woah woah, I think you need to chill out. I was on your side. I was also stating the difference in Star wars to other franchises. Unless I mistook your humor, maybe you should take your pills that keep your personalities in check.
Well thank your research department for the confirmation...
But the first order seems like a joke... you have all of this power and this might and you make boneheaded mistakes continuously.. it feels like the keystone cops. I mean the first 2 death stars seemed plausible... but like 8 people just destroyed your two biggest ships and you have this huge cannon and all of the new ATATs and people sneak out the back... the whole movie should have ended in the first few scenes when they were blowing the ships up as they left.. or at the end when they landed...
that's funny... I had mentioned to someone months ago he should narrate... I still liked the movie they made though. I looked at it as a book you would read between movies.. it tells the story you don't get in the movies... and your imagination fills in the faces and gaps
You are right on about fatigue, it had zero to do with it. Now the boycotts in my opinion did hurt the movie more than some might think. The boycotts spread the seeds of doubt and that is what the media was focused on. In turn all the casual fan kept hearing was the negative, prompting them to stay away. Trust me, I know it's not the only thing, but I don't believe for a second that it wasn't a factor. Disney/Lucasfilm dropped just about every ball you could on this one.
But the first order seems like a joke... you have all of this power and this might and you make boneheaded mistakes continuously.. it feels like the keystone cops. I mean the first 2 death stars seemed plausible... but like 8 people just destroyed your two biggest ships and you have this huge cannon and all of the new ATATs and people sneak out the back... the whole movie should have ended in the first few scenes when they were blowing the ships up as they left.. or at the end when they landed...
So the first order doesn't scare me the way the empire did (even though they were bumbling... it felt like darth was just there too late or the good guys just escaped.. darth was scary
Kylo in 7 seemed to be all about his grandfather (another plus for episode 7) they dumped that in 8.. "let the past die" he dumps his mask and you don't get that he cares about his bloodline any more.
If we had gotten black/white Anakin like the rumors from 7 and 8 I think 8 could have been twice as good.. and id be more excited for 8 appears to rey as Anakin that's sorry for his mistakes and wants to guide her..... evil Anakin/darth who hates everything good and wants kylo to "finish what he started". He could be talking to them both.. and at the end luke could have helped Anakin resolve his inner battle. Or rey or kylo... maybe kylo kills luke and that makes Anakin totally good and he convinces kylo to turn good... who knows.. but id love to see that story AND it would tie the new trilogy to all the other movies and finish this 9 episode saga.
I'm not looking at it as a fan boy. Although I will say darth isn't as scary after the prequels, but you could tell he was super powerful... what ive noticed as an adult though is how little respect he got from the empire. Kylo is just a brat that ive yet to see him really beat anybody... some guards with Reys help? Of course we didnt see Darth ever do much until rogue one, but that was because of the effects that were possible at the time, and lucas saw it more like sword fighting and errol Flynn or zoro style movies, than what it became later. You say Rian Johnson wanted to show more of the universe I ask you .. Did he? I mean we see canto bight, but nothing besides that (an abandoned salt base doesn't really count). I would have loved some side stories of other worlds characters, I didn't feel that. In fact we prob met less new characters and worlds than any other star wars movie. I think Rian threw away everything Darth vader outside of snoke making fun of kylo. Rian did a disservice to star wars, yes it wasn't the movie I wanted but I was open to any story as long as it drove the story somewhere... IN MY OPINION it didn't drive the story anywhere just ended interesting arcs. What new character did we get? What new struggle did we get? What did we lose?
Although I doubt we will ever get clarification unless they make a snoke comic or movie some day (btw I don't read the comics). Was snoke using Darths helmet to speak to kylo. In Ep.7 he clearly acts like the helmet or a spirit has talked to him in the past... was this snoke. Anyhoo... off to Disney ride threads.
