Guardians of the Galaxy coming to Energy Pavilion at Epcot

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Earl Sweatpants

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Wow, Maelstrom may just be the most divisive attraction on this site. It seems that for every person who loves it, there's somebody who hates it.

Grew up loving Maelstrom, then took about a 15 year hiatus before riding it again. It didn't "impress" me the way I remember it from childhood, but it was no less a fitting attraction for its pavilion. With a few tweaks, it could have been even better.
 

RoysCabin

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Not gonna re-litigate Maelstrom/FEA, but I'd rather discuss them as parts of the larger discussion of lost theming and what have you. In that regard, Maelstrom worked well as an introduction to Norwegian culture, especially because you had to take the experience as more than just the boat ride; the time spent in the nighttime village was a vital part of the theme, as was the five minute Spirit of Norway film (which sadly was left to age very badly in ways that Impressions du France and other World Showcase films didn't). Its greatest flaw, I believe, was that it was marketed like an E ticket, as "EPCOT Center's first thrill ride!", rather than the smaller, more intimate experience of "ride -> village -> film" that left a favorable impression on people like me.

That's what extends to the GotG issue: as a standalone attraction I'm sure whatever they're going to put into Energy will be solid, and anything that updates the painfully mid-90s Ellen show is welcome on some level, but Future World functioned best as a unified experience, each attraction sort of bleeding into and informing the next, allowing each pavilion to feel like much more than a brief, isolated experience (also helped by the fact that most of the pavilions had more show spaces in them than just a ride).

It kind of becomes a pattern: you take what was a larger experience and shrink it, but us fans and many casuals are so eager for updates to aging attractions that we're essentially willing to say "ok, better than nothing". I don't think it's at all fair to say that some people are "dense" or what have you about it, as enjoyment of things like theme parks is highly subjective, but I think it's fair to say there's a slight divide between those who are more satisfied with a solid isolated experience and those who would rather have the larger themes of a given area kept consistent...obviously, we'd all ideally like to have both.
 
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Mike S

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Not gonna re-litigate Maelstrom/FEA, but I'd rather discuss them as parts of the larger discussion of lost theming and what have you. In that regard, Maelstrom worked well as an introduction to Norwegian culture, especially because you had to take the experience as more than just the boat ride; the time spent in the nighttime village was a vital part of the theme, as was the five minute Spirit of Norway film (which sadly was left to age very badly in ways that Impressions du France and other World Showcase films didn't). It's greatest flaw, I believe, was that it was marketed like an E ticket, as "EPCOT Center's first thrill ride!", rather than the smaller, more intimate experience of "ride -> village -> film" that left a favorable impression on people like me.

That's what extends to the GotG issue: as a standalone attraction I'm sure whatever they're going to put into Energy will be solid, and anything that updates the painfully mid-90s Ellen show is welcome on some level, but Future World functioned best as a unified experience, each attraction sort of bleeding into and informing the next, allowing each pavilion to feel like much more than a brief, isolated experience (also helped by the fact that most of the pavilions had more show spaces in them than just a ride).

It kind of becomes a pattern: you take what was a larger experience and shrink it, but us fans and many casuals are so eager for updates to aging attractions that we're essentially willing to say "ok, better than nothing". I don't think it's at all fair to say that some people are "dense" or what have you about it, as enjoyment of things like theme parks is highly subjective, but I think it's fair to say there's a slight divide between those who are more satisfied with a solid isolated experience and those who would rather have the larger themes of a given area kept consistent...obviously, we'd all ideally like to have both.
Remembering this post the GotG issue goes even further.
Not really.

It's a debate if this ride will be GotG without actually being called GotG. Still seems to be a gray area.
It ties in with what others on OU have said about there still being limitations on what Disney can actually do with GotG in Florida like how they possibly couldn't even advertise it here. If this is all true, I really don't see why they have to do it. With all this red tape they don't have a lot to gain. Just do an epic new version of UoE and be done with it.
 

the.dreamfinder

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A new Disney/UNI Marvel contract rumor courtesy of VashSky. Hold onto your butts and bring out those grains of salt!

Got an interesting bit of info coming your way, this time more about WDW & negotiations between companies. Prepare your feeds accordingly ;)
https://twitter.com/VashSky/status/773282876355850241

Disney has apparently been negotiating with Universal on a new deal over the Marvel rights for almost a year now...
https://twitter.com/VashSky/status/773283616117764096

Can't elaborate on the details but it has to do w/ media usage rights of Marvel chars on certain platforms & sharing those rights w/ Uni
https://twitter.com/VashSky/status/773283711076880384

This means a lot of things for not just WDW, but parks worldwide, it's more likely WDI will get dev $ for Marvel concepts if WDW is included
https://twitter.com/VashSky/status/773284009036029952

4 starters,Disney really wants is a full blown thrill ride at the front of EPCOT,& UoE fits the bill.If u're a fan,I suggest u ride it soon
https://twitter.com/VashSky/status/773284262275493888

From what I'm hearing as of now, UoE would be completely demoed & replaced by a thrill ride themed to Marvel, opened in time for WDW's 50th
https://twitter.com/VashSky/status/773284341908582402

Its not greenlit yet, & its still contingient on a lot of moving parts but u can expect WDI 2 ramp up dev on this after start of fiscal yr
https://twitter.com/VashSky/status/773284450306101248

They'll also be watching DCAs ToT redo to see if it's a hit w/ guests, if it's as big as they think it will be, consider UoE's days numbered
https://twitter.com/VashSky/status/773284550717808640

While there are hurdles (rights,finances,feedback,etc.) Disney seems committed to this prospect than any previous Marvel proposal at WDW
https://twitter.com/VashSky/status/773285501906198528

Add in the height test balloons and I think it's pretty clear that Disney is serious with bringing Marvel to WDW - That's all for now!
https://twitter.com/VashSky/status/773286312140951552
 
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Bill Cipher

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Yes
Why the heck would Universal want the sinking ship that is ESPN?
Good point, I redact my statement. I could see Chapek forking over quite a bit of dough to UNI to get the Marvel theme park rights in Florida though, seeing as he is so loyal to Perlmutter.
 

Mike S

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The far bigger question would be, what does Universal get?
I would imagine that Disney is only going for GotG as buying out the whole contract would most likely be very cost prohibitive since Universal holds all the cards. My guess? Something having to do with an update of the entire MSHI brining it all in line with what was done with Spider-Man and Hulk. Your guess is as good as mine for what exactly that "something" would be. Using MCU actors for an Avengers ride maybe? Idk.
 
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