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Guardians of the Galaxy coming to Energy Pavilion at Epcot

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Pam Hates Penguins

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I would still find GotG a slightly weird fit in the MK, although much better than in FW. It's not a complete clash, but somehow it doesn't feel an organic fit either.

It's a pity the new DHS lands are single-ip driven. A Marvel, or Marvel-esque, land would work there.


Mickeytouille would be just perfect to anchor a new Big Five Land as replacement of Dumbo Tent Land. :)
Let's face it. Guardians of the Galaxy doesn't fit at all with Disney Parks...
 

The Empress Lilly

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Disney obviously needs a a new land. We'll call it SteamPunkLand. Along with 20K and some other rides we'll also put in the teacups, but we'll change them to coffee cups since Starbucks will be the new sponsor!
Steampunk was hip for like two minutes in two-thousand-are-you-kidding-me. Or was that last century even? And even then it was overrated. It's a style that clashes with Disney, regardless of what Tony Baxter may think.

It feels like the harsh, industrial, non-nostalgic relative of its cousin Victorian (and its US counterpart) style, which Disney always nails to perfection.
 

Biff215

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Let's face it. Guardians of the Galaxy doesn't fit at all with Disney Parks...
DHS certainly could be the right fit. Shame they don't seem to realize that park needs added capacity. I'd even be okay with using RnRC if it meant more superheroes could be added back there eliminating the dead end in the meantime. Just leave ToT alone!

Epcot could be "fixed" without shoving IP's in and probably done cheaper as well. when the dust settles, we could still have two parks with issues...DHS with capacity and Epcot with identity.
 

Mike S

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I would still find GotG a slightly weird fit in the MK, although much better than in FW. It's not a complete clash, but somehow it doesn't feel an organic fit either.

It's a pity the new DHS lands are single-ip driven. A Marvel, or Marvel-esque, land would work there.


Mousetouille would be just perfect to anchor a new Big Five Land as replacement of Dumbo Tent Land. :)
GotG would fit fine in Tomorrowland the same way Star Tours has since 1987 worldwide. Especially in Magic Kingdom where it takes inspiration from things like Buck Rogers.
DHS certainly could be the right fit. Shame they don't seem to realize that park needs added capacity. I'd even be okay with using RnRC if it meant more superheroes could be added back there eliminating the dead end in the meantime. Just leave ToT alone!

Epcot could be "fixed" without shoving IP's in and probably done cheaper as well. when the dust settles, we could still have two parks with issues...DHS with capacity and Epcot with identity.
That works too.
 

lazyboy97o

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Steampunk was hip for like two minutes in two-thousand-are-you-kidding-me. Or was that last century even? And even then it was overrated. It's a style that clashes with Disney, regardless of what Tony Baxter may think.

It feels like the harsh, industrial, non-nostalgic relative of its cousin Victorian (and its US counterpart) style, which Disney always nails to perfection.
The problem with steampunk is that it gets confused with and substituted by spartan industrialism. All of the cold metal and mechanics needs to be properly scaled and balanced with different textures to create a sense of handcrafted warm.
 

The Empress Lilly

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The problem with steampunk is that it gets confused with and substituted by spartan industrialism. All of the cold metal and mechanics needs to be properly scaled and balanced with different textures to create a sense of handcrafted warm.
Fair enough. Even so, I never liked Imagination's Dreamcatcher either. ;)
 

doctornick

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It doesn't fit in Epcot.

If only there was somewhere in the MK. Say with wasted space. Temporary tents that could easily be removed....
I've seen this argument a lot but I don't agree. I mean, yes, Frozen would be a better fit in Fantasyland -- the actual Fantasyland, with it's medieval castle theming. They absolutely could and should find a way to expand FL proper to allow for more properties to be added there where they would belong.

But Storybook Circus actually works as a distinct environment. It's light on attractions and could user additional ones -- yes, as a replacement for the tents would be ideal -- but Frozen doesn't make sense there. And if the point is to separate Storybook Circus in half and make the tents a different enviroment, that actually makes the theming more choppy and disconnected, not better.
 

Matt_Black

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1) It's a Hans Christian Andersen tale and so should be in Denmark, not Norway.
1) Saying Frozen is based on Hans Christian Andersen's story is a bit like saying the movie The Lawnmower Man is based on the Steven King story of the same name.

2) Aquavit originated in Denmark, and I don't see anyone complain about that being available in the Norway pavilion.
 

lazyboy97o

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Fair enough. Even so, I never liked Imagination's Dreamcatcher either. ;)
I'm not a big fan of the Dreamcatcher either. It too falls into that same sort of problem where in order to look complicated and eccentric it just sort of has a lot of stuff on it. Instead of trying balance the look so that it has warmth and ensure that it's components convey purpose, more metal parts are thrown onto the object.
 

The Empress Lilly

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I'm not a big fan of the Dreamcatcher either. It too falls into that same sort of problem where in order to look complicated and eccentric it just sort of has a lot of stuff on it. Instead of trying balance the look so that it has warmth and ensure that it's components convey purpose, more metal parts are thrown onto the object.
Indeed.

But I considered it the finest WDW example of the warm steampunk style you described. What would you then consider its best examples? Elements of DLP Discoveryland?
 

KikoKea

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If the focus is supposed to be the physics and energy concepts, then what is the point of the characters? The whole point of the franchise mandate is to only invest in established franchises to keep them going.
The characters would add fun, interest for kids, humor, and act as a platform for learning just like Ellen and Bill does in the current UoE or Figment/Dreamfinder does in Imagination. When teaching my kids to type, I used a program that had cartoon characters and games for practice, and it worked very well. I see no reason why fun and education and characters cannot go together.
 

The Empress Lilly

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The characters would add fun, interest for kids, humor, and act as a platform for learning just like Ellen and Bill does in the current UoE or Figment/Dreamfinder does in Imagination. When teaching my kids to type, I used a program that had cartoon characters and games for practice, and it worked very well. I see no reason why fun and education and characters cannot go together.
Classic EPCOT Center:
 
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