GAC to Become DAS

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RSoxNo1

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As someone that has traveled with GAC users many times (And am currently traveling with one right now). The system that Universal uses is very beneficial. If the wait is less than 30 minutes, they let you in the Fastpass line. If it's more than 30 minutes they give you a return time. There is nothing wrong with this system other than it's not at the same level of "benefit" as the soon to be defunct GAC system.

Having said that, changing the system in this manner does not solve the problem. The problem is and always will be about distribution. Putting the system in the hands of people that truly need it is the issue here, not the benefits themselves. Changing the benefits isn't going to change abuse. It's only going to change how much of a benefit those abusers (And the valid users) get.

Until a substantial change can be made in the distribution process, I see this as a lateral move at fixing the problem.
 

James122

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This "ride reservation time" system has worked at just about every other North American park just fine.
This is long long past due.

I agree. I don't mean to sound insensitive, but it's my understanding that many amusement/theme parks around the country use this type of system. It's isn't like this completely new or revolutionary.
 

dcdisney1

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I have a clotting disorder so I have used a GAC before for safety issues only, not as a fun pass, mostly to avoid stairs and turnstiles. Especially at DL the line up at the exit strategy is really dangerous because people come around corners not expecting people to be standing there. For me not getting bumped into is a high priority so I'll be much safer with the new method. I don't understand though about people who lack stamina not being able to go any more because the policy for those issues has always been rent a wheelchair/use ECV/use stroller as wheelchair pass and go through the accessible lines. That way it doesn't matter how many people you have and the affected person is sitting or doing a combo of sitting and walking as they best see fit. I've been yelled at in a restroom at WDW for using the handicapped stall and taking too long before. I was wearing a full body pressure garment that is really hard to get out of so need the extra space plus needed to do an injection of clotting medication and I like having the sink to be able to wash my hands after taking my shoes off to get the darned suit off before giving myself the shot ;) Usually people back off when you show them the big syringe! It is nice to not have to worry about toy story fp's running out BUT the no stairs line takes forever and there is no fp option for that ever. For me using it only when needed I felt like it all balanced out. I have a child with CP and I would never get it for him or let him ride over and over without waiting. When he gets tired we rest. We go during slow times and plan our touring carefully for the least busy times of day and sometimes we say no if a line is too long for him once he's tired. He's a teen now and does so much more than Drs ever thought because we expected no less for him.
 

ddrongowski

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The problem with this particular argument is that normal guests can use ANY stall but disabled guests are LIMITED to only the one stall. This could be an entirely different discussion that can and would create lots of flamed comments.
Just remember a handicap stall does not necessarily mean they have to be in a wheel chair. There are other reasons for people to use the handicap stall besides wheel chairs. Some handicap stalls have sinks in them for people to clean out bags, etc...
 

JLipnick

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Having gone to WDW with our handicapped 5 year old 6 times in the last 3 years using the GAC, we had gotten good at planning our days. So it has changed. We will adapt. I am not going to not go to WDW anymore. Granted, I don't have an autistic child so i don't know what it is like (although I have an idea) so I don't know how this affects them, but with a physically disabled child, we will make it work. I would assume others will also.

One question though. if a ride does not have a handicap accessible main line such as many in MK, how will that be handled? Most of those rides have had the handicap entrance the same as the FP+ entrance. I haven't read the official full description of how this new DAS works, but what happens in this situation?

Like I said, only time will tell how well this new system will work. But before bashing it, give it a try. If it doesn't work, then change things around a bit. I know we will figure it out and I assume 99% of the families that need it will figure it out as well.
 

JimboJones123

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With all the backlogs that GACs were giving Fastpass lines, I would think that this would benefit guests that need lower times in line even more. Sometimes fastpass sides can be 30+ minutes. If that can be cut under 10 minutes.....

Win???
 

JLipnick

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Just remember a handicap stall does not necessarily mean they have to be in a wheel chair. There are other reasons for people to use the handicap stall besides wheel chairs. Some handicap stalls have sinks in them for people to clean out bags, etc...
My wife was using a family bathroom in Epcot during our last visit. She was changing my son (handicapped 5 year old). I had gone to grab fast passes to MS and got back to the bathroom while she was still in there. a woman was waiting outside the bathroom with two little girls (no physical handicaps as far as i could tell). she kept knocking on the door complaining to her girls about why it takes so long. I said to her it is my wife with my handicapped son which is why it was taking a while. the look on her face was priceless. she then went to the regular ladies room with her two girls which was only about 5 feet away. we use those bathrooms a lot so we can both help our son, otherwise it is only one or the other of us as we both can't go into the men's or woman's rest rooms.
 

