Frozen ride replacing Maelstrom?

[Mike S]

Just check out how they hyped up the opening of Malestrom during the Walt Disney World's Fourth of July Celebration TV Special...Many original effects shown and plenty of Willard Scott..

Disney seemed so proud of it. Now they're gutting and destroying it for the latest craze. I think I'm going to be sick

 

[SpaceMountain77]

Just check out how they hyped up the opening of Malestrom during the Walt Disney World's Fourth of July Celebration TV Special...Many original effects shown and plenty of Willard Scott..

Ugh, I just watched an original Studio Backlot Tour video on another thread and now I have just watched this video.

Honestly, Epcot and DHS are not places where dreams are made. They are places where dreams are taken away and die.

 

[FutureCEO]

To be honest....Malestrom could and should be a lot better

 

[The Empress Lilly]

To be honest....Malestrom could and should be a lot better

Yes, Maelstrom is too short and too underwhelming. It is really just four quick scenes, each one fun and atmospheric alright but tiny, with a smallish backwards drop.

It feels like a typical Rohde ride. Good in atmosphere, nice authentic feel. Too short, rich in ideas but lacking in their execution. And peculiarly suffering both from not understanding that 'less is more' and that 'more is more'.

 

[Tim Lohr]

Just check out how they hyped up the opening of Malestrom during the Walt Disney World's Fourth of July Celebration TV Special...Many original effects shown and plenty of Willard Scott..

It's interesting that this video makes it look like the exit of the ride is also the entrance, isn't that what they're planning on doing now? plus theres awesome 80's music in there too

 

[jt04]

Disney isn't going to do a "test" attraction just like they didn't "prefurb" Space Mountain.

I did not say it is a test only. It is a much needed attraction to meet guest demand immediately. What I am saying is that it could be replaced by a complete land or mini-land if the franchise stays on the present trajectory. There is reason for optimism in the long term.

 

[Mike S]

I did not say it is a test only. It is a much needed attraction to meet guest demand immediately. What I am saying is that it could be replaced by a complete land or mini-land if the franchise stays on the present trajectory. There is reason for optimism in the long term.

There's also a reason not to listen to you at all. How about you actually go to the parks then come back here.

 

[bhg469]

There's also a reason not to listen to you at all. How about you actually go to the parks then come back here.

Yup, those who never went before and never experienced the parks usually have no problem with changes like this. When you're standing there, you would totally understand.

 

[dadddio]

Yup, those who never went before and never experienced the parks usually have no problem with changes like this. When you're standing there, you would totally understand.

You're a true Scotsman.

 

[squidward]

I'm sure it's been brought up before, but it really goes to show how unimaginative the imagineers are and how short sighted Disney truly has become. For years guests have been asking for a new land at Epcot, a new ride or two. There's plenty of room for them to do it. But instead of coming up with something spectacular that will cost money, they're just going to go for the quick hit on the latest craze. Toy Story Mania made sense. It was an established, long lasting franchise. Frozen hit theaters less than a year ago.

 

[Matt_Black]

Toy Story Mania made sense. It was an established, long lasting franchise. Frozen hit theaters less than a year ago.

Yes, and in that time it made over a BILLION DOLLARS and so far hasn't waned any in popularity.

 

[dadddio]

Yes, and in that time it made over a BILLION DOLLARS and so far hasn't waned any in popularity.

TSMM was opened after TS2. Frozen outearned T1 & T2 combined by nearly 400 million dollars. People forget that while T1 and T2 did pretty well earning 332M and 395M, it was T3 that was the big hit.

 

[squidward]

Yes, and in that time it made over a BILLION DOLLARS and so far hasn't waned any in popularity.

I don't care if it made a zillion dollars. It hasn't been around long enough to justify gutting a beloved attraction for it.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I'm sure it's been brought up before, but it really goes to show how unimaginative the imagineers are and how short sighted Disney truly has become. For years guests have been asking for a new land at Epcot, a new ride or two. There's plenty of room for them to do it. But instead of coming up with something spectacular that will cost money, they're just going to go for the quick hit on the latest craze. Toy Story Mania made sense. It was an established, long lasting franchise. Frozen hit theaters less than a year ago.

Toy Story Midway Mania! was just more of Disney forcing characters into a setting.

 

[squidward]

TSMM was opened after TS2. Frozen outearned T1 & T2 combined by nearly 400 million dollars. People forget that while T1 and T2 did pretty well earning 332M and 395M, it was T3 that was the big hit.

If we want to be fair, taking the number of tickets sold, the following Disney movies were more popular than Frozen:

Monsters, Inc.
Toy Story 3
Aladdin
Lady and the Tramp
Finding Nemo
Bambi
Pinocchio
Sleeping Beauty
The Jungle Book
Mary Poppins
Fantasia
The Lion King
101 Dalmations
Snow White

And keep in mind, those movies didn't have the advantage of 3D and IMAX ticket prices.

I'm not saying Frozen isn't immensely popular right now. It obviously is. I'm just trying to put things in perspective.

 

[squidward]

Toy Story Midway Mania! was just more of Disney forcing characters into a setting.

Maybe, but what should they have used? It's a Disney movie. It's been around for a long time. And most importantly, it was placed in the appropriate theme park, not replacing another attraction.

 

[Tim Lohr]

Maelstrom is a kinda dark and scary thrill ride, Frozen is a musical comedy for little girls, I really don't see how these 2 things fit together, but this is still apparently a thing that might happen huh?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Maybe, but what should they have used? It's a Disney movie. It's been around for a long time. And most importantly, it was placed in the appropriate theme park, not replacing another attraction.

They could have created original characters that would have made sense for a 1920s boardwalk instead of using mid-20th century characters. There is nothing relating to midways and old amusement parks in the park, as the attraction was developed for Paradise Pier. It replaced Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, Play It!. Toy Story Midway Mania! is the same sort of scenario, a loose connection justified by a supposed need for stronger relevance that can only be accomplished with a franchise.

 

[dadddio]

I don't care if it made a zillion dollars. It hasn't been around long enough to justify gutting a beloved attraction for it.

I thought this thread was about Maelstrom.

 

[danlb_2000]

I'm sure it's been brought up before, but it really goes to show how unimaginative the imagineers are and how short sighted Disney truly has become. For years guests have been asking for a new land at Epcot, a new ride or two. There's plenty of room for them to do it. But instead of coming up with something spectacular that will cost money, they're just going to go for the quick hit on the latest craze. Toy Story Mania made sense. It was an established, long lasting franchise. Frozen hit theaters less than a year ago.

These sorts of decisions are not really up to Imagineering.