Club Cooloholic
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Which are?My basic principles
Which are?My basic principles
I would say of you can't or won't articulate them, you might be confusing "principals" for something else.Does it matter?
Well you said you and your family are vaccinated, but you cancelled your cruise because of some sort of principal? I was seriously trying to understand what that principal was. That putting people on a ship in close quarters with a highly contagious disease that can be highly mitigated by vaccination and thus a private company requiring vaccines is something you just can't condone, I guess I am dumbfounded what principals can be made to come to that conclusion. If anything I would hope requiring vaccines might open the door to no masks on the ship in the future. My local school also requires various vaccinations for children to attend...I guess your principals would go against that too.I can assure you, I am acutely aware of the definitions pertaining to personal principles vs passionate opinions / beliefs. Your attempt at baiting me with the idea I either “can’t or won’t share” could only mean I’m confused is condescending at best. I’m not taking your bait. The irony displayed here is palpable.
Well you said you and your family are vaccinated, but you cancelled your cruise because of some sort of principal? I was seriously trying to understand what that principal was. That putting people on a ship in close quarters with a highly contagious disease that can be highly mitigated by vaccination and thus a private company requiring vaccines is something you just can't condone, I guess I am dumbfounded what principals can be made to come to that conclusion.
Mindy needs to realize that it has nothing to do with the private company. DCL’s mandate to be vaccinated exists because they wouldn’t be able to sail otherwise. The mandate is due to governments not a private company.Mindy's issue (as far as my understanding) is not about being vaccinated, but is about DCL's mandate to be vaccinated. She doesn't think a private company should compel people to be vaccinated before using their product.
Personally, I would like to see this particular topic die a quick death within this thread. Nobody is going to convince anybody else that their position is right or wrong by arguing about it in a discussion forum. Mindy's out on cruising DCL for now. Let's just say "Godspeed and stay healthy" and leave it that. JMO
Just to clarify, this is not accurate. The Bahamian law only requires ages 12 and older on cruise ships to be vaccinated. After that, yes, you have to be on an excursion if not vaccinated for ports of calls, but not the private islands. After DCL made their announcement, Celebrity Cruises made a similar one, only to place it "on hold" a week later. Was told by someone who works there, they didn't expect as many cancellations as they got. And Celebrity is not known as a family cruise line.I think that is where a lot of people are misinformed about the truth. The Bahamian government mandated that anyone exiting a ship at one of their islands, including the private islands like Castaway Cay, MUST be vaccinated. It wasn't Disney making the decisions, but you are acting like they had a choice, when they did not have a choice. Well, ok, they could have chosen to not sail at all, but that certainly isn't a choice at all for a cruise line.
I have two cruises on DCL this summer. Can you get an unofficial feeling for any staff how they feel the summer will go?We’re currwntly onboard the Fantasy and we can tell the noticeable difference in the crowd level. I personally think it is the right call but that’s just me. I can’t speak for others beliefs. I can say I’ve never had a more enjoyable cruise from a crowd level perspective.
So this was our second Disney cruise during Covid. The first was back in September. The sentiments have been consistent and they feel like cruising will be different for a while with masks and all the additional Covid measures. We got the feeling that lower capacity will still be a major concern. But everyone was just happy to be back on board and working. Hope this helped.I have two cruises on DCL this summer. Can you get an unofficial feeling for any staff how they feel the summer will go?
Thanks for your reply. I can deal with reduced crowds and masks. I, like many, don’t want another cancellation.So this was our second Disney cruise during Covid. The first was back in September. The sentiments have been consistent and they feel like cruising will be different for a while with masks and all the additional Covid measures. We got the feeling that lower capacity will still be a major concern. But everyone was just happy to be back on board and working. Hope this helped.
Kids club hours are still limited, yes?So this was our second Disney cruise during Covid. The first was back in September. The sentiments have been consistent and they feel like cruising will be different for a while with masks and all the additional Covid measures. We got the feeling that lower capacity will still be a major concern. But everyone was just happy to be back on board and working. Hope this helped.
Fascinating. I thought for sure we'd see a tightening of the vaccination requirements and a loosening or elimination of testing, but they went the other direction.Update beginning September 2nd -
Beginning September 2, 2022, for sailings departing US and Canadian ports, Disney Cruise Line will require Guests ages 12 and older to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 at the time of sailing, as defined by the CDC. In consideration of CDC guidance, Disney Cruise Line highly recommends that Guests ages 11 and younger be fully vaccinated before sailing.
Just got the email in this. They still require pre cruise testing for vaccinated. BooUpdate beginning September 2nd -
Beginning September 2, 2022, for sailings departing US and Canadian ports, Disney Cruise Line will require Guests ages 12 and older to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 at the time of sailing, as defined by the CDC. In consideration of CDC guidance, Disney Cruise Line highly recommends that Guests ages 11 and younger be fully vaccinated before sailing.
Such a terrible customer service play IMO. People hate the testing. They like the vaccination requirement.Just got the email in this. They still require pre cruise testing for vaccinated. Boo
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Not a tremendous change considering the changes by some of the other big lines like Royal Caribbean, Norwegian and the other lines under their companies. I think Disney is just waiting to see what happens and what arrangements other lines can make with other countries before doing anything further. MarieUpdate beginning September 2nd -
Beginning September 2, 2022, for sailings departing US and Canadian ports, Disney Cruise Line will require Guests ages 12 and older to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 at the time of sailing, as defined by the CDC. In consideration of CDC guidance, Disney Cruise Line highly recommends that Guests ages 11 and younger be fully vaccinated before sailing.
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