Gabe1

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Over the past dozen or so trips to WDW, my wife has been forced routinely to wait anywhere from 20 to 45 minutes at restrooms because many guests choose to use the accessible stalls that force guests with mobility issues to wait in very uncomfortable conditions. Ironically, this seems to be an issue in ladies rooms much more so than mens rooms as very rarely do I encounter the mens room accessible stall in-use and would never use it as I was brought up to respect that there is typically only one option for people with accessibilty issues while I have many.

I've have never seen a women not yield to a wheelchair. Further I've never seen a women with a child that 'has to go' not let them go ahead. And if a wheelchair is waiting 20-45 minutes to reach a stall so is every other woman, that speaks more to the lack of planning for adequate restrooms for woman overall. Can you imagine how long the wait would be beyond 20-45 minute if women had one less stall to utilize? The larger restrooms at Disney have dramatically more stalls that are larger in each restroom and numerous accessible stalls.

The etiquette of handicapped stalls is if there is not a disabled person waiting for the stall and other stalls are occupied it is fine to use it. It is accessible not handicapped reserved. You will also see women with multiple little kids use the larger stall, not only at Disney but at malls, airports etc. Face it you can't get two kids and a mom into a narrow stall.

But this may help your wife, there are many companion restrooms throughout WDW. Now these are not entitlement or reserved restrooms either. They can be used by families, couples and guests with disabilities.

Disney also points the general guests to these companion restrooms when the others need to be closed for cleaning.

Companion-assisted restroom facilities are located at all First Aid locations, as well as at:

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englanddg

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Argh...this article ticks me off just as much as the one I dissected yesterday.

“My daughter waited one minute to get on ‘It’s a Small World’ — the other kids had to wait 2 1/2 hours,” one unnamed mom had bragged to the Post. “You can’t go to Disney without a tour concierge ... This is how the 1 percent does Disney.”

Ok Snookie. First, this is just silly. If Small World has a 2.5 hour wait, the park is well past capacity.

And, no. The 1% pay for a real tour guide service from Disney which includes unlimited Fast Passes in the service. It's expensive. They don't need to hire scammers. They can afford the real deal. So, crawl back into your fake 1% life you live off your hubby's black Amex and promptly kill yourself for the betterment of the species.

On Monday, Martin told Yahoo Shine, "While it is admirable that Disney seeks to address abuse of and profiteering from their policy for the disabled by those who got disability passes unfairly, the park's 'solution' penalizes disabled children and adults, who were supposed to be served by the policy in the first place, by revoking their ability to go to the front of the line." She added, "This 'privilege' is actually a necessity for some kids with disabilities. Hopefully Disney will work closely with groups that advocate for people with disabilities to refine this policy so that it actually serves the people who need it the most."

I really don't care the disability. If your kid can't wait in a line, then they have no business being at a theme park (or a McDonalds or a Walmart or really anywhere)...sorry, but that's just reality. But, the reality is, that most can. They just don't like it. Guess what, so do all the other people in line with you!

Other criticisms were just beginning to hit Twitter on Monday, with one mom noting that because her daughter suffers from fibromyalgia, she would not be renewing the family's park passes. "See? One more reason we can't have nice things," tweeted another critic of the policy change.

I agree. Abuse is sad. I've not one across one poster in any of these threads (who wasn't obviously trolling) who said that GAC was a bad thing. The abuse simply was. But, this abuse is far more societal...it's a reflection of general abuse of ADA and HIPAA (people toss around those acronyms without even understanding what they are...even parents of the disabled don't understand the HIPAA doesn't mean that private companies cannot ask for or even require proof of disability (ADA covers proof, not HIPAA), and plenty think ADA means privileges, not "reasonable accommodation". <facepalms>

HIPAA has nothing to do with being disabled. It has to do with healthcare portability, first, and healthcare privacy (from the provider) second. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with private companies and ADA compliance. Nothing. Period. So, STOP BRINGING IT UP if you can't even take the time to even read a rather short summary of what it is (much less the legislation itself)!

