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Frozen ride replacing Maelstrom?
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He actually went both ways. Clarification questions were asked a number of times giving the opportunity to back away from the crazy, but he doubled down instead.
GoofGoof
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I didn't say they shouldn't. But we all want inside information so if the way to get it is to "trust" some people to share with us what they probably shouldn't then that's what we do.
EricJ
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And--unlike the Frozen 3D Blu-ray dispute--if it turns out the Terrible Rumor "mysteriously" doesn't happen after all, let us hopefully not be fourth-grader defensive and say "Ha, see?...The power of our united fandom SCARED THEM OUT of their plans at the last minute!"
Which is certainly more than I expect from our "insider", who will no doubt say somebody else gave him a bum steer, but that he has plenty more scoops in the pipeline to share with us...Uh, without giving too much sensitive critical sources away, of course.
danlb_2000
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One insider that I learned to trust early on was @Lee, specially because of this:
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/what-i-think-as-of-today-for-now.621259/
He provided pretty accurate details of the changes to the Fantasyland Expansion over four months before if was officially announced. These details where to close to reality to be a luck guess.
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/what-i-think-as-of-today-for-now.621259/
He provided pretty accurate details of the changes to the Fantasyland Expansion over four months before if was officially announced. These details where to close to reality to be a luck guess.
GoofGoof
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Here's his last post before 10 pages of nonsense (I take responsibility for part of that):
Based on that post it sounds like the plan is the same ride with a Frozen overlay.
unkadug
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To all you newbies that question everything that everyone says, what exactly is your purpose in continuing to harangue those who want to hear this type of information.
Do you not have enough friends on Facebook and Twitter to harass that you have to come here to get your daily recommended allowance of trolling?
If you don't like what you read then find a new thread.
Do you not have enough friends on Facebook and Twitter to harass that you have to come here to get your daily recommended allowance of trolling?
If you don't like what you read then find a new thread.
Or, he won't. Whichever....And--unlike the Frozen 3D Blu-ray dispute--if it turns out the Terrible Rumor "mysteriously" doesn't happen after all, let us hopefully not be fourth-grader defensive and say "Ha, see?...The power of our united fandom SCARED THEM OUT of their plans at the last minute!"
Which is certainly more than I expect from our "insider", who will no doubt say somebody else gave him a bum steer, but that he has plenty more scoops in the pipeline to share with us...Uh, without giving too much sensitive critical sources away, of course.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Bravo.
Rodan75
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Wow. Talk about sucking up all of the oxygen in the room. @EricJ you are taking all of this too seriously.
@HTF drops that Ratatouille is under consideration for WS, then @pheneix and @WDW1974 both drop that Norway-Arrendale is a go. At the very least this means that WDI is seriously considering forever changing what most consider the purpose of Epcot.
@EricJ seems to think discussing this possibility will make it happen. I disagree. But I understand his concern.
This looks and feels like easy defensive moves to freshen Epcot and increase merch spending at the park. Basic business motive, the type of stuff folks have been asking for, for years. Yes there are other things they can and should do, however, nothing that would be as cheap and profitable as adding Frozen and the Rat to WS.
@HTF drops that Ratatouille is under consideration for WS, then @pheneix and @WDW1974 both drop that Norway-Arrendale is a go. At the very least this means that WDI is seriously considering forever changing what most consider the purpose of Epcot.
@EricJ seems to think discussing this possibility will make it happen. I disagree. But I understand his concern.
This looks and feels like easy defensive moves to freshen Epcot and increase merch spending at the park. Basic business motive, the type of stuff folks have been asking for, for years. Yes there are other things they can and should do, however, nothing that would be as cheap and profitable as adding Frozen and the Rat to WS.
I guess that we just have a different definition of trolling. In my opinion, someone who drops a rumor that they are actually going to do away with an entire pavilion in World Showcase and replace it with a pavilion for a fictional kingdom is probably trolling. If he left it as a Frozen themed ride, gift shop, and meet and greet, I'd buy it, but going all the way to renaming the country in WS from Norway to Arendelle took it all the way to trolling, for me.
EricJ
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That raises the key question: Why do we, and I'm using your word, WANT to hear it? Why is questioning it "trolling", and such people clearly "bad" or "inexperienced" in doing it, when our good prophet-of-doom is clearly so to be admired in his unassailable credibility presenting us with the object of our worst nightmares?
Why are some here so determined to defend--against all argument, and even to the point of personal attack--something they clearly say they don't want? Are we that comforted by our fears and cynicism that we're even more afraid to give them up, if the opportunity permits? Is rationality and logical argument only here to "spoil the fun"?
Are we not only prisoners of our own resentment toward the company, but our own jailor-dogs holding the keys in our mouths as well?
Next Big Thing
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I think they would rather them filled 6 months out like at CRT than there being a chance of losing out on money.
Because some feel the need to go beyond questioning into the realm of the obsessive. Particularly when their posts are ignored as a consequence....
WDW1974 never posted that they are going to remake Norway into Arendelle. That was all phoenix. WDW1974 merely stated that they will do something Frozen in Epcot and stated that he'll share more when he returns from vacation.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Because there is a big difference between what most of us want Disney to do and what we believe the will or could do.
EricJ
Active Member
Which brings me to my point, oft accused of "trolling": Even at Disney, Believing Doesn't Make It SO.
They have a Fantasy land, but there's no need to bring your own fantasy world.
GiveMeTheMusic
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OMG - are you for real? Chill out dude. As Elsa would say...let it go. You think the rumor is false? Fine. We get it. You don't believe it. Find a different thread that's not titled "Frozen ride replacing Maelstrom". The point of this thread is to discuss that rumor and its repercussions. Perhaps you can start your own thread titled "Frozen ride NOT replacing Maelstrom".
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck
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