Frozen ride replacing Maelstrom?

[rle4lunch]

Really? Maelstrom is a classic Disney dark ride, and it fits perfectly in World Showcase. Everything needs cleaning and mechanical/electrical upgrades from time to time, and effects upgrades are always good, but a minute and a half of crap? No way. What EPCOT is missing is leadership who understands the value of a high quality attraction versus the perceived value of forcing some currently popular IP into an existing ride that doesn't need to be cartoonified.

From the other side of the argument: Frozen just won best animated film...and all it would get is a rethemed ride that was built in 1988? For the Frozen champions inside Disney, they should push for a new ride somewhere that it makes sense (like Fantasyland). Even Tangled got a bathroom in Fantasyland...and all Frozen gets is an overlay on a 26 year old ride? That seems too little for Frozen. "You just won the Super Bowl MVP, and now you get a used, 26 year old Chevrolet Cavalier that we re-painted and replaced the tape deck with a CD player!"

Either way, leave Maelstrom alone. If it is important to have Frozen in the parks, figure out somewhere else that it could go, with a custom designed attraction that does the film justice.

You hit the nail on the head with "You just won the Super Bowl MVP, and now you get a used, 26 year old Chevrolet Cavalier that we re-painted and replaced the tape deck with a CD player!"

I'm sorry, but I had visited Epcot a dozen times before I accidently stumbled upon that sorry excuse for a ride. There isn't any semblence to a story line, it's far too short to even be worth the wait times, and the promotionl tie-in at the end is shameful, even for a Disney ride. It's junk thru and thru. No one wants to hear the stupid "conservation" video at the end, let alone be dumped into a shop that is always fuming with overbearing scents of European colognes and musks, just so we can sneeze and sniffle our way to the exit. The ride is dumb.

I'm not saying that Frozen should be the only option for that space, but there should be a re-imagining of that ride into something that is actually Disney cailber. But alas, Epcot is the bast#rd step-child as of late, so I doubt it'll get anything worthy as replacement.

 

[PrincessNelly_NJ]

Not exactly facing stiff competition

Despicable Me 2 and the Croods were both great movies.

 

[Jose]

Any news? Are we getting the ride or not?

 

[rioriz]

I'm surprised we have not heard from any of the insiders on this...

 

[aladdin2007]

I'm surprised we have not heard from any of the insiders on this...

spirit has stated a bare bones retheme of Maelstrom has been pitched, but apparently that is as far as it has gone.

 

[NowInc]

*sigh* I highly doubt they will announce a new ride/replacement the day after just because it won an oscar. Relax everyone

 

[bhg469]

*sigh* I highly doubt they will announce a new ride/replacement the day after just because it won an oscar. Relax everyone

No they will wait until 3 years from now, when no one cares about it anymore. I swear, people keep asking for movie tie ins in Epcot and that will be the end of that whole park. I was there last night and I thought one of the best parts about morocco was that people had to search out Aladdin, it wasn't shoved in your face.

 

[NoChesterHester]

No they will wait until 3 years from now, when no one cares about it anymore. I swear, people keep asking for movie tie ins in Epcot and that will be the end of that whole park. I was there last night and I thought one of the best parts about morocco was that people had to search out Aladdin, it wasn't shoved in your face.

Sure, but that alone illustrates the fallacy of the whole "shove it into world showcase" idea.

Morocco is in North Africa. Aladdin takes place in ancient Persia, present day Iran.

 

[Matt_Black]

Sure, but that alone illustrates the fallacy of the whole "shove it into world showcase" idea.

Morocco is in North Africa. Aladdin takes place in ancient Persia, present day Iran.

No, Aladdin takes place in Agrabah, a fictional country that draws on many nations as inspiration.

 

[xdan0920]

Not exactly facing stiff competition

Hayao Miyazaki.

 

[raymusiccity]

Frozen just won Best Animated Feature!!!!

Not exactly facing stiff competition

Hayao Miyazaki.

Yes. I'll bow to that one. A true genius. Who else could tackle the story of the man who designed the Zero?(Japanese fighter plane)!

 

[lazyboy97o]

Sure, but that alone illustrates the fallacy of the whole "shove it into world showcase" idea.

Morocco is in North Africa. Aladdin takes place in ancient Persia, present day Iran.

No, Aladdin takes place in Agrabah, a fictional country that draws on many nations as inspiration.

The film takes place in Arabia. It is said right at the start in the first song.

 

[JenniferS]

Looks like Frozen will catch Despicable Me 2 next week and surpass it as the highest grossing animated film of 2013, which is an incredible feat considering how DM2 is already an established brand. So take that Uni!....

Saw them both. Liked them both.

Here's the difference - saw DM2 three times; saw Frozen once.
Hubby was quite willing to see DM2 again. He hated Frozen.

And yes, it may be "Let it Go" that I walk around singing very badly, but it's Minion merchandise that I seek. I have a Minion figurine sitting on my desk at work. I have a Minion case for my iPhone. And I have a Minion ring tone, that I actually paid for.

I think Uni is quite happy with the success of the DM franchise. And me, I can't wait for the Minion movie - sadly postponed from Christmas 2014 to Spring 2015.

 

[Matt_Black]

The film takes place in Arabia. It is said right at the start in the first song.

Did... Did you miss all the instances were they refer to kingdom as Agrabah?!?

 

[SirNim]

JØTUL should get in on the action and slightly modify their sign hanging over the disembarkation dock (is the sign even still there? I have no idea):

FROZEN?
You don't have to be!

JØTUL
Fine Cast-Iron Stoves
Since 1853​

 

[lazyboy97o]

Did... Did you miss all the instances were they refer to kingdom as Agrabah?!?

Arabia is a region, not a state. Agrabah is in Arabia.

 

[Matt_Black]

Yeah, and the original story of Aladdin that takes place in the original translations of The Arabian Nights, took place in China. Is China in Arabia?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Yeah, and the original story of Aladdin that takes place in the original translations of The Arabian Nights, took place in China. Is China in Arabia?

So? The film specifically mentions Arabia as the region in which Agrabah is located.

 

[Matt_Black]

So? The film specifically mentions Arabia as the region in which Agrabah is located.

Actually, no it doesn't. The actual lyrics are this-

Oh I come from a land, from a faraway place
Where the caravan camels roam
Where it's flat and immense
And the heat is intense
It's barbaric, but hey, it's home

When the wind's from the east
And the sun's from the west
And the sand in the glass is right
Come on down
Stop on by
Hop a carpet and fly
To another Arabian night

Arabian nights
Like Arabian days
More often than not
Are hotter than hot
In a lotta good ways

Arabian nights
'Neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
Could fall and fall hard
Out there on the dunes

The song is sung by the Peddler, the narrator of the story, and he says it's HIS home. He does not say that Arabia is the area where Agrabah is and, even if he did, he's an unreliable narrator at best (remember, he's telling you this story so you buy the crappy lamp he's trying to foist off on you).

 

[dstrawn9889]

another bit part that robin williams did for the movie