ADA, likewise, is a nuanced set of regulations, but the overarching concept is REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION...Disney went above and beyond with GAC. Good for them. Which ends this response by tying back to my first statement...I agree, abuse is sad. Disney tried to make magic for those who might need a hand, and people abused the heck out of it instead.

“Disney reached out to us,” Autism Speaks spokesperson Michael Rosen told Yahoo Shine. “A large segment of our population with autism has sensory issues, so having patience to wait on noisy lines is a really hard thing.”

When Rosen has taken his own son, who has autism, to Disney World, for example, “he would start crying and screaming when we stood on a line, because he didn’t realize that in 25 minutes he would go on a ride. He had no idea why he was standing on a line, and that really takes away from the fun.”


Wow. That never happens with other kids. They NEVER hate lines and act up or cry and scream. Nope, never happens.

Every kid stands in rampant anticipation in the heat and crowds and waits patiently and never ever whines or complains or needs to suddenly go to the restroom or even throws tantrums. Only autistic children act up.

<facepalms>

I won't get into the previous "scale" comments I made in too much detail, but this ties to it. There's a HUGE difference between an Autistic child with little sense of reality and one that has minor autistic regressions. I don't think Autism isn't real. It most certainly is.

I just think the spectrum is so wide that you can't say "He has autism" and explain everything away with it (different than, my kid has Leukemia...for example...where it's fairly black and white).

MAJOR difference. Painting all children who have such a broad condition the same because you don't want to be inconvenienced by a temper tantrum (based on the statement in the article, nothing more)...I mean, come on. That's crap.

I tugged my kid (who, as far as I know isn't autistic, she's just a kid) out of the park one day last trip because of the way she was acting in the parks. We didn't do squat at Hollywood Studios our last trip, not even one ride. That was HER fault, not Disneys.

Nor should it have been their responsibility to provide me a "perfect line experience" because she was in a sour mood and decided to act up. A day back at the hotel room resting and her mood had reset. Was I happy I didn't get to ride Star Tours or Tower of Terror? Nope...but, it comes with parenting...sorry. It happens.

I saw where her mood was, and I was gonna end that. So, I spent the day working, and she spent the day resetting her mood. Not the best day of our trip, but I don't regret it (or the decision). It's no less a happier day, as we were still enjoying time together and, well, I won't say having fun, but as I said, it comes with the territory.

But, I made it very clear to her that it was HER fault. Something that I hope sticks with her.

Rosen said Autism Speaks has been urging parents concerned about the change to be patient and wait for the official release of the new policy from Disney. “We worked with them so they would make it as comfortable an experience as possible for our community,” he said.

Good. I hope they come up with a policy that works and is fair for all, and also realistic. How do you expect your disabled (pick a disability) child to learn how to cope with the real world if you constantly look for the easiest solution for you (not necessarily the child)?

Someone posted here a few posts back about how their child did "far more than Dr's ever expected them to"...and implied it was partially due to expectations from them as parents. That's exactly my point.

And, I'm sorry if I rant about this, but I have my own medical issues, and in the long run my parents (while obviously well meaning, I mean, what parent SHOULDN'T care about their kid's health?)...but, in the long run, they did me no favors as a younger child in that respect, because they (like many of these parents I see) have decided that instead of teaching me how to manage my Asthma and Hyperactivity (before it was called ADD or ADHD), they coddled it. And, I had a history of issues in school and with peers.

It wasn't until I got a bit older and they finally found a doctor who had some decent advice, discipline and physical activity, instead of medication and condolences, that that changed.

Do I think they were wrongheaded? Nope. I was 8 weeks premature, and they had to watch me in an incubator for three months. A pain that, being a parent now, I can only now begin to comprehend the impact that must have had on them. I was, quite literally, their little flower who was supposed to die (according to the Docs)...

My mother (she doesn't know I know this) thrashed for years to find the reason, anything but her being an unfit person...and, she found it. A morning sickness pill (prescription) in the mid 70s that was later brought up in a Class Action because it was known to cause premature birth but the company sat on that news and it was prescribed to millions of women, including her. She has all the articles in a scrapbook in her closet that I'm quite sure she doesn't know that I know exists...

The real world is cold and shallow. But, it's also warm. Major disabilities will always be, generally, respected. But, arrogant people who think that because they have "x or y" and then refuse to provide even basic documentation of proof of their claims, merely anecdotes...will not.

