Frozen ride replacing Maelstrom?

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MikeTaylorSound

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I don't understand this at all. If the rumor is that they're going to be replacing the Great Movie Ride with a new Frozen attraction that has the Ratatouille technology, why would they need to have another Frozen presence, especially in EPCOT? DHS and their attendance boost from the Frozen Summer has most likely wavered any doubt from the execs to not make changes there.

Like some have said on this thread, capacity for Maelstrom is only 1000 riders per hour, and it's usually 20-70 min wait times in standby (ultimately, depending on season), so there's no need to warrant a makeover that would create more interest there-that would just make it Soarin' v2.0 a la wait times (i.e., 120 min wait for a 3.5 minute ride including load time). If you want to expand Norway, there's room. Just expand, don't change.
 
BigTxEars

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Not sure of the ride but you should the see the Frozen merchandise hitting retail this Christmas season....BOOM!!!!

Going to be everywhere....

and a special edition re-release of the DVD...

The girls are not going away this year :)
 
Californian Elitist

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squidward said:
Not sure why people are denying this. Walt said this himself. It was during the same interview seen in One Man's Dream where Walt describes how he came up with the idea for Disneyland.
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Walt Disney came up with the idea of Disneyland while watching his daughters have fun at Griffith Park in California. He wanted to create a park where the entire family could have fun. It's not like Walt was thinking to himself, Disneyland will surely promote everything that comes from the studio.

As lazyboy already said, the television shows, particularly Disneyland, were created for investment reasons. Think about it, if Disneyland was really created to fund the shows and films that came from the studio, don't you think at least the majority of the attractions would have been based on them? What would be the point of Main Street, Jungle Cruise, Autopia and others?
 
jensenrick

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Turtle said:
Predicting it right now. Frozen takes over Maelstrom is announced on September 2nd with the Frozen TV special.
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There's gonna be a TV special?!? YEA!
I'm just hoping they extend the "Frozen Summer" past the summer time, so I can see the new entertainment. Frozen sing-a-long sounds Awesome, and the parade is adorable!
 
squidward

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raven24 said:
Walt Disney came up with the idea of Disneyland while watching his daughters have fun at Griffith Park in California. He wanted to create a park where the entire family could have fun. It's not like Walt was thinking to himself, Disneyland will surely promote everything that comes from the studio.

As lazyboy already said, the television shows, particularly Disneyland, were created for investment reasons. Think about it, if Disneyland was really created to fund the shows and films that came from the studio, don't you think at least the majority of the attractions would have been based on them? What would be the point of Main Street, Jungle Cruise, Autopia and others?
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What was the point of Peter Pan, Snow White or Pinocchio?

I didn't say every attraction was supposed to promote the movies. Many were obviously.

Not sure what else I can say. I've posted 2 articles backing this up. I could go on but it seems like you have your mind made up that none of it is true. Just not sure why.
 
Californian Elitist

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squidward said:
What was the point of Peter Pan, Snow White or Pinocchio?

I didn't say every attraction was supposed to promote the movies. Many were obviously.

Not sure what else I can say. I've posted 2 articles backing this up. I could go on but it seems like you have your mind made up that none of it is true. Just not sure why.
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Pinocchio's Daring Journey opened in 1983. What would have been the need to promote Peter Pan and Snow White and the Seven Dwarves when Pan was released two years prior and Snow was released eighteen years prior before Disneyland's opening?

I've read plenty of information in regards to how Disneyland came about and why, and it wasn't to promote the studios.
 
Fox&Hound

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Mike S said:
It would make more sense if they would just finally go ahead with a Pixar Place expansion. A full land themed to Pixar would make perfect sense in a movie themed Disney park. I still say Disney should take notes from Universal going forward with DHS. Just have the park filled with highly themed and immersive franchise based lands. It's a park themed to Hollywood after all, pretty much a guarantee that all rides would be tied to an existing franchise in some way.
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I always wondered how difficult it would be to make the streets of America themed to Monster's Inc? Like having the monsters looking out of windows or meet and greet with Mike and Sully back there? Then they can keep SOA and Osbourne and maybe use the old theatre back there for a show. Would love to see the door coaster, MU book store, and Monsters Inc Laugh Floor back there. MILF (haha, I know) would do well at the Studios I think as there is limited stuff for the little ones to do.

Back on topic, I really hope Disney does not destroy Frozen's popularity by shoving it down everyone's throat and angering guests by taking out "classics" (to some) and replacing with Frozen. It was good, but was no Tangled, IMHO.
 
lazyboy97o

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squidward said:
Feel free to Google an article you prefer. Not quite sure why you find this so hard to believe.

http://www.plosin.com/beatbegins/projects/fischer.html

This one less sloppy?
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squidward said:
What was the point of Peter Pan, Snow White or Pinocchio?

I didn't say every attraction was supposed to promote the movies. Many were obviously.

Not sure what else I can say. I've posted 2 articles backing this up. I could go on but it seems like you have your mind made up that none of it is true. Just not sure why.
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I do not believe it because I know it is not true. It is a narrative pushed by Disney to justify their own unimaginative decisions. Walt's boredom with the studio by the 1950s is well documented and I would point not to internet articles but several biographies such as The Disney Version: The Art and Commerce of Walt Disney, The Animated Man, Walt Disney: Triumph of the American Imagination, or The Magic Kingdom: Walt Disney and the American Way of Life. Roy was uninterested in Disneyland and whereas Walt was able to repeatedly convince him to finance his desires, the Studio only owned a third of Disneyland on opening day with design and another third of ownership being personally handled by Walt. Disneyland received a level of involvement from Walt that had not been seen with the films in years, probably going all the way back to Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

The purpose of the attractions based on films was no different than everything else in Disneyland, to provide a new level of amusement experience. Excepting Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and Dumbo, the Fantasyland attractions are all drawn from box office disappointments. They did not need exposure because they would be released in theaters and years before, not fearing television, Walt had the foresight to retain the television rights to the studio's films.

Only about a quarter of Disneyland's opening day attractions were based on existing content. If you consider one in four to be many, then that is an unusual definition. By the mid-1960s WED Enterprises was working almost exclusively on projects not based on content previously produced by the studio.
 
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