Frozen ride replacing Maelstrom?

[lazyboy97o]

Well, I thought I already gave it a few pages back:
You know, making the joke about that big press ceremony two and a half weeks ago, when the Disney representative came out in front of the assembled press and fans and announced Harambe Nights at AK, and showed some more concept art from Avatar Land because they didn't have any more to show from it, and they did some promotion for Typhoon Lagoon's rehab, talked some more about SDMT and the arm bands, and strangely...suspiciously, I think...said ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about their big Frozen plans that would have involved a million-dollar outlay, huge expected audience reactions, and a major overhaul of one of their existing areas.
Apparently, it was not a topic for discussion yet, even though it was so clearly in the planning stages twenty days ago. Possibly because they weren't ready to announce it yet, because they knew there would be such angry fan objection to it, that they'd sneak it up on us, the way they closed Mr. Toad!

Yyyyep--Works. For. Me.

Are just too dense to understand that Disney tends to work on projects before they announce them? . Construction documents do not draw themselves over night. That's how Disney is able to start construction relatively soon after announcing a project. Bay Lake Tower was almost to its full heigh before it was announced, but by your standards all that steel rising a hundred plus feet in the air didn't exist.

 

[dadddio]

So other than the word of trusted insiders, what do you expect as "proof"? You know as well as anyone that an insider is not going to reveal his sources.

Is it too pedantic to point out that an actual insider would not need sources because he would be, you know, inside? That's not what we have here. We have people who claim to know someone inside, but of course we don't dare ask who or the nature of the relationship. Then these insiders always get the freedom to be completely and totally wrong because to here them tell it, Disney frequently spends big bucks on greenlit projects and then cancels them without ever actually announcing them to anyone other than some soccer mom blogger's next door neighbor's brother in law who drives a bus for Disney.

 

[EricJ]

Are just too dense to understand that Disney tends to work on projects before they announce them? .

(And, in Avatar's case, announces them years before they work on them, if they think the very act of announcing it will ride current audience popularity.
Come to that, we don't even have the Frozen on Ice show yet either, and even THAT'S getting headlines.)

 

[lazyboy97o]

Is it too pedantic to point out that an actual insider would not need sources because he would be, you know, inside? That's not what we have here. We have people who claim to know someone inside, but of course we don't dare ask who or the nature of the relationship. Then these insiders always get the freedom to be completely and totally wrong because to here them tell it, Disney frequently spends big bucks on greenlit projects and then cancels them without ever actually announcing them to anyone other than some soccer mom blogger's next door neighbor's brother in law who drives a bus for Disney.

Those who are repeatedly wrong are laughed at on their way out.

 

[dadddio]

But the point is that they currently are not filling up right now as evidenced by him being able to book for tomorrow.

The mere fact that tables are available the day before before doesn't mean that any tables went unfilled.

 

[unkadug]

Are just too dense to understand that Disney tends to work on projects before they announce them? . Construction documents do not draw themselves over night. That's how Disney is able to start construction relatively soon after announcing a project. Bay Lake Tower was almost to its full heigh before it was announced, but by your standards all that steel rising a hundred plus feet in the air didn't exist.

Even Disney denied the BLT's very existence until a few weeks before it opened.

 

[lazyboy97o]

(And, in Avatar's case, announces them years before they work on them, if they think the very act of announcing it will ride current audience popularity.
Come to that, we don't even have the ice show yet either, and even THAT'S getting headlines.)

Seems odd you can't make a main counter point and have to post an aside.

 

[GoofGoof]

Is it too obvious to point out that an actual insider would not need sources because he would be, you know, inside? That's not what we have here. We have people who claim to know someone inside, but of course we don't dare ask who or the nature of the relationship. Then these insiders always get the freedom to be completely and totally wrong because to here them tell it, Disney frequently spends big bucks on greenlit projects and then cancels them without ever actually announcing them to anyone other than some soccer mom blogger's next door neighbor's brother in law who drives a bus for Disney.

So why bother posting in this section then? If nobody is an insider and nobody has any real info what's the point? If that's true there are some good guessers around here. Disney is notorious for having problems keeping things secret. It's conceivable that multiple people know a lot of what is potentially going on but don't want to risk their sources or their own jobs.

 

[Nemo14]

Is it too pedantic to point out that an actual insider would not need sources because he would be, you know, inside? That's not what we have here. We have people who claim to know someone inside, but of course we don't dare ask who or the nature of the relationship. Then these insiders always get the freedom to be completely and totally wrong because to here them tell it, Disney frequently spends big bucks on greenlit projects and then cancels them without ever actually announcing them to anyone other than some soccer mom blogger's next door neighbor's brother in law who drives a bus for Disney.

No, we have some very well-connected people here who know better than to betray the trust and respect that they have earned.

 

[EricJ]

No, we have some very well-connected people here who know better than to betray the trust and respect that they have earned.

Namely, by TELLING us they're well-connected and respected, by not betraying any details that would hint at why. Well...We're not inside. Who are we to dispute them?

 

[dadddio]

Those who are repeatedly wrong are laughed at on their way out.

A thousand incorrect FP+ predictions suggest otherwise.

 

[dadddio]

So why bother posting in this section then? If nobody is an insider and nobody has any real info what's the point? If that's true there are some good guessers around here. Disney is notorious for having problems keeping things secret. It's conceivable that multiple people know a lot of what is potentially going on but don't want to risk their sources or their own jobs.

Outsiders aren't at risk of losing their jobs if they tell how they heard something.

 

[GoofGoof]

Namely, by TELLING us they're well-connected and respected, by not betraying any details that would hint at why. Well...We're not inside. Who are we to dispute them?

History. You have been here a month and are convinced that nobody has inside information. Having been here longer I can tell you some do.

 

[danlb_2000]

Outsiders aren't at risk of losing their jobs if they tell how they heard something.

But the person they got the information from is at risk if they do.

 

[Nemo14]

Namely, by TELLING us they're well-connected and respected, by not betraying any details that would hint at why. Well...We're not inside. Who are we to dispute them?

No, by proven track records. There have been some who claim to be insiders who have been laughed off these forums. It doesn't take much to reveal their true colors. But the 2 you are so bent out of shape about are certainly not in that category.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Outsiders aren't at risk of losing their jobs if they tell how they heard something.

They just risk the jobs of those who share with them.

 

[dadddio]

History. You have been here a month and are convinced that nobody has inside information. Having been here longer I can tell you some do.

I'm willing to wait and let history decide. If they do away with the Norway pavilion and replace it with an Arendelle pavilion, then that guy is an insider. If not, he's not.

 

[GoofGoof]

Outsiders aren't at risk of losing their jobs if they tell how they heard something.

They will quickly lose whatever sources they have. Some could lose their jobs too. If you work for a company that does business with Disney and happen upon some info and make it public and get caught your company may lose Disney's business and you are probably fired. It's not that hard to understand, is it?

 

[dadddio]

They will quickly lose whatever sources they have. Some could lose their jobs too. If you work for a company that does business with Disney and happen upon some info and make it public and get caught your company may lose Disney's business and you are probably fired. It's not that hard to understand, is it?

Ummm, a person who inappropriately releases confidential information actually should be terminated. Such a person is also somewhat unlikely to achieve the type of leadership position that would give them access to some of the so-called insider info.

 

[GoofGoof]

I'm willing to wait and let history decide. If they do away with the Norway pavilion and replace it with an Arendelle pavilion, then that guy is an insider. If not, he's not.

I thought he said the Arendelle thing was value engineered out and they were just redoing the ride.