Growing Concern I have about Guests and WDW

cpeterstx

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I've only posted once (just joined) so I hope I am doing this right!

My husband and I were at WDW in May. Normally we don't have encounters with rude people:confused: but this last trip we did. We were at MK, lined up along Main Street sitting for the parade when we were tapped on the shoulder by a woman. She was with another woman and 3 kids. She asked us if we were leaving soon to which we said "no", we were watching the parade. We thought that was that. Next thing you know (as the crowd is building for parade time) we hear her behind us telling everyone around us that she asked us to move and we didn't, we were being ignorant and we don't even have kids so why are we even there. Folks, this went on the whole time. Finally, near the end of the parade DH turned around and told her, a) you never asked to move, just if we were leaving; b) had you asked us to give up our seats for the kids we probably would've and stood behind (have done this in the past; and c) yes we don't have kids b/c we can't have them and last time we checked there were no signs saying you had to have kids with you to be part of the magic. She just looked at us but DH felt better about it. I try to not let stuff like that bother me but she did get to me a little because it seemed she was professing it to the whole park:mad:
Exactly. This is the kind of thing I'm seeing. I just don't understand why, at WDW of all places, we can't just put aside all our "issues" and be nice to one another. As others have stated, it's one thing to be hot and tired and quite another to go out of your way to be mean.

I won't let it ruin my time though!
 

hcswingfield

Active Member
If I want to watch a parade, or get a good spot to watch Illuminations, I am usually there an hour before the event to get a good spot. When people with small kids want to move in front of me at the last minute so their kids can see, I politely tell them that if they want front row, they need to plan ahead, and tell them I've been there for an hour. And I don't budge.
 

cpeterstx

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I'm not trying to "add fuel to the fire" or am I negative person and "down on the world" BUT rude behavior based on a "me first attitude" is everywhere today just not in WDW.

Watch people shopping at your local mall, go to a school event or sporting event, see people's attitudes in the work place, and watch the way people behave on the roads with their vehicles. Manners and a general concern and well-being for our fellow man(and woman) is rapidly disappearing.

I don't like it, I don't condone it, BUT I've learned to live with it! Just my two cents.


I think you're on to something with your statement. That's what I would love to see people put aside while at the park. After all, we'll all get to where we're going or on to the ride we want...just settle down and relax!

Actual quote heard at MK, near Peter Pan:

Young child (6 - 8 years old): Mommy, hurry the line is long
Mother: Well, hurry up and get up there.
Child: There are people in front of us {my wife and I and a few other groups}.
Mother: Well get in front of them
Child: But they are walking slow
Mother: Stop being retarded and get up there.

Nice...real nice...
 

Hummer1676

New Member
It's funny you talk about this. We just jad a motivational speaker come to our resort who is a Disney employee. His name is Louise Gravance and he talked about this exact thing. How people will do whatever to make sure they have magical experience. They will ruin whoever's vacation to make sure thiers is magical. He gave some great stories of guests he has dealt with.

People tend to loose the thought that thier not the only ones spending thousands of dollars trying to have magical memories.
 

wdwmomof3

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This is the biggest downfall of WDW. People will say to just ignore the rude guests, but I just get enraged and irritated. I know that being at Disney makes you feel like a kid, but you shouldn't act like one with no manners. Adults seem to think that they are entitled to be the first in line, first at the fast pass machine, etc. I've been pushed and shoved out of the way and have seen entire families go through a line to meet the one person who sqirmed their way to the front before anyone else. It's not right and you can't change people, but I can't help but get angry.

This is why I HATE the rides that have queues that turn into one large area and then back down to single file. Like Haunted Mansion, Test Track, Dinosaur and many others. No matter where I am in line, once we hit that room my little body gets shoved to the back of the line. And DH is a pushover and is one of the people that say "let it go". Errrr...I'm getting mad just thinking about it!! :brick:


You are exactly right. This is also where we were shoved around. I would have to hold my children's hands to keep all of us together once the door opened up because of everyone shoving to get in. Like the ride is really going anywhere, you will get on it.

My husband says it's the "Me Generation" and I totally agree.
 

DisneyGigi

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If I want to watch a parade, or get a good spot to watch Illuminations, I am usually there an hour before the event to get a good spot. When people with small kids want to move in front of me at the last minute so their kids can see, I politely tell them that if they want front row, they need to plan ahead, and tell them I've been there for an hour. And I don't budge.

