot how? The park is just going to be about random IPs now?

 

[bhg469]

Yes but to make the rebirth work... One has to actually pitch what the new identity is so people can embrace that and see how the new pieces fit together. Until they do that... Everything will be a struggle.

And if this is the new direction, Pandora should probably have been here... So their new direction seems to be wherever they want to fit whatever they want.

 

[Phicinfan]

come on dude you cannot expect somebody to read every post! i read his post and then saw the reply and it came across as a bit over the top... if you would like me to go and have a look at his posts on this thread and see what i think i will go have a scan...

OKay, don't mean to intrude, but as I am relatively new here, I think I can simpathize some, and also advise some.

I kind of jumped in here when the Frozen ride in Norway was first announced, and I jumped in questioning why that is such an issue.
First I will say I went way over, and should have read closer and seen both sides of the argument better.

My point is this, there are some extremely dedicated, and fanatical Disney fans on this site. Some have become very ...disappointed due to what seems as a very real loss of direction that this company has taken. They miss the days of what Disney really stood for, which was total fan satisfaction, and reaching for the unreachable. They rightfully remember the days where going to Disney was so over the top in customer service and theme, that you totally lost touch with the existing world.

As such, they are extremely upset when these haphazard changes take place, and then when new rides or ideas do get done, they are not as well thought out or executed as they were in the past. Then new folks come in, who seem to be more open to change, regardless of value or fit, and it causes angst.

Here is the key, it is a message board. If you allow yourself to take anything personal its on you. You are more than entitled to your opinions, and as long as you follow the forum rules post as you like. But you can't take umbrage when you suddenly question a long time poster's style when you don't understand or fail to see their point of view.

I love this place, the insiders here are awesome, and you can get a TON of new information here. You just need to respect the fact that some here really know more, and are more reliable to listen to.

 

[Donaldfan1934]

I know that sounds drastic but Epcot has to function as one whole and even with now 3 out of place attractions IMO, it's become more of a mess.

FEA is the first, GotG is the second. What is the third?

 

[bhg469]

...this works for Epcot how? The park is just going to be about random IPs now?

No, not random.. Just the ones that are really popular for a short time. Don't you think this is a great decision?

 

[Matthew]

what if its part of a larger plan in the future to all but abandon the future world concept totally... if they incorporated a couple of IP's in with the park and then perhaps modified the land and the seas then it becomes almost just another theme park and have the world showcase as the centerpiece of the park... add in a couple of new countries maybe.

 

[ctxak98]

FEA is the first, GotG is the second. What is the third?

I don't believe nemo fits at all. Yeah it's fish but it has nothing to do with the overall sea base theme that is still obviously there.

 

[flynnibus]

...this works for Epcot how? The park is just going to be about random IPs now?

It's just a new super secret theme now... We gotta give wdi enough time to spin something together to glue randomness together

 

[wdisney9000]

makes two of us then doesn't it pal. look dude i'm sorry if i've offended you however y'all jumped on me for having an opinion.. you can't expect me not to push back.

All good, friend. Hope you Stick around. This is a fun place.

 

[Horizons1]

No, not random.. Just the ones that are really popular for a short time. Don't you think this is a great decision?

Is Guardians popular? I loved the movie and I know it did well. I know there's a sequel coming, but I don't hear anyone talking about the first movie or the upcoming second. It's a great movie but the longevity of the IP doesn't really exist.

I love how Disney has blatantly given up on Epcot. Dare they even attempt to make an updated energy? NOPE! Just throw in some Marvel characters! That'll get the idiots in!

 

[Unplugged]

Explain why I should spend $1000s on a vacation to see VR if I could buy the HTC Vive for $800?

The old EPCOT Center was awesome, but now its time to let it go.

I set no pricing and made a joke that obviously cannot be physically accomplished. But if you want a comparison to the joke, then simply put, the HTC Vive cannot (nor can any other VR technology we currently have) provide true neurological interfacing to create stimuli that emulates actually being in a different environments (parks), as the Matrix interface does. We only have audio/visual with current VR. So there is your price point difference. HTC gives a great AV representation through current VR technology. The Matrix makes you think you are actually there, sound, sight, smells, temps, motion, and feedback.

I have no problem "letting the old EPCOT go" for a new theme or style, so long as that theme is comprehensive in that it appears there are intentional design queues. However, it is a theme park that is losing it's theme and falling in-line with the lacking DHS. Right now it's becoming a mish mash and lacks cohesion as has been discussed at length on these forums. I'm not letting a theme go that is still supported by Disney when they have not stated what it is exactly that we are seeing.

On the bright side, it has been indicated that there are numerous projects on the horizon that will bring the focus back for EPCOT. What that focus/theme is we shall see, but at least it's focus we can enjoy.

 

[dizneycrazy09]

Is Guardians popular? I loved the movie and I know it did well. I know there's a sequel coming, but I don't hear anyone talking about the first movie or the upcoming second. It's a great movie but the longevity of the IP doesn't really exist.

I love how Disney has blatantly given up on Epcot. Dare they even attempt to make an updated energy? NOPE! Just throw in some Marvel characters! That'll get the idiots in!

I think Guardians is popular - I'm not sure of the longevity of the popularity, however. Will people care in 10 years?

 

[Mat Cauthon]

I think the first step in seeing any positivity in all of this is to accept that EPCOT Center is dead and buried under Epcot. If you can do that, once you hear more about the GotG additions, you will at least be able to respect that it should be a good addition to the current park. Anyone who continues to harp on the fact that they are killing EPCOT Center will be unhappy with the direction the park is taking. But, it's been following this path for probably 10-15 years. This will not be the straw that broke the camel's back. The camel died in the early 2000s.