You can't miss work for 3 days and then say "well, I have ADHD"...it just doesn't work that way. And, while extreme Autism is just that...extreme, with extreme behavior. Mild autism is nothing like that.

So /Rant
 

minorthr

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The Yahoo report quoted as saying that an autism charity was involved in the decision making. I do have issues with my son. He gets fixated on doing something. If I needed to use the new system I would not say we are going to do "X". I would make the ride reservation and then head straight to the ride when it's time. There would be no waiting involved that he would know about. I purposely avoid situations that could result in a "fixation episode" unless we are prepared for it.
I also find visual timelines work well. We have actual pictures of what happens when, especially for school. As he gets older, he is getting better, and I can use the 1,2,3 rule as I've said before, and I use that for my other son too. And I know some of my friends that carry cards round with laminated pictures that shows what happens.
Essentially the DAS is not going to make you wait any longer. Telling your son he is going to ride "X" before you make the ride reservation time will.


Unfortunately none of those tactics have really worked with him.
 

luv

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Handicapped people generally wait longer for IASW, as they need to wait for a special boat. They don't get on in one minute. I've never seen a line for IASW longer than 90 minutes. It's rare for it to be over 45...and is generally a pretty short wait. Te first time I saw that article I knew it was full of lies. I still can't believe how it took off.

This change has been all over the local news here. It's on every broadcast for days, lol.

I personally know two people who are saddened that they can no longer do as much at Disney. I know there will be others.

It angers me that good people with REAL PHYSICAL TROUBLE are now less able (or unable) to enjoy a day at WDW. It is the fault of every person who used it without needing it. I doubt they are ashamed of themselves, but they should be!

I realize Disney had to do something, though. The abuse was out of control and (worse, for Disney) they cannot implement their dumb FPP if all the FP lines are crammed full of GAC abusers.
 

thelookingglass

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For probably 95% of the people that used the cards, "not able to do as much now" = now able to do the same amount as everyone else. Yes there are some rare exceptions. But most of you fail to realize the scope of just how many parties actually have the cards and how few of them truly needed that extreme level of accommodation (instant and unlimited fastpass line access) or any disability accommodation at all.
 

ninjaprincesst

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I'm having a hard time reading that this still isn't good enough for some former GAC users/abusers. Disney comes out with a system that seems to adequately/reasonably level the playing field to at least discourage abuse. While I still have questions about whether access to the system will be sufficiently restricted those in actual need or will this simply create an additional tier of fastpass+ users who can pull the wool over the CM at guest relations, it's a good step in the right direction.

Seriously, if a 10-15 minute wait isn't good enough and will result in a massive tantrum, what the devil are you doing in a theme park? I've been in the MK on days where I've had to wait 10-15 minutes for everything except taking a leak. How does one expect WDW to make it any better for people who feel 10-15 minutes just won't do? This is borderline offensive here. How much more blood do you want to squeeze from the stone?


I can understand a fifteen minute wait time is not much if you are physically able to stand for 15 minutes, what concerns me is people like my Dad, he has broken his back twice and after three surgeries he is lucky that he can stand and walk at all, 15 minutes wait time when he has to stand is a physical impossibility. He has no problem with the standby lines that let you stay in a wheelchair or scooter through out the line no matter how long they are, but those where he cant he has to stand 15 minutes is more than just a problem, it is not going to safely happen.
 

rct247

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One angle the current rumored system does not address... is the idea of abusers getting multiple cards for party to get more rerides. They should make it so a DAS holder can not also be a 'guest' of a DAS holder.

Here's how you would work it.. and why it needs to be addressed.

I'm a party of 4 dudes. I send Dude1 in to get a DAS for his party of 4 (Dude1...4). I then send Dude2 in to get a DAS for 'his' party of 4 (same Dude1...4). Now we have 2 DAS cards in our party. That means we can hold up to 2 different DAS 'time slots' at the same time. Extend the scenario and you can get more.

Dude1 goes to kiosk and gets return time T1. Dude2 goes to kiosk and gets return time T2.

