Frozen ride replacing Maelstrom?

[Matt_Black]

Hey, remember when it was announced they'd changed the exhibits in Stave Church and everyone was complaining about how it was going to be ruined and princess-ified and then when it finally opened everyone was all, "Oh. Oh that's actually not bad."?

 

[GoofGoof]

Hey, remember when it was announced they'd changed the exhibits in Stave Church and everyone was complaining about how it was going to be ruined and princess-ified and then when it finally opened everyone was all, "Oh. Oh that's actually not bad."?

I definitely remember the first part. The second...not so much around these parts

 

[EpcoTim]

Hey, remember when it was announced they'd changed the exhibits in Stave Church and everyone was complaining about how it was going to be ruined and princess-ified and then when it finally opened everyone was all, "Oh. Oh that's actually not bad."?

I'd like to applaud you on your ability to just make things up. Very well done.

 

[Matt_Black]

I definitely remember the first part. The second...not so much around these parts

I'd like to applaud you on your ability to just make things up. Very well done.

Well, from the thread in question...

I'm impressed and relieved really.

I was very nervous about this overlay, but this exhibit seems very tasteful and well done. In the spirit of Epcot it combines education and entertainment; it weaves subtle and not so subtle advertising with real historic objects, and artifacts. It connects these items to facets of Norwegian Culture. I can see this staying far past the film’s release.

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/out-with-the-vikings-in-with-princess.874875/page-13#post-5815294

Nice to see the blend in the new exhibit. Well done.

There's more, but that'll do for now.

 

[Mike S]

Joy.

Disco Marshmallow?

 

[EpcoTim]

Well, from the thread in question...
There's more, but that'll do for now.

Ah, yes, a fickle minority. Perfect back up for a well conceived argument.

 

[DinoInstitute]

Joy.

 

[WondersOfLife]

Disco Marshmallow?

Oh dear lord..

 

[Sped2424]

Ah, yes, a fickle minority. Perfect back up for a well conceived argument.

No dude has a point a lot of people were relieved with it.

 

[GoofGoof]

No dude has a point a lot of people were relieved with it.

It was a mix. Some were OK with it, others not so much. His post said everyone

 

[Matt_Black]

Okay, more accurately, I don't recall seeing anyone say, "I can safely say that, having seen this new exhibit, it's awful." Better?

 

[NoChesterHester]

Unfortunately TDO uses a veterinarian's view of the verb "fix", whereby TDO neuters rather than repairs.

Stop blaming TDO solely for this.

Blame WDI. Don't give them a pass. They let it get to this point. Blame Burbank, they haven't allocated the proper resources because they are covering for other issues.

 

[NoChesterHester]

God I hate this idea so much It really gives me no hope Disney will ever truly fix Epcot.

Ok, esoterically / what would fix Epcot for today's audience? I believe it is more complicated than it seems.

 

[aladdin2007]

Stop blaming TDO solely for this.

Blame WDI. Don't give them a pass. They let it get to this point. Blame Burbank, they haven't allocated the proper resources because they are covering for other issues.

I think all the parties are to blame really in one way or another, same problem with the SE ending, along with siemens.

 

[EpcoTim]

No dude has a point a lot of people were relieved with it.

Yeah dude totally man surf on some were but a rather slim minority but let's like totally radical ignore those who weren't so we can totally ignore the majority response dude man cool ok

 

[RSoxNo1]

This is Disney's idea of fixing Epcot.

That's the thing, it's a thematic break but it's the cheapest alternative to get another high demand attraction in that park.

 

[aladdin2007]

That's the thing, it's a thematic break but it's the cheapest alternative to get another high demand attraction in that park.

yet in too small of a space, where the crowd control will be a nightmare.

 

[danv3]

That's the thing, it's a thematic break but it's the cheapest alternative to get another high demand attraction in that park.

It's also a waste of extremely valuable IP that really deserves a major attraction, with the added benefit of not addressing the lack of attractions in EPCOT.

 

[Sped2424]

Yeah dude totally man surf on some were but a rather slim minority but let's like totally radical ignore those who weren't so we can totally ignore the majority response dude man cool ok

Well aren't you the charmer on here, sorry my use of the phrase dude rubbed your light sensibilities the wrong way. I could go back and quote many of the response about it?Anyways stranger here you go.

"I went inside the Stave church yesterday. While I admit that for a shoehorned film tie-in it was tastefully done, it was still a little strange seeing a Disney film so prominently featured in what used to be devoted exclusively to international culture. I suppose it'd be like seeing a "making of Beauty and the Beast" movie instead of Impressions de France, not to say it couldn't be done tastefully or accurately, just that the new focus would take some getting used to.
For what I'm sure the Imagineers were instructed to do, they did a fine job with it. It's more that someone found this necessary that I find disappointing."

"Nice to see the blend in the new exhibit. Well done."


"What had me concerned originally was the report that the Stave Church was going to be a meet & Greet for the Frozen characters... Using it as an exhibition for the design of a film that happens in the same region is a whole different thing. The exhibit looks well done....and dare I say, relevant."

"was banging my chest with woe and sobbing over the loss of the Viking exhibit and how horrible a princess commercial for the new blah movie would be.......then WHAM! Did not see it coming.
The new exhibit looks interesting and I hope it will be open when we go next...and NOW I want to see the movie, I wasn't sure about it before...

The new display might not be about Vikings,
but might actually display more info about Norway then before, so OK...."

That's just on page. Now I am not advocating that frozen should go in norway, but I am saying that the response to the exhibit was indeed a warm one overall granted there were some folks who didn't like it. Dude . Also here is the definition of Majority since it seems to escape you
ma·jor·i·ty
məˈjôrətē,-ˈjär-/
noun

1. 1.
   the greater number.
   "in the majority of cases all will go smoothly"
   
   larger part/number, greater part/number, best/better part, most, more than half; More
   

 

[NoChesterHester]

I may be alone on an island here, but even in the face of alienating some people here it goes... It doesn't bother me that much.

Now I hate the hat at DHS. I hate the circus tent facades in Fantasyland. I hate the placement of Aladdin's Magic Carpets. I obviously despise Dinorama... So how can I support the placement of toons in World Showcase??

I am far more of an environment purist than I am a thematic purist. I don't like toons intruding in on real world environments, but that purist dies once I step through the doors into the queue.

The escape for me is walking through Harambe and being transported to that place and time. Nothing interrupts that escape. As an example, the BAH does the exact opposite, it interrupts the perfectly constructed environment of Fantasy Hollywood with a cartoon element. Same thing with the Magic Carpets in Adventureland.

For some reason, I have an automatic suspension of disbelief when I board the rides. Things like... why is Peter Pan inside a medieval house in Disneyland? The facade has no relation to the ride that is through the doors. It is still beautiful.

Part of that is that I expect the parks to be the escape and the rides to be a fun distraction. Because of that, the rides can have cartoon elements or be based on cartoons.

My expectations for the park environs are for real world, well constructed escapes that transport me to another time, place, or fantasy.

Since modern audiences expect Disney characters in every nook and cranny I just don't mind it if it is hidden from view and as tastefully done as possible.