It's a matter of perspective--embrace the new park identity and possibly find enjoyment in new offerings or insist that the lack of EPCOT Center ensures that the park will be a hell-hole, and find yourself chronically depressed at its state. I'm not suggesting one perspective is better than the other--do what works for you. Although my background would suggest that the latter is more harmful to your cardiovascular health long-term.

I have only been going to WDW for about 10 years now so to honest I'm firmly in the embrace the new park identity group. The only version of EPCOT I have ever known looks like it does now. What everyone is describing sounds great but I can't mourn the loss of something I never experienced. By Martin's account the new version will be somewhere between old and current EPCOT and I'm good with that. This park needs help so bring it on as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Matthew]

OKay, don't mean to intrude, but as I am relatively new here, I think I can simpathize some, and also advise some.

I kind of jumped in here when the Frozen ride in Norway was first announced, and I jumped in questioning why that is such an issue.
First I will say I went way over, and should have read closer and seen both sides of the argument better.

My point is this, there are some extremely dedicated, and fanatical Disney fans on this site. Some have become very ...disappointed due to what seems as a very real loss of direction that this company has taken. They miss the days of what Disney really stood for, which was total fan satisfaction, and reaching for the unreachable. They rightfully remember the days where going to Disney was so over the top in customer service and theme, that you totally lost touch with the existing world.

As such, they are extremely upset when these haphazard changes take place, and then when new rides or ideas do get done, they are not as well thought out or executed as they were in the past. Then new folks come in, who seem to be more open to change, regardless of value or fit, and it causes angst.

Here is the key, it is a message board. If you allow yourself to take anything personal its on you. You are more than entitled to your opinions, and as long as you follow the forum rules post as you like. But you can't take umbrage when you suddenly question a long time poster's style when you don't understand or fail to see their point of view.

I love this place, the insiders here are awesome, and you can get a TON of new information here. You just need to respect the fact that some here really know more, and are more reliable to listen to.

dude appreciate the reply.. as you say its a message board not real life... as soon as i turn my computer off its over with lol

i respect the information you can get here... like i say i've been watching awhile.

i also think its important to remember that just because the old days are gone doesn't always mean the new days are bad... for a family who visits for the first time its still a majorly happy experience with top notch service etc.

I went to Disney 15 times between ages 4 and 14 and it was amazing as a child... I went back in 2015 for the first time as a 32 year old and it was just as amazing as an adult and alot was just as i remembered it... so much so that i loved it that much i went back in may 2016 and got engaged there, i'm going again in november and again in 2017 (10 person family holiday with my 2 5&6 year old nephews (cannot wait!!!)).

Disney means something different to everybody i guess... i have my old memories from when i was a kid but now i'm making new memories that are just as special to me as an adult.

 

[Matthew]

All good, friend. Hope you Stick around. This is a fun place.

hahah we will see... i'm sure i will rub people up the wrong way occasionally and probably end up getting kicked off.

always important to have somebody arguing the otherside of an argument to make sure there's a proper perspective.

 

[danlb_2000]

what if its part of a larger plan in the future to all but abandon the future world concept totally... if they incorporated a couple of IP's in with the park and then perhaps modified the land and the seas then it becomes almost just another theme park and have the world showcase as the centerpiece of the park... add in a couple of new countries maybe.

I would be sad to see it go that route. What Iiked about Epcot is that it was set pretty firmly in reality and I think that is what differentiated it from MK and DHS. There are plenty of places at WDW were we can get immersed in fantasy, but it was nice that Epcot used all the Disney magic to immerse us in interesting parts of the real world. I don't think Future world necessarily needs to be about the Future, but I would like to see it stay rooted in reality.

 

[Matthew]

I would be sad to see it go that route. What Iiked about Epcot is that it was set pretty firmly in reality and I think that is what differentiated it from MK and DHS. There are plenty of places at WDW were we can get immersed in fantasy, but it was nice that Epcot used all the Disney magic to immerse us in interesting parts of the real world. I don't think Future world necessarily needs to be about the Future, but I would like to see it stay rooted in reality.

i think if they were committed to future world they would of properly invested in it in little amounts on a yearly basis... so that it didnt become ''this is what we thought would be the future".

shame Epcot used to be favourite park... i would like to see new countries in the world showcase (and NO FROZEN) and i would of liked a proper future world update... imagine how could that could of been with todays technologies!

 

[dizneycrazy09]

I would be sad to see it go that route. What Iiked about Epcot is that it was set pretty firmly in reality and I think that is what differentiated it from MK and DHS. There are plenty of places at WDW were we can get immersed in fantasy, but it was nice that Epcot used all the Disney magic to immerse us in interesting parts of the real world. I don't think Future world necessarily needs to be about the Future, but I would like to see it stay rooted in reality.

And it can be done, if the "figure out how to fit the hottest IP into a ride that needs help" mentality dissipates even somewhat. I long for the days of original imagineering. I want to see original attractions, but sadly, I'm not sure we ever will again.

 

[danlb_2000]

i think if they were committed to future world they would of properly invested in it in little amounts on a yearly basis... so that it didnt become ''this is what we thought would be the future".

shame Epcot used to be favourite park... i would like to see new countries in the world showcase (and NO FROZEN) and i would of liked a proper future world update... imagine how could that could of been with todays technologies!

I tend to agree that "future" can be a loosing battle, so that is why I think the focus should shift more to "reality" then "future". Show cool things about our history, about other parts of the world, about science, but without getting to far into predicting the future.