I think the parades can bring out the worst in people. My DD and I had staked out our spot at AK for an hour or longer, DD dropped her toy and barely moved to pick it up and this woman out of nowhere pushed her way into her spot almost knocking her down:mad: I calmly informed her that this spot was taken and she rolled her eyes, muttered something and moved.
 

Vernonpush

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[/B]You are exactly right. This is also where we were shoved around. I would have to hold my children's hands to keep all of us together once the door opened up because of everyone shoving to get in. Like the ride is really going anywhere, you will get on it.

My husband says it's the "Me Generation" and I totally agree.
I agree.
The "Me Generation" teaching their children how to behave.
I worry about those children.
 

mnfootballmommy

New Member
We were in the Character meet and greet at Epcot and were next to see the Mouse himself when all of the characters started to head back towards the bus. The couple behind us (no kids) cut in front of us and ran to Mickey! I was stunned and blurted, "Hey! We were NEXT! Real nice!" Mickey's CM escort just shook her head and did let us get our pic with Mickey when the 'cutters' were done, even though Mickey was then holding up the bus.

Seriously, if they had kids with them and asked us, we would have let them go but to just cut? VERY rude.:mad: Cheers to the CM who understood our frustration and let us have a quick pic with Mick!:sohappy: And, of course, cheers to Mickey who was probably hot and thirsty by that time!

I do feel that 'some' of the magic is gone, but not necessarily by rude people. Back in the 'old' days, when you were at MK you were completely isolated from the outside world. No newspapers, no cell phones, etc. It was as if the real world melted away when you were there. Now the outside world has leaked into this magical place and keeps you grounded in reality, even if it's just a little bit. JMHO...:lookaroun
 

bgraham34

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Thats one reason why I like to go in the offseason. People tend to be a bit happier and the castmembers a little more relaxed.
 

hls1023

New Member
We enjoy going when the weather cools down a bit. I wouldn't be caught dead anywhere near WDW in the summertime. The heat does weird things to people. Your tired, you're really sweaty, the kids are usually cranky cause it's so hot outside and everyone is scrambling to take cover in an air conditioned building. I live in Florida and the heat is too much for me sometimes. I couldn't image being from somewhere up north where you aren't used to how hot it actually gets here.
When we go it is usually sometime between November and February and the weather is fantastic. We don't have to rush around to get out of the sun and we feel more like we can take our time.
 

Laura

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I agree with the contention that the crowded times bring out the worst in people (or perhaps it just attracts the worst people?). With limited time in the day, and so much to do and see, many guests treat their days at WDW as a game of survival of the fittest.

The easiest solution? Go to WDW when you're least likely to bump into someone every ten feet (off-season). It makes a world of difference. The collective lack of stress among the entire guest population is very apparent.

I completely disagree, but maybe I just had an unusual experience.

I noticed on this recent trip in June, when it was nearly 100 degrees everyday it seemed to bring guests together. Everyone knew that everyone else was hot so there was a strange sense of camaraderie. People seemed to smile at each other more with those "knowing" glances like "wow it's hot huh? LOL". It was actually one of my best experiences with other guests.
 

wdwmomof3

Well-Known Member
I agree.
The "Me Generation" teaching their children how to behave.
I worry about those children.

I do too. Kids today think that they should have the best if the best and that we should just hand it over with no questions asked. It's sad that so many parents fall for this and then the children show no respect for their parents or others. I could go on for days about my daughters friend, but I wont.:)
 

OmegaKnight

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I can tell you that as a cast member, it makes me mad how rude and inconsiderate some guests are but we learn how to deal with them and make sure that you still have the best time of your life when you visit WDW.
 

BrittanyRose428

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I think this is because youre older. What I mean is when youre young there was probably still rude people but you wouldnt really notice it because a child is still learning manners and probably wouldnt catch someone else being rude. I think you should just ignore them and make the best of everything.
 

mouselvrmom

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When we were at disney in January, we were waiting to see Peter Pan and Wendy. We were the last in line, a CM closed off the line after us so that they could go on break after us. He stood behind us and chatted with us so that no one would try to go in line. There were a lot of angry people that kept trying to get in line. Anyhow, we got to the front of the line. There was a family in front of us that was talking with Peter. As they were leaving a family came up from the side and starting talking with him, like they were with the people in front of us. At first I didn't notice them, I thought were these the people in front of us? My husband said, um, these people just walked up. So the poor CM had to go up to them and tell them that they weren't in line & Peter and Wendy wouldn't talk to them. They were of course very upset and rude about it. I feel really sorry for these entertainment CMs who have to deal with this routinely in the day. I'm sure it can't be very fun!
 

cpeterstx

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I can tell you that as a cast member, it makes me mad how rude and inconsiderate some guests are but we learn how to deal with them and make sure that you still have the best time of your life when you visit WDW.