Now you goto the attraction, Dude1 flashes his DAS, and all four people get on. Woohoo! Let's ride again! Loop around.. Dude2 flashes his DAS and all four people get on again. Of course Dude2 could have gotten a return time for a separate attraction in the first place.. and reduced his effective wait by doing the first attraction while waiting for his T2 time to come up. No go and get new T3 and T4 times... and repeat the process. Now the group can bounce between rides with reduced waits with minimal effort. The more passes they have, the more rides they can do before turning to the kiosk.

Now here is the problem. You can't limit a DAS to one per party. Why not? What if a family has two disabled kids that each prefer different rides? If you only had one pass, you'd force the pass holder to ride everything. If little Johnny doesn't like Space Mountain, but his disabled older sister does... she needs her own pass. Now each child needs their own pass.

You could 'mark' each DAS accompanying guest with a stamp... but you can't exclude a stamped user from getting a DAS for the reason just mentioned above. The solution is to require DAS guests to have their own timecards.. which can only have one time on it at a time. But Disney's solution appears to be more like a FP pass that is consumed.. vs a timecard that is reused.

It happens with the current GAC card too. A family of 13 will get 3 cards. Everyone appears to not have a readily apparent disability. What are the odds that a family has 3 members with disabilities that are not readily apparent? Probably slim to none, but it is possible. Disney won't limit it like that. It will be a loop hole, but honestly, each DAS is still limited. They won't get unlimited return times and with those return times, they still will have to wait.
 

rct247

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Mobility issues are not really a huge issue anymore at Walt Disney World. DAS won't be needed to address those concerns. Each attraction has their own procedures for handling wheelchairs, scooter, canes, crutches, walkers, strollers, strollers acting as wheelchairs, service animals, oxygen tanks, etc. (See http://www.wdwinfo.com/wdwinfo/disabmobility.htm for some good info.)

I find it extremely hard to believe anyone that says they simply can't do Disney now because of these new procedures that are going to happen. First off, many families with a true disability don't let a disability prevent them from doing something. Families usually find a way to make something work for them including combating all the other factors it took to get them here including air or car travel, lines to get in, new environments, crowds, weather, and different levels of accommodation everywhere from the airport to local restaurants, hotels, other theme parks, etc. To simply say that you won't be able to visit Disney now is bologna. Again, kudos for living you life day to day with all the struggles and little triumphs. You are going to let a change like this stop you? Nope, not buying it.

Making guests with disabilities wait? It's the most visited tourist destination in the entire world and you don't expect there to be waits? Even with a disability or special need, it's just a fact of life. Sometimes you have to an evaluate things and determine if it is suitable for you. I have family members who can't handle the heat, so they either choose not to go or they pick a cooler time to visit. The DAS system is very much like a Fastpass. Why shouldn't similar Fastpass rules apply? Yes, it requires some planning, but hopefully you did some planning before you visited anyways. After all, why would you spend all that money and not know a thing about the place you are going to visit?

I've seen the differences in the types of guests with disabilities. You have 3 types: the real deal, the kinda, and the fakers.
-The real deal families are usually the nicest. They are the most understanding. They are patient. They seek out the different options they have to have a normal enjoyable experience. They are the ones that are going to be ok with DAS. They are the ones that will carry their child bound to a wheelchair through a non accessible attraction to experience it. They are the ones that make the most of every experience. They don't feel they are owed special treatment or expect it, but in many cases they do warrant it. They visit guests relations with their concerns and for information. They approach attractions cast members on what they need to do to experience the attraction like everyone else does. They are the ones you can see the struggle in their eyes or hear it in their voice or see it in their actions. They are the ones you may not see the issue at hand right away, but sometimes it come out. They want equal treatment and a normal experience. This is unfortuntly the smallest percentage of current GAC users, maybe 15%

-The kinda families are a mixed bag. They usually have legitimate disabilities or special needs, but they sometimes over exaggerate. They have patience to a degree, but will be quick to give up. They seek out options to use their disability or special need to receive special treatment or to take the easy way out. They are the ones that will fuss at first about DAS, but eventually will give in. They are the ones that might come off as inconvenienced by lines and certain procedures including transferring. They are the ones that ask if they can take their electric scooter inside, are told they can't but can take a regular wheelchair, and then choose to stand in line because the wheelchair is less convenient. They sometimes exploit their disability or special need. They visit guest relations for ways to be treated differently than a normal guest because of their disability. They approach attractions cast members on how they can experience the attraction by not waiting in line because of their disability or special need. They are the ones that come off as lazy or entitled. They are the ones that you want to believe or can see some truth behind them, but can't look past the exaggerations and exploits to get more than they need. They want better or special treatment. This is a must larger percentage of GAC users, my guess around 40%

