General Star Wars News

[Jedijax719]

It's almost impossible to differentiate those who are just bitter against SW and those who really don't want a female director (or at least Sharmeen). And it is more difficult to determine whether they are the same group of people.

If this place is any indication, no SW project has ANY glimmer of hope of succeeding or even being slightly ok.

 

[Phroobar]

Do they really think it is good idea to alienate the people buying the tickets and merchandise for their movie?

 

[Jedijax719]

Do they really think it is good idea to alienate the people buying the tickets and merchandise for their movie?

Who is alienating anyone?

Has anyone actually watched Sharmeen's interview? What she was saying is that she likes to put spins on things that make men think about their approach to issues. That doesn't seem like an anti-male approach but rather something that challenges a typical male outlook. And it certainly isn't a right/left issue.

The question isn't whether there is a place for that? (the movie Barbie says hi). The question is what that means for SW.

 

[networkpro]

IMHO,

It'll be something new but not what Star Wars was.

 

[Willmark]

If this place is any indication, no SW project has ANY glimmer of hope of succeeding or even being slightly ok.

That’s Disney’s fault, not the fans.

I’m watching with interest to the developments. But Disney is fooling themselves if they think people are going to rush to see this “because Star Wars.”

ETA: depending on how it’s done the High Republic SW that is in the pipeline might have a shot and I’m interested to see how that turns out; but still wary there as well.

 

[Jedijax719]

That’s Disney’s fault, not the fans.

I’m watching with interest to the developments. But Disney is fooling themselves if they think people are going to rush to see this “because Star Wars.”

ETA: depending on how it’s done the High Republic SW that is in the pipeline might have a shot and I’m interested to see how that turns out; but still wary there as well.

No, the idea of not even giving anything a chance IS the fan's fault. Period. But I see the trolls are out in full force at the new year.

 

[Willmark]

No, the idea of not even giving anything a chance IS the fan's fault. Period. But I see the trolls are out in full force at the new year.

Having a different opinion is trolling?

 

[Phroobar]

Throwing an inexperienced director at any huge budget movie tentpole movie guarantees failure no matter what the franchise.

 

[Jedijax719]

Throwing an inexperienced director at any huge budget movie tentpole movie guarantees failure no matter what the franchise.

I'd say it is a risk, yes. But saying it is a guaranteed failure no matter what franchise? That is the definition of hyperbole. A bit extreme and baseless.

 

[fractal]

Over at Netflix, they just released Rebel Moon, which was supposed to be Snyder's answer to Star Wars.

How's that going? Discussion here....

Rebel Moon

It was awful. Hopefully, Netflix will give us the Snyder cut!

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Unwatchable. Space Nazis show up 15 minutes in (like in actual Nazi uniforms and German accent) and I checked out.

 

[Phroobar]

Unwatchable. Space Nazis show up 15 minutes in (like in actual Nazi uniforms and German accent) and I checked out.

At least you still have that two hours of your life. I assume you won't watch the Director's 4 hour cut.

 

[fractal]

my brother last year showed every Star Wars movie in order to his kids( ages 9 & 11)their favs are the Disney produced films with their favorite characters being Kylo and Rey…When the prequels came out a bunch of us original trilogy fans were disappointed…but now there seems to be a new appreciation for those…now that the kids who grew up with the prequels are adults….I would not be surprised if the same happens with Disney Star Wars in 20 years

I've had the exact opposite experience. Kids love the original three, then the prequels.

 

[fractal]

At least you still have that two hours of your life. I assume you won't watch the Director's 4 hour cut.

I did like his Justice League cut but no, not for Rebel Moon.

 

[Consumer]

my brother last year showed every Star Wars movie in order to his kids( ages 9 & 11)their favs are the Disney produced films with their favorite characters being Kylo and Rey…When the prequels came out a bunch of us original trilogy fans were disappointed…but now there seems to be a new appreciation for those…now that the kids who grew up with the prequels are adults….I would not be surprised if the same happens with Disney Star Wars in 20 years

I actually thoroughly enjoyed TFA and TLJ, but then TROS came along and just ruined everything. It's the only Saga film I've never rewatched and since it came out I've not rewatched the other two. It's amazing how bad Episode IX really was.

