"Frozen" coming to Disneyland?

SuddenStorm

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I think it should either be kept intact to represent its original presentation or put into a museum.

I think it should remain intact at Disneyland- and any changes should be to bring it closer to the original version of the show.

The Opera House is one of the last remaining areas of park that attempts to treat Disneyland as more than an amusement park. Sure, they need to rotate the exhibits more often and they desperately need to update the 'what's coming next' section since Galaxy's Edge opened three years ago and that's what they're showcasing.

I can't think of a show that could possibly be better for that space- since Lincoln satisfies the classic Disneyland/Walt Disney/Americana requirements perfectly. It's also home to one of the few recent changes that was universally praised- the addition of the Frederick Douglas bust.

It's also cheap to operate- it only needs one Cast Member. And it's not in an area of the park that could sustain a high demand attraction- you can't have long lines clogging the entrance to the park there- so it's okay that the show isn't crazy popular.

But if it ever does leave Disneyland, I hope it finds a home at the Disney Family Museum.
 

SuddenStorm

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Agree wholeheartedly. Off the top of my head, Alice, Cinderella, Pinocchio, and the Three Caballeros are all very tastefully integrated into their scenes; the Little Mermaid less so (she more or less is the entirety of her scene, if I recall correctly).

The Mermaid scene makes no sense to me. I can understand having a representation of the ocean and sea life- I'm not sure if it existed prior to the Disney character additions but it's not horribly out of place.

But, there isn't a society of mermaids. Having mermaid representation in the ride makes no sense, and it cheapens the message of world togetherness and honoring different cultures.
 

lazyboy97o

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But, there isn't a society of mermaids. Having mermaid representation in the ride makes no sense, and it cheapens the message of world togetherness and honoring different cultures.
That message was removed from the ride. Disney outright said that when they were building the attraction in Hong Kong, scrubbed references to it when called out on it in Anaheim and have since essentially admitted as much. “It’s a small world”, the Walt Disney classic prayer for peace, was removed from Disneyland and replaced with a similar looking hide and go seek ride with the same name.
 

Phroobar

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The Mermaid scene makes no sense to me. I can understand having a representation of the ocean and sea life- I'm not sure if it existed prior to the Disney character additions but it's not horribly out of place.

But, there isn't a society of mermaids. Having mermaid representation in the ride makes no sense, and it cheapens the message of world togetherness and honoring different cultures.
The mermaids have always been part of It's a Small World. Besides, who is going to sing Jingle Shells at Christmas?
 

mharrington

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That message was removed from the ride. Disney outright said that when they were building the attraction in Hong Kong, scrubbed references to it when called out on it in Anaheim and have since essentially admitted as much. “It’s a small world”, the Walt Disney classic prayer for peace, was removed from Disneyland and replaced with a similar looking hide and go seek ride with the same name.
Did they really, literally, say that, or is that just the purists' interpretation now?
 

lazyboy97o

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Did they really, literally, say that, or is that just the purists' interpretation now?
Did they literally say what? The pre-opening English language website for Hong Kong Disneyland described the ride as being a game of hide and seek until it was pointed out that Disney was lying about the intent of the changes they were making in Anaheim.
 

mharrington

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Did they literally say what? The pre-opening English language website for Hong Kong Disneyland described the ride as being a game of hide and seek until it was pointed out that Disney was lying about the intent of the changes they were making in Anaheim.
I mean, did Disney literally announce that Small World was no longer about world peace?
 

lazyboy97o

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I mean, did Disney literally announce that Small World was no longer about world peace?
If it’s about finding Disney characters then it’s not really about world peace. That’s why they scrubbed the Hong Kong Disneyland when there was negative reactions to the changes in Anaheim because it contradicted their claim that the ride’s story was not changing.
 

mharrington

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If it’s about finding Disney characters then it’s not really about world peace. That’s why they scrubbed the Hong Kong Disneyland when there was negative reactions to the changes in Anaheim because it contradicted their claim that the ride’s story was not changing.
Why can't it be about Disney characters AND world peace?
 

Californian Elitist

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Why can't it be about Disney characters AND world peace?
In this context, the ride has become, especially, for first-timers, a “Where’s Waldo” game of finding Disney characters scattered throughout the ride. The message becomes lost, in that sense. I’m used to the characters now and still value the original point of the ride, but I was taken aback by the characters when they first debuted. It was a little refreshing to ride MK’s version a few months ago, where there are no characters.

The infusion of Disney characters into small world is more evidence that the current mindset is thinking everything in the park has to be linked to a Disney character/movie/television show, when it doesn’t.
 

lazyboy97o

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Why can't it be about Disney characters AND world peace?
How do those two things relate? If you’re focused on finding characters you’re not focused on the tapestry of different cultures being presented, that’s just background intended to hide the characters. If you’re focused on the larger scenes, how are they enhanced by the characters? There’s a reason Disney lied about not intended for people to try and find the characters.
 

Phroobar

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How do those two things relate? If you’re focused on finding characters you’re not focused on the tapestry of different cultures being presented, that’s just background intended to hide the characters. If you’re focused on the larger scenes, how are they enhanced by the characters? There’s a reason Disney lied about not intended for people to try and find the characters.
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mharrington

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Original Poster
How do those two things relate? If you’re focused on finding characters you’re not focused on the tapestry of different cultures being presented, that’s just background intended to hide the characters. If you’re focused on the larger scenes, how are they enhanced by the characters? There’s a reason Disney lied about not intended for people to try and find the characters.
Why can't the characters be used to promote world peace? Are they not allowed to?
 

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