Thank you OmegaKnight. I neglected to mention how some of the CMs did a great job handling rude people, all the while with a smile on their face. The vast majority of the CMs are very, very good and very underappreciated.
 

Nemo14

Well-Known Member
I think it's not just at WDW though - it's everywhere and not just with kids. We were at my daughter's college graduation this spring, and arrived over an hour early to set up our seats on the hill adjacent to the ceremony (lots of the kids do this, and we were encouraged to join them.) The college kids couldn't have been nicer to us - they set up blankets in front of us, then moved them down a bit to give us leg room. They even brought extra bottles of water for anyone who wanted one. Then 5 minutes before the ceremony began, 2 older people decided that the 4 inches of legroom was enough space for them to set up their own chairs directly in front of us, and proceded to invite their entire extended family to join them! The last straw was when my daughter crossed the stage to accept her hard-earned degree, the lady in front of us decided to move her head directly in front of my camera. Apparently this is why they don't allow firearms in the ceremony, because frankly I was so annoyed I'm sure I would have used it! :lol:
 

Jesùs_Carioca

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i wonder if as kids this was happening but we didn't notice it until as adults


I may not speak for everybody in this forum, but as an 18 year old "kid," I can still remember a bit from my very early childhood and beginning days of Disney.


I can say that when i was very little, i never really noticed the grownups around me as much as i would now... age difference, looks, appearance, how they acted... a grown up was a grown up to me. I never bothered to actually notice how they would act, nor care to converse with them. The only grownup that i learned to pay attention to was whoever was in charge of my group or a cast member who's giving out instructions. This in no way meant not to respect other people though. At an early age i was specifically taught not to bother others around me, a very important thing to learn living in Orlando, FL and frequenting Disney multiple times.

Honestly, i don't remember caring much to "Weed out" rudeness as an infant...but I'm pretty sure it must've been there. The only time that i could ever classify rudeness on another person's behavior with my past memories was only because in the sequence that i remembered within my mind, i always thought it was my mother's fault as a child, when in reality it was the other persons.

You see, i have this memory of very long ago... I must've been 10, 11 at the very most. Where I was sitting with my mother on the curb around main street waiting for the afternoon parade near the castle. I was not a social butterfly to say the least, haha. I avoided contact with other folks, especially strangers. You see, that's why my mother would always make me feel so uneasy at times when we went to disney...being a castmember, she'd always try to help people out or give advice or shout some sort of friendly comment to people here and there (in her horribly chopped up spanish mother accent). As a kid, i was naive enough to assume that my mother was causing commotion for no reason. But i digress...anyways, we were sitting on the curb, and when the announcement came that the show was just around the corner, out of nowhere, these couple of people a bit away from us who were sitting on the curb with the rest caused this dreaded chain reaction of standing up on the curb, which is sometimes the worse thing one can do to ruin everybody else's view of the show...especially when everybody began to uneasilly stand up because they didn't want the person next to them ruin their first glimpse of the show.

It got around to the people right to the left of us standing up, and my mother stays seated on the curb and tells the kid next to me "hey, you don't have to stand up to see it, don't worry! sit down!" The kid looked maybe a bit older than me, but not by much, and what he did was tug on his father's shorts standing next to him. My mum just repeated the same thing again to the guy, except at mid-sentence the man replies to her "shut your mouth, lady."

As a kid at that moment, the only reason i bothered to remember that time was because it made me think "You see what you did mom? That's what you get." As if i were reprimanding my mother for her actions, how her "Behavior" ultimately compiled up to this event that gave her what she deserved.

I was the stupidest little boy in the world for thinking my mother was doing something wrong for joyfully (what i thought as a child to be pesteringly) asking the boy and his father to sit down, and assuming that the man had all the right to ask my mother to shut her mouth.

Now being much older and independent, it seems as if my mother's actions have really rubbed off on me. Whenever i go to Disney I come with the mindset that I was really blessed as a child to know this park so well that I have been able to see everything, do everything and enjoy everything as a kid... now it's time to make sure others are able to do the same. I'm no Cast Member, i wish i could be (but i will be moving away for college soon), but i know very well now that of course there are rude people in the park... I've had many experiences with them, that i have... it's explainable for some occasions, it really is when i try putting myself in their shoes.

But sometimes it just makes me frown and think that on select ocassions, where it just baffles me as to why people would allow such a behavior in such a beautiful plasce, that they really don't get it.
 

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