WDWFREAK53
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LOL...he hit it right on the head!!!
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Games of Chance at WDW
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LOL...he hit it right on the head!!!
WDWFREAK53
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Ok...here's my vote...
DOWN WITH CHESTER AND HESTER!!!
ToTBellHop
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Okay...allow me to share the ENTIRE Dinoland story with you all.
It all began in the 1940s and 1950s. This small area in the American Southwest was the home to fossilized dinos. So, first, scientists from the Dino Institute showed up and collected the useful bones and studied them in the Dino Institute. Now, this, of course, caused tourists to want to come by and see the fossils, so a small business, known as Chester and Hester's showed up and built a restaurant and gift shop for those tourists, hoping to make some money. Well, as time went by, tourists stopped coming to the area, and consequently, everything closed. Over the course of the next forty years, everything got rusty, including some old cars left outside. But all this time, the Dino Institute continued researching...until one day! VOILA! They came up with the Time Rover. Immediately, they cleared out their laboratories of the fossils, moved them into the Dinosaur Jubilee they quickly built under a tent, and they completely renovated the inside of the Institute, knocking out walls and putting in a loading bay for their Time Rovers--of course, the whole area is still old, which is why it looks as it does. Now, after determining that it was safe to go back to the time of the dinosaurs, the Dino Institute decided to make some money by opening up the Institute and allowing for time travel for tourists. Tourists FLOCKED to the Dino Institute, and some new people quickly bought the old Chester and Hester's area, and opened up the restaurant and gift shop next door, as well as an area for kids at the newly-unnecessary dig site. Well, eventually the tourists got bored with the fossils, so the Dino Institute decided it no longer needed to have staff to run the Dinosaur Jubilee, so that area closed. With this new area open for rent and with tourists flocking in, Chester and Hester's decided to buy up the land and build a tourist trap to bring guests in! Thus, we have the new-looking Dino-Rama, and the rest of the town looking old.
It all began in the 1940s and 1950s. This small area in the American Southwest was the home to fossilized dinos. So, first, scientists from the Dino Institute showed up and collected the useful bones and studied them in the Dino Institute. Now, this, of course, caused tourists to want to come by and see the fossils, so a small business, known as Chester and Hester's showed up and built a restaurant and gift shop for those tourists, hoping to make some money. Well, as time went by, tourists stopped coming to the area, and consequently, everything closed. Over the course of the next forty years, everything got rusty, including some old cars left outside. But all this time, the Dino Institute continued researching...until one day! VOILA! They came up with the Time Rover. Immediately, they cleared out their laboratories of the fossils, moved them into the Dinosaur Jubilee they quickly built under a tent, and they completely renovated the inside of the Institute, knocking out walls and putting in a loading bay for their Time Rovers--of course, the whole area is still old, which is why it looks as it does. Now, after determining that it was safe to go back to the time of the dinosaurs, the Dino Institute decided to make some money by opening up the Institute and allowing for time travel for tourists. Tourists FLOCKED to the Dino Institute, and some new people quickly bought the old Chester and Hester's area, and opened up the restaurant and gift shop next door, as well as an area for kids at the newly-unnecessary dig site. Well, eventually the tourists got bored with the fossils, so the Dino Institute decided it no longer needed to have staff to run the Dinosaur Jubilee, so that area closed. With this new area open for rent and with tourists flocking in, Chester and Hester's decided to buy up the land and build a tourist trap to bring guests in! Thus, we have the new-looking Dino-Rama, and the rest of the town looking old.
WDWFREAK53
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Great post!
I just have one question...how does the average person going to the beautiful animal kingdom with its lush scenery and unbelievable theming KNOW this storyline??? You could pull it off IF and ONLY IF the storyline was WELL known (say...based on a movie or something) but it ISN'T...so the AVERAGE person isn't going to have a CLUE what is up with this section of the park and is going to say, "Hey, this area really doesn't fit in does it?"
Thanks again for elaborating on the theming though...I knew I was leaving A LOT out...but now I know the story
disneydudette
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tru.....I think people only go to that section fro PW..... and the "knock-off dumbo ride" .....
so if they can make money in the process.....seems like a good idea...it just seems sad that Disney degrated(sp?) themselves to this....
so if they can make money in the process.....seems like a good idea...it just seems sad that Disney degrated(sp?) themselves to this....
bearboysnc
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Thats a fancy story to justify adding carny games to a Disney Park. There is NO way a guest could put that story together by visiting the park, no matter how many times they visited. You would have to spoon feed that crap to someone.
Where I come from it's call Bullshhhhhhhhhhhavings.
Give an Imagineer enough time, and they can build a story around a drinking fountain, trash can, or any other mundane object in the park.
