Matt_Black
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I don't mean to disrespect, it's just that he's voiced the same opinion over and over for three months now.
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I don't mean to disrespect, it's just that he's voiced the same opinion over and over for three months now.
Yeah I understand, I don't like a lot of movies and films many are talking about in other threads, sure I may post once or twice in disagreement which is fair and fine. But I don't integrate myself in almost every thread the film is being discussed and slam it just about every page or so and let everyone know how much I hate it. Like I get you may not like the film and that's fine, I just don't need to be reminded of that every on every page of almost every different thread discussing this film.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Yeah, and Lion King is a totally original concept that didn't borrow from anything that came before it.
Matt_Black
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Yeah, and Lion King is a totally original concept that didn't borrow from anything that came before it.
"Kimba the what what? Never heard of it. This is... uh... Hamlet. Furry jungle Hamlet."
Also, I'm curious as to just how many times Magenta Panther thinks Disney borrowed from Wicked. Frozen, Oz the Great and Powerful maybe, that's all of TWICE, those cheats! (Pixar is constantly remaking stuff, but somehow they get a pass. Cars is Doc Hollywood, Brave is Brother Bear, A Bug's Life is The Magnificent Seven, etc.)
Bairstow
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...and those are the three weakest Pixar movies.
Oh, and you forgot Cars 2 which is basically The Man Called Flintstone.
I think bugs life is a sold entry in their canon, but brave really is just brother bear.
Animaniac93-98
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Yeah, and Lion King is a totally original concept that didn't borrow from anything that came before it.
"You must avenge my death, Kimba..."
SpectroMan93
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Frozen's march toward's $1 billion is well on track, with a worldwide total of $955.7 million after this weekend. Should be able to make this without the opening in Japan, and with Japan still well on the way, could pass $1.1 billion to become the highest grossing animated film worldwide.
It should cross that mark soon, I am getting excited. It would be the first in the animated canon to do so! At least from WDAS.
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Magenta Panther
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Yeah, and Lion King is a totally original concept that didn't borrow from anything that came before it.
Oh, you mean "Kimba the White Lion." Which of course I have no knowledge about despite the fact that I already brought that up in another thread.
. You're so clever!Really, I'm happy about the success of "Frozen". It's struck a chord, and it's a hit, and that's great. But it's still IMO a mediocre film. Deal with it.
RandomPrincess
Keep Moving Forward
Frozen just won the BAFTA (The British Academy of Film and Television Arts ) for best Animated Movie
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Oh, you mean "Kimba the White Lion." Which of course I have no knowledge about despite the fact that I already brought that up in another thread.
Really, I'm happy about the success of "Frozen". It's struck a chord, and it's a hit, and that's great. But it's still IMO a mediocre film. Deal with it.
I was actually thinking of Hamlet.
Matt_Black
Well-Known Member
I'm reminded of that scene in Lady & the Tramp where Trusty is asking if he ever told that one story and Jock says, "Aye, ya have, laddy. Frequently."
SpectroMan93
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The Golden Globe, the Annie, and now the BAFTA. Looks pretty much poised to take the Oscar on March 2nd. And with Idina Menzel performing, Frozen will be well represented.
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danlb_2000
Premium Member
It's interesting, this will be the 8th year that all four of those awards had a best animated feature category, and this is only the third time the GG, Bafta and Annie have all picked the same movie, the other two were Up and Ratatouille and both also got the Oscar. Bafta seems to be the best predictor of the Oscar since they both picked the same movie all 7 years.
RandomPrincess
Keep Moving Forward
I'm not super worried about the best animated film votes. I'm worried about best song!
Disneyfanman
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Me too. U2 has a huge following and it's connected to a very emotional topic. Honestly, it's a toss-up.
http://johnaugust.com/2014/scriptnotes-ep-128-frozen-with-jennifer-lee-transcript
Wow for any fan of the film I suggest you give this a read, fantastic interview with jennifer lee giving a huge insight to the creative script process of the film.
Personally my favorite line from the interview
At what point did Hans become a villain? And, I mean –
Jennifer: [laughs] Hans is a villain from the minute he hits her with the horse, in my mind.
Aline: Really?
