Matt_Black
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Ah, yes...politics! Gotta love it!
How is that politics?
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Frozen ride replacing Maelstrom?
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How is that politics?
asianway
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I believe China is a crazy rich guy but same principle.
Goofyernmost
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Matt_Black
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Listen, bubby, the only politics I care about are the Politics of Dancing!
Seriously, though, if that's the criteria we're going to use, then Epcot has been political for years, as each and every pavilion in World Showcase is "Come visit our country!"
Seriously, though, if that's the criteria we're going to use, then Epcot has been political for years, as each and every pavilion in World Showcase is "Come visit our country!"
fngoofy
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You can't hold a whole company responsible for the misplacement of a few individual characters. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole corporate system? And if the whole corporate system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our economic institutions in general? I put it to you, isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can say whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!
Matt_Black
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Well, there's the fact that the creators of Frozen have publicly stated repeatedly that the drew on Norwegian culture and locales as their main inspiration for the look of the characters and setting, or the fact that they hired a Norwegian to work with composer Cristophe Beck for the score so the music would sound authentic....
SirLink
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Yes, I can because time and time again Disney has forsaken SQS for Efficiency, whether that be adding characters to make it more like Cartoon Showcase( N.B: Thanks Alain), cutting corners on maintenance, food, merchandise, etc. This is just compared with the early 90s Disney and now. You can't blame it on society, you can blame Disney's Strategic and Planning division. They saw their opportunity and pounced ...
fngoofy
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Moore's law and communication have outpaced what can be learned in a passing glance of theme park experiences.
When EPCOT opened and I saw in Communicore a person demonstrating a green screen process for newscasting I was awe struck. Now you can do that with your webcam.
When I made diner reservations (same day, the only way at the time) via a touch-screen kiosk that allowed me to see and be seen by the operator taking the reservation, I thought I was in the future. Now my son FaceTimes with Grammy at will and thinks nothing of it.
When the Living Seas showed me a future of under sea exploration and discovery it was a glorious idea. Now the seas are dead and governments don't believe in science, so why foist a pipe dream that even the least cynical amongst us would say is naive.
When GM told us a story about the history of cars it was fun (for those of us that remember life before CGI.) Now it would come across as a slow paced PBS lesson on autos.
The semi hold over of UoE plays like the energy industry paid off WDW and Bill Nye to shill for them.
Snark aside,
Yes, Communicore could take on some educational role and if money was dedicated and they kept things changing and up to date with technology and advancements and discoveries concerning its subject matter.
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You wouldn't need fastpass+ to experience it because all the crowds will be at guest services demanding the Real Housewives of Disney experience.
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Matt_Black
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Yeah, I remember Innoventions in the mid-90s. You'd walk through real quick to see if the VR Magic Carpet prototype was open and, if not and it wasn't too hot out, you'd exit and see what else there was to do. Now, there's actually stuff to do (the safety testing area is fun on a bun- I love using a magnet to lift a metal drum and then drop it on a helmet).
EPCOTCenterLover
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Maybe Frozen should go to MK in the New Fantasyland? Using the wireless system like Pooh's Hunney Hunt in Tokyo, it could be a first class E ticket reason for that area of the park. And just think of the potential for a Christmas overlay! 
willtravel
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I wish WDW would have waited and put something Frozen related in at DHS where Legend of Jack Sparrow is now.
Boardwalk-empire
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I will chain myself to the oil rig or the trolls and refuse to move! I will shed a tear the last time I ride it.
tirian
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Can we add it's one of the weakest soundtracks in Disney musical history? Even critics who like it have admitted there's not a single hummable tune...See, that was my gripe about the "Frozen" film. The "Snow Queen" story was completely changed and most of its characters jettisoned for something more marketable - like two - count 'em - TWO princesses! Ka-ching!
GiveMeTheMusic
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Everyone I know has been humming Let It Go since they saw the film. That's hardly been the critical consensus (or the public one considering the soundtrack is now outselling Beyonce).
tirian
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That's nice about the soundtrack sales, but the critical consensus has indeed lamented the weak songs. Check Metacritic or RT.
Not that it matters.
I want a Frozen ride in the MK.
aladdin2007
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Norway did use to foot the bill along with a conglomerate of companies, but the government pulled out around 2002-2003. They have tried several attempts to be involved again and offered a new film for free as a replacement for the current one under a new agreement. Disney refused the deal, and the government refused to pay Disneys astronomical prices just for research along on possible changes. FROZEN both parties became and gave up. So, Disney can do whatever they want with the pavilion as its not been funded as such, for a good decade now.
aladdin2007
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That's nice about the soundtrack sales, but the critical consensus has indeed lamented the weak songs. Check Metacritic or RT.
Not that it matters.
I want a Frozen ride in the MK.
I agree, nothing memorable for songs/music, its not even that authentic and doesnt even have a theme running throughout like Disney films use to do, they could have thrown in some hardanger fiddle to make it more Norwegian sounding. Heck, Sissel should have sung a song too. Let it Go is okay until demi lovato comes along and butchers it. Frozen ride in MK or Frozen show in DHS would be the better options.
SirLink
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