Where I come from it's call Bullshhhhhhhhhhhavings.
Give an Imagineer enough time, and they can build a story around a drinking fountain, trash can, or any other mundane object in the park.
WDWFREAK53
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Glad I'm not the only one who thinks so.
disneydudette
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Doesn't it say on the map..."roadside carnival"...and therefore wouldn't u expect chessy things like that??
ToTBellHop
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There is a very simple way disney could solve this problem...put the story on a rock at the entrance to the park...it's a kewl story and it makes sense...and it tells you why everything is the way it is. If you don't like the area, I can't really help you because it's all here to stay--but that's the story behind it. I was just trying to solve the problem of people saying most of the land is old and rusty while Dino-Rama shimmers...in terms of your complains about the carnival atmosphere, just be happy the rides are safe and the ride ops have their teeth...
sillyspook13
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$2 incraments
sillyspook13
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My oldest sister, who has worked at WDW for 10 years, gave up her status and high paying job to work these games, simply because she loves it. I would hardly say "down with Chester and Hester".
sillyspook13
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Walt disliked carnivals because they were dirty, unsafe, and not family oriented. He had nothing against midway games.
sillyspook13
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Yup! It's all about role in the show. Isn't creativity a beautiful thing?
sillyspook13
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Yeah, but it's a PAIN to straighten them up in the display....... That's why they are displayed in a circle...... because once you get back to where you started, you have to straighten those dinos all over again! (Oh, enjoying the education I get from having 2 generations of family who worked in that dang shop.....:dazzle: )
MrPromey
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Yep, just like Journey Into YOUR Imagination. We all know that Disney in no way listens to guest reactions when it comes to not liking something.
…For me at least, the problem with these games isn’t so much what they are where they are but that they are a sort of gateway attraction if you will. Chester and Hester having games isn’t the end of the world but if they put them in and they are accepted and people like them and they make money with them, who honestly thinks they will stop there? Doesn’t fantasyland or tomorrowland seem like a promising area for this kind of a thing? Who couldn’t imagine a stall or two outside of Buzz Lighyear or maybe set up where the skyway entrance was? Then it’s only a matter of time till they come up with a way to put them in the other two parks somehow… They already charge for some stuff in Innoventions, what’s to stop them from taking it to the next level? How about a game or two near the exit to Muppet Vision?.. The truth is that that little area in Animal Kingdom isn’t even the gateway. The original was the new park in California… So who here wants to see a Pinocchio ring toss?
As someone else pointed out, the prizes are the same crap you see everywhere else, too… Even the ones at Bush Gardens are better because at least some of those prizes are unique to that park. Disney has the same low quality crappy (and ugly) stuffed animal things that you see at carnivals and state fairs.. They give away t-shirts and hats and pins for a game show that you don’t even have to pay to play and then don’t even give away Disney stuff in the stupid overpriced games?
Dizknee_Phreek
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yeah...if it were a carnival on the side of the road....but it isn't...it's Disney, so of course we're going to expect more. and as i've said before, Disney takes you to different times and places....but usually it's places that the 'normal-everyday-American' wouldn't be able to go to....and i'm pretty sure the 'normal-everyday-American' has or COULD go to a roadside carnival SOMETIME in their life. the way i see it, my family has put too much time and money into the Disney Company to see a roadside carnival enter the parks, i don't care what the storyline is!
one thing i don't get though...some people on this thread have been saying that 'the rest of the land looks old'....it never has to me...if you're only talking about Dino-Rama, then i can see that...but right now i'm thinking you're talking about the whole of Dinoland, which has never looked old in any way to me (besides the dino bones)...could someone clear this up for me? :veryconfu
WDWFREAK53
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Yeah, we were just talking about the Chester and Hester section with the rusty old cars and stuff...(but it's MEANT to look old)
WDWFREAK53
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Re: Re: Games of Chance at WDW
I beg to differ on that...Check out my post on "Chester & Hesters, is it worth it" and you'll see a quote from Walt Disney himself about these midway games.
Originally posted by sillyspook13
Walt disliked carnivals because they were dirty, unsafe, and not family oriented. He had nothing against midway games.
I beg to differ on that...Check out my post on "Chester & Hesters, is it worth it" and you'll see a quote from Walt Disney himself about these midway games.
You hit the nose on the head as me and WDWfreak been saying is this is not what Walt wouldn't have wanted.....He wanted it to constantly grow but not into this.
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Originally posted by disneydudette
tru.....I think people only go to that section fro PW..... and the "knock-off dumbo ride" .....
so if they can make money in the process.....seems like a good idea...it just seems sad that Disney degrated(sp?) themselves to this....