Jennifer: But I am slightly a sociopath, I think. He’s just calculating from that moment.
So, I had to literally walk through every scene, what’s going on in his head for real, and at least I could — like when he says, the first time when he finds out she’s princess and drops to his knees. Before that she’s just a girl. But the key moment is when she says, “It’s just me.” And he goes, “Just you?”
And that’s like inside he’s going, “Ooh, you don’t think very highly of yourself, do you? Well, I’m gonna…”
Aline: Terrific. Great news for a narcissist.
Jennifer: It’s all very sick and twisted deep down.
John: But clearly he’s a very talented sociopath.
Jennifer: He’s very talented. He’s charming. He mirrors everyone. And actually the original story had a lot to do with mirrors. And in many iterations of the story we talk about mirrors and we bring them up. And so I held on a little to that, what Hans is is a mirror as a lot of charming, but hallow or sociopathic.
Aline: That it’s like she’s falling in love with her reflection in the pond, yeah.
Jennifer: Yeah, exactly. And he mirrors her and he’s goofy with her. He’s a little bit more bold and aggressive with the Duke, because the Duke is a jerk, so he’s a jerk back. And with Elsa he’s a hero.
And it seems in earlier drafts olaf was mean and well Jennifer Lee didn't like him read on
Jennifer: The thing about Olaf is he was by far, for me, the hardest character to deal with. And I say that because when I came on, when I went to see a screening, people are going to hate me, when I saw the screening — I wasn’t on the project yet — every time he appeared I wrote, “Kill the f-ing snowman.” I just wrote kill him. I hate him. I hate him.
And part of it was, you know, we didn’t have Josh yet. And that’s a huge thing, obviously. And it wasn’t the scratch artist, he was great, but it was that he was — he wanted to be a shoulder because Elsa had these guards. He was half-good and half-bad. He was acerbic. He was a little, I don’t know, he just was kind of mean at times. And I didn’t know why he existed and I didn’t like him.
Wow for any fan of the film I suggest you give this a read, fantastic interview with jennifer lee giving a huge insight to the creative script process of the film.
Personally my favorite line from the interview
At what point did Hans become a villain? And, I mean –
Jennifer: [laughs] Hans is a villain from the minute he hits her with the horse, in my mind.
Aline: Really?
Jennifer: But I am slightly a sociopath, I think. He’s just calculating from that moment.
So, I had to literally walk through every scene, what’s going on in his head for real, and at least I could — like when he says, the first time when he finds out she’s princess and drops to his knees. Before that she’s just a girl. But the key moment is when she says, “It’s just me.” And he goes, “Just you?”
And that’s like inside he’s going, “Ooh, you don’t think very highly of yourself, do you? Well, I’m gonna…”
Aline: Terrific. Great news for a narcissist.
Jennifer: It’s all very sick and twisted deep down.
John: But clearly he’s a very talented sociopath.
Jennifer: He’s very talented. He’s charming. He mirrors everyone. And actually the original story had a lot to do with mirrors. And in many iterations of the story we talk about mirrors and we bring them up. And so I held on a little to that, what Hans is is a mirror as a lot of charming, but hallow or sociopathic.
Aline: That it’s like she’s falling in love with her reflection in the pond, yeah.
Jennifer: Yeah, exactly. And he mirrors her and he’s goofy with her. He’s a little bit more bold and aggressive with the Duke, because the Duke is a jerk, so he’s a jerk back. And with Elsa he’s a hero.
And it seems in earlier drafts olaf was mean and well Jennifer Lee didn't like him read on
Jennifer: The thing about Olaf is he was by far, for me, the hardest character to deal with. And I say that because when I came on, when I went to see a screening, people are going to hate me, when I saw the screening — I wasn’t on the project yet — every time he appeared I wrote, “Kill the f-ing snowman.” I just wrote kill him. I hate him. I hate him.
And part of it was, you know, we didn’t have Josh yet. And that’s a huge thing, obviously. And it wasn’t the scratch artist, he was great, but it was that he was — he wanted to be a shoulder because Elsa had these guards. He was half-good and half-bad. He was acerbic. He was a little, I don’t know, he just was kind of mean at times. And I didn’t know why he existed and I didn’t like him.