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Frozen ride replacing Maelstrom?
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BiffyClyro
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Do you wanna build a Frozen rideeeee?
No.
It doesn't have to be a frozen riiddeeee.
No.
It doesn't have to be a frozen riiddeeee.
BiffyClyro
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I respect what you're saying, but at the same time they can't constantly keep going by Walt's statements, or not much would change at all. People keep trying to guess what he would have wanted and the truth it... No one knows. His opinions and visions would have changed, so people need to stop using this excuse when something they don't like happens.
RSoxNo1
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Question to the individuals that seem to know the various concepts that were suggested for this. I know one of the concepts involved a separate build for Frozen instead of retrofitting Maelstrom. Was there ever a proposal that would increase capacity and/or ride length to the existing ride structure or are we to expect 4-5 minute ride that accommodates 1000 people per hour?
lazyboy97o
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No such statements were made in relation to Disneyland. It had grown and evolved into something different and more than Mickey Mouse Park.
squidward
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What I'm saying has nothing to do with what Walt would or wouldn't have wanted. I'm talking about how he used TV as a platform to promote Disneyland and vice versa. It's not an opinion. It's a fact. Walt may not have liked the idea but he wasn't an idiot. He needed to promote the park somehow. Remember, this was the 50 ' s and TV'S were just starting to show up in everybody's homes. There was no Internet. He needed to spread the word about the park.
He used TV because he had to. The contract with ABC (I believe) was necessary to help finance the building of DL....
lazyboy97o
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He used television to promote the park. He did not use the park to promote films and television.
squidward
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Yes. I didn't say he wanted to.
squidward
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Well, at least you're giving me half.
Using the parks to promote movies is arguable. I can see why some would say he didn't. That much he never came out and said. I've read about it and it's been said on TV but that doesn't make it true obviously. I believe it because it would have been smart marketing for shopping in the parks.
lazyboy97o
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The content of the park itself and what WED Enterprises was developing does not support the argument that it was intended as a promotional piece. Given that filling the parks in the 1990s with the same merchandise everywhere never yielded the increased in guest spending that were promised, it cannot even be said that such a move earlier in the park's history would have been smart. It is not until the mid-to-late 1980s that Disney starts saying Disneyland is about the movies and it is only with Iger that such statements have become so definitive. Before that, almost all descriptions of Disneyland as such were generally of the tone that it is a destructive force in American culture.
Californian Elitist
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What statements and what "actual things that are very obvious"?
You know the truth I'm referring to. What you're saying is factually incorrect.
Californian Elitist
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We agree that he used television to promote Disneyland, but it wasn't the same vice versa.
baloofigment14
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Inserting picture of Maelstrom in attempt to keep the thread on topic.
lazyboy97o
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The willingness of Disney to dedicate most of a World Showcase pavilion to the American interpretation of fictional characters stems rather directly from the shift in Disney's creative view of the theme parks that began in the mid-1980s and has accelerated in recent years. It has been reinforced over the years by a growing contingent of Disney fans who lack a strong interest in themed entertainment, instead seeking out the comfort of the known and therefore demanding to consume more and more references.
Inserting picture of Maelstrom in attempt to keep the thread on topic.
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JEANYLASER
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jakeman
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Pinocchio was re-released into theaters in 1984.
Californian Elitist
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True, but that somewhat has nothing to do with the subject, given the fact Pinocchio wasn't an opening day attraction.
ToTBellHop
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How about a Big Hero 6 coaster in Japan? The Good Dinosaur at UoE? And Inside Out could get Wonders of Life back. If there is one thing we can all agree Epcot needs, it is Lewis Black.
xdan0920
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It needs more company spanning synergy is what it needs!
I say we rip out The American Adventure and replace it with a Sportscenter set. Booyah!
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