- The faker families are the liars. They do not have a legitimate disability or special need, and find ways to cheat the system. They have no patience and have quick tempers. They seek the easy way out and don't really care or think it's wrong at the expense of others. After all, they have an excuse for that too such as everyone else is doing it. They are the ones that will get angry about DAS, and won't let the issue go. They didn't need GAC in the first place, but they hate that their cheat system has been stopped. They are quick to say that they are being treated unfairly for their apparent disability. They are also quick to typically flash our medical papers which are also usually fake or exaggerated on why they need special treatment. They are not afraid to exploit. They visit guest relations for assistance because they have a medical condition that says they can't wait in lines. They approach attractions cast members with the GAC card and still try to find ways to bend the rules. They are quick to ask for immediate access and throw a fit if they have waited too long. They hate when an attraction has accommodated them appropriately, but still requires them to be treated equally by standing in line. They are the ones you can't seem to find anything wrong with and take an educated guess that they are cheating the system. Unfortunately, all you can do is smile and let it happen. They want the best treatment and get a temper if they are treated normally or anything but special. This is the largest percentage of GAC users, my guess around 45%.
 

IWantMyMagicBand

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Unfortunately none of those tactics have really worked with him.
Oh dear :( What sort of things help him when waiting in line is unavoidable? My son hates supermarket queues, but there are times where I have to take all three of them so I use a lot of distraction (oooh look at that huge fan in the ceiling, do you think it could suck up all the vegetables?). Yes, I'm that annoying woman lol.
Does he manage to get through bag check ok?
I'm not trying to "catch you out" or anything, but while there is a rational person that experiences difficulties here(you), it would be helpful if you could share tips for other parents that this may affect. There have been too many parents here that are just blowing up at those that are trying to understand why some children cannot queue in ride queues, whereas ride queues are not the only queues in the parks (like M&G, transport, bag check, car park tram, food, parades, etc). What would you propose for the new system? Everyone's input here is valuable, how would it work best for you?
 

Witchy Chick

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My son is autistic and I thought I had read in the first article that the card holder had to be present. Please correct me of I am wrong. If that is not the case then I think the changes will be manageable for our son. My personal concern for his behaviors is the double waiting would be very challenging for him (and therefore us).

I believe the DAS guest needs to be present at the reservations kiosk. Reservations kiosk is not necessarily AT the ride itself. I think there are to be 4-5 kiosks throughout the park (not including guest relations at the park entrances).

The challenge IMO will be at the kiosk in having the CM announce "Ok let's get you a reservation for attraction blah-blah" and having your autistic son overhear.......and not understand you are not immediately getting on attraction blah-blah.

I wonder how kiosk CMs will handle this. It might behoove DAS families to give kiosk CMs a head's up not to mention the attraction by name when dealing with an autistic child who does not understand the "waiting."
 

OswaldTheRabbit

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I believe the DAS guest needs to be present at the reservations kiosk. Reservations kiosk is not necessarily AT the ride itself. I think there are to be 4-5 kiosks throughout the park (not including guest relations at the park entrances).

The challenge IMO will be at the kiosk in having the CM announce "Ok let's get you a reservation for attraction blah-blah" and having your autistic son overhear.......and not understand you are not immediately getting on attraction blah-blah.

I wonder how kiosk CMs will handle this. It might behoove DAS families to give kiosk CMs a head's up not to mention the attraction by name when dealing with an autistic child who does not understand the "waiting."


I agree that having him inline will be a definite issue for us but maybe if my DH can stand "by" the line he will not hear. (Perhaps I can point him out) It will be difficult if he thinks he is in The barnstormer line but only in the DAS queue. He does not have the capacity to understand the difference so the wait time in between will be tough!

I have quite a bit of anxiety for our oct 31 trip but I am hoping if it is rolled out that it will make more sense to us and we can work around his obsessive behaviors! We have been really working hard in "first this.... Then that" with him so if we have more details before we go on how it is going to work then I can practice with him.
 

pixargal

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They just reported the new DAS system on Fox news. They did mention that it will be rolled out on Oct 9 and it was in response to the abuse of the GAC.
 
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