Frozen ride replacing Maelstrom?

[squidward]

They could have created original characters that would have made sense for a 1920s boardwalk instead of using mid-20th century characters. There is nothing relating to midways and old amusement parks in the park, as the attraction was developed for Paradise Pier. It replaced Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, Play It!. Toy Story Midway Mania! is the same sort of scenario, a loose connection justified by a supposed need for stronger relevance that can only be accomplished with a franchise.

Oh yeah. Forgot about Millionaire.

Why would they create a ride to fit into a 1920's Boardwalk Area? That's Paradise Pier, not Hollywood Studios. We're talking about 2 different things. You seem to dislike Disney using their characters or films for attractions in general. I don't have a problem with it as long as it fits the the scenario. When Disneyland first opened, that was the whole point - To promote Disney's TV and films. And it works the majority of the time. This is Disney World after all. Why would they make characters up when they have the most beloved characters in the world?

My point is, characters don't belong in or part of attractions at World Showcase. Gran Fiesta Tour showed us all that.

 

[Mike S]

They could have created original characters that would have made sense for a 1920s boardwalk instead of using mid-20th century characters. There is nothing relating to midways and old amusement parks in the park, as the attraction was developed for Paradise Pier. It replaced Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, Play It!. Toy Story Midway Mania! is the same sort of scenario, a loose connection justified by a supposed need for stronger relevance that can only be accomplished with a franchise.

It would make more sense if they would just finally go ahead with a Pixar Place expansion. A full land themed to Pixar would make perfect sense in a movie themed Disney park. I still say Disney should take notes from Universal going forward with DHS. Just have the park filled with highly themed and immersive franchise based lands. It's a park themed to Hollywood after all, pretty much a guarantee that all rides would be tied to an existing franchise in some way.

 

[squidward]

I thought this thread was about Maelstrom.

It's about Frozen possibly replacing Maelstrom, no?

 

[lazyboy97o]

These sorts of decisions are not really up to Imagineering.

I think Walt Disney Imagineering could probably be more forceful in what they pitch to the parks

Oh yeah. Forgot about Millionaire.

Why would they create a ride to fit into a 1920's Boardwalk Area? That's Paradise Pier, not Hollywood Studios. We're talking about 2 different things. You seem to dislike Disney using their characters or films for attractions in general. I don't have a problem with it as long as it fits the the scenario. When Disneyland first opened, that was the whole point - To promote Disney's TV and films. And it works the majority of the time. This is Disney World after all. Why would they make characters up when they have the most beloved characters in the world?

My point is, characters don't belong in or part of attractions at World Showcase. Gran Fiesta Tour showed us all that.

Toy Story Midway Mania! is still set on a midway toy set, even in Florida. It is just a toy set that is found in an oddly decorated studio where people live.

Disneyland was not at all created to promote the studio. The number of franchise attractions following opening were a definite minority. Disney World as originally envisioned was intended to be even less relevant to the studio. You cannot say the parks are about promoting the studio and that characters in World Showcase is uncreative and inappropriate. If the parks are about promoting the studio then World Showcase is a failure and needs films and characters to properly function.

 

[dadddio]

It's about Frozen possibly replacing Maelstrom, no?

Yes, but your post suggested that Frozen was replacing a beloved ride wheras this thread is about Maelstrom; a ride that I doubt most WDW visitors would put on their top 20 list.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

It would make more sense if they would just finally go ahead with a Pixar Place expansion. A full land themed to Pixar would make perfect sense in a movie themed Disney park. I still say Disney should take notes from Universal going forward with DHS. Just have the park filled with highly themed and immersive franchise based lands. It's a park themed to Hollywood after all, pretty much a guarantee that all rides would be tied to an existing franchise in some way.

I completely agree with you here. Studios should get all of the expansion/refurbishment money for the foreseeable future, in my opinion. They need to expand Pixar Place (to actually include more than one Pixar attraction), dive head first into Star Wars, add another Indiana Jones attraction, and refurbish/update Great Movie Ride.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

Maelstrom is a kinda dark and scary thrill ride, Frozen is a musical comedy for little girls, I really don't see how these 2 things fit together, but this is still apparently a thing that might happen huh?

I'm a 30 year old man, and I love Frozen. It might not be my favorite Disney movie ever, but I greatly enjoyed it. That being said, it doesn't need to take over Maelstrom. It actually needs its own bigger attraction somewhere that makes sense, like in Fantasyland.

 

[JEANYLASER]

 

[squidward]

Yes, but your post suggested that Frozen was replacing a beloved ride wheras this thread is about Maelstrom; a ride that I doubt most WDW visitors would put on their top 20 list.