 

[Tha Realest]

Who is alienating anyone?

Has anyone actually watched Sharmeen's interview? What she was saying is that she likes to put spins on things that make men think about their approach to issues. That doesn't seem like an anti-male approach but rather something that challenges a typical male outlook. And it certainly isn't a right/left issue.

The question isn't whether there is a place for that? (the movie Barbie says hi). The question is what that means for SW.

Yes, and your paraphrase isn’t accurate:

"Oh, absolutely. I like to make men uncomfortable. I enjoy making men uncomfortable ... it is important to be able to look into the eyes of a man and say, 'I am here' and recognize that. And recognize that I am working to bring something that makes you uncomfortable, and it should make you uncomfortable because you need to change your attitude.

And it's only when you're uncomfortable, when you are shifty, when you have to have difficult conversations that you will perhaps look at yourself in the mirror and not like the reflection and then say, maybe there is something wrong with the way I think or maybe there is something wrong with the way I am addressing this issue."

This is far beyond “making men think about their approach to issues.” It’s confrontational and presumes the other side (men) are inherently wrong in their views.

 

[Phroobar]

I actually thoroughly enjoyed TFA and TLJ, but then TROS came along and just ruined everything. It's the only Saga film I've never rewatched and since it came out I've not rewatched the other two. It's amazing how bad Episode IX really was.

I enjoyed TFA up until they were planning on blowing up Starkiller base. Then I realized this was just ANH again. <sigh>

I hated TLJ because of how they treated Luke and the subplots where completely pointless. We got a slow Battlestar Galactica chase and a pointless casino/space horse sequence. TROS was disappointing because I knew were the source stories were coming from and they mangled them instead of just going that direction in the first place. Dark Empire was a great series. It would have made a great trilogy.

 

[Phroobar]

Yes, and your paraphrase isn’t accurate:

"Oh, absolutely. I like to make men uncomfortable. I enjoy making men uncomfortable ... it is important to be able to look into the eyes of a man and say, 'I am here' and recognize that. And recognize that I am working to bring something that makes you uncomfortable, and it should make you uncomfortable because you need to change your attitude.

And it's only when you're uncomfortable, when you are shifty, when you have to have difficult conversations that you will perhaps look at yourself in the mirror and not like the reflection and then say, maybe there is something wrong with the way I think or maybe there is something wrong with the way I am addressing this issue."

This is far beyond “making men think about their approach to issues.” It’s confrontational and presumes the other side (men) are inherently wrong in their views.

She must have the same handler as Rachel Zegler.

 

[Casper Gutman]

A divisive, hateful, sexist person.


Please tell me how you get an intent to 'impress' from "make men uncomfortable" without any sort of negative component from either side with her words?

11 male directors in the series. A woman pointing that out is the sexist one.

The men she wants to make uncomfortable are the ones whining in threads like this. As a man, I feel pretty confident that unless she unexpectedly delves into Cronenberg-Ian body horror, I’ll be quite comfortable.

This is pretty standard corporate boilerplate that’s going to cause an interminable argument.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I’m sure a director whose only notable experience is gender studies documentaries and a poorly watched TV series that exults in discomfiting half the audience is going to do great in winning back an audience.

Odd that you didn’t mention the two Oscars.

 

[fractal]

11 male directors in the series. A woman pointing that out is the sexist one.

The men she wants to make uncomfortable are the ones whining in threads like this. As a man, I feel pretty confident that unless she unexpectedly delves into Cronenberg-Ian body horror, I’ll be quite comfortable.

This is pretty standard corporate boilerplate that’s going to cause an interminable argument.

Not counting Solo and Rogue One (which had a woman as the lead),Lucas the creator directed 4, JJ 2, Kershner 1 (the best), Marquad and Johnson, the last three produced by a woman and had a woman as the lead character. So of the 9 true SW movies, really just 5 males directors but I get your point. As a whole, especially when you add in the Disney + series, I can't see how anyone can describe SW as overly sexist in need of some virtuous cleansing.