Yet it has 192 pages of replies in just under a month.

 

[squidward]

Disneyland was not at all created to promote the studio. The number of franchise attractions following opening were a definite minority. Disney World as originally envisioned was intended to be even less relevant to the studio. You cannot say the parks are about promoting the studio and that characters in World Showcase is uncreative and inappropriate. If the parks are about promoting the studio then World Showcase is a failure and needs films and characters to properly function.

No offense, but you should go back and do some research on Disneyland. It most definitely was created with an intention of promoting Disney films and TV shows, and vice verca. Walt Disney used his TV shows to promote the park.

 

[Matt_Black]

Frozen is a musical comedy for little girls

Frozen is about a mutant queen who goes into the wilderness and makes her own Fortress of Solitude. It's a straight-up superhero origin movie masquerading as a Disney Princess film.

 

[docandsix]

It replaced Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, Play It!.

To me, this is another reminder of why TDO should resist the urge to jump on the Frozen bandwagon so abruptly and with so little planning. Who Wants to Be a Millionaire also took our culture by storm, only to be largely forgotten within three or four years. Altering Maelstrom to suit the whims of six-year-old girls who will soon move on to the next fad represents poor judgment and likely poor execution, as well. (Capacity issues suggest that accommodating the gathering throng with 9,000 riders per day and a very small queue won't work out well, however long the Frozen craze does last.)

 

[Tim Lohr]

I'm a 30 year old man, and I love Frozen. It might not be my favorite Disney movie ever, but I greatly enjoyed it. That being said, it doesn't need to take over Maelstrom. It actually needs its own bigger attraction somewhere that makes sense, like in Fantasyland.

I like it too, and I have two 3 year old nieces who both love Frozen, however they don't really like dark and scary stuff all that much... The really basic theory here seems to be that "Frozen" is really popular, and if we add this really popular thing to "Maelstrom", that will make Maelstrom really popular too! But how exactly do you apply that theory? Because I just can't see how "dark and scary thrill ride" plus "pretty singing cartoon ladies" equals "a ride that people of all ages will enjoy", the little ones who like Frozen might be put off by the thrill ride aspect of Maelstrom, and the older thrill seeks might not care for the pretty singing cartoon ladies... so who exactly is this Frozen/Maelstrom combo ride experience supposed to appeal to? If this plan is meant to broaden the appeal of Maelstrom, I have a feeling that plan might back fire

 

[Californian Elitist]

No offense, but you should go back and do some research on Disneyland. It most definitely was created with an intention of promoting Disney films and TV shows, and vice verca. Walt Disney used his TV shows to promote the park.

False.

 

[danv3]

It's not really fair to Maelstrom fans who don't want to see their ride become a thing of the past - nor is it fair for Frozen fans to see their attraction be put somewhere it doesn't belong. Give Frozen it's attraction...in DHS or Magic Kingdom where you have the space to really give it the attention it deserves. Leave Maelstrom alone.

Everyone but TDO/TWDC understands this.

 

[lazyboy97o]

No offense, but you should go back and do some research on Disneyland. It most definitely was created with an intention of promoting Disney films and TV shows, and vice verca. Walt Disney used his TV shows to promote the park.

The television shows were created to promote Disneyland and in exchange for ABC's investment in Disneyland. You should also examine the attractions and their content. All good biographies of Walt Disney also highlight his general boredom with the studio in the 1950s and 1960s.

 

[Turtle]

Predicting it right now. Frozen takes over Maelstrom is announced on September 2nd with the Frozen TV special.

 

[dadddio]

Yet it has 192 pages of replies in just under a month.

A month, eight months, whatever.

 

[Matt_Black]

To me, this is another reminder of why TDO should resist the urge to jump on the Frozen bandwagon so abruptly and with so little planning. Who Wants to Be a Millionaire also took our culture by storm, only to be largely forgotten within three or four years. Altering Maelstrom to suit the whims of six-year-old girls who will soon move on to the next fad represents poor judgment and likely poor execution, as well. (Capacity issues suggest that accommodating the gathering throng with 9,000 riders per day and a very small queue won't work out well, however long the Frozen craze does last.)

Except there's a bit of a difference between a game show and a film that is part of the Walt Disney Animated Studios canon, particularly one as well received as Frozen has been. TV has a different pop cultural shelf life than movies.

 

[JEANYLASER]

Predicting it right now. Frozen takes over Maelstrom is announced on September 2nd with the Frozen TV special. It will be official on September 2, 2014! I have to watch the Announcement about Frozen takes over Maelstrom.