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[DisneyDoctor]

This strikes me as some serious naivete from someone who has never actually raised a child. Kids are full of ****. If you give a kid a plate with pork, noodles, and broccoli, the kid might eat absolutely nothing and claim they're full. They might eat just the noodles and then claim they're full. Kids lie and say they're full all of the time because they want to go outside and play or because they're just being picky. There's a lot more nuance to it. Parents need to know their kids and make decisions at each meal. A blanket "clean your plate" policy is bad, but so is "let your kid decide when they're full."

I thought that was assumed. Blanket statements in general are dangerous (that’s a blanket statement lol). I should’ve clarified, my apologies.

 

[erasure fan1]

Ok. So, one refill? Buy an unlimited cup then.

Not sure why this thread was so hard to understand or how the wheels fell off but oh well.

 

[21stamps]

It is ONE aspect to the problem. I chose to present one thing that I thought others would overlook.

What people are eating is the problem. The high sugar, high processed, flat out junk that dominates most grocery stores.

Some would argue the biggest factor is inactivity. There’s a lot of evidence suggesting not moving is worse than eating habits.

Inactivity is definitely a huge problem. I completely agree. I mean somehow we’ve morphed into a world where being a sports parent is a bad thing.. as we can see from comments here.lol

 

[englanddg]

This strikes me as some serious naivete from someone who has never actually raised a child. Kids are full of ****. If you give a kid a plate with pork, noodles, and broccoli, the kid might eat absolutely nothing and claim they're full. They might eat just the noodles and then claim they're full. Kids lie and say they're full all of the time because they want to go outside and play or because they're just being picky. There's a lot more nuance to it. Parents need to know their kids and make decisions at each meal. A blanket "clean your plate" policy is bad, but so is "let your kid decide when they're full."

Heh...I tried that once as a kid. My mom said "eat it or eat nothing". I called her bluff.

I ate nothing.

So, she took me to school that day, where I complained I was hungry (as I heard the story retold, I was about 5). So, the school, it seems, investigated my parents.

Turns out I was just being a jerk. A kid, granted, but still being a jerk.

You make a good point.

MY kid, if you ask her, will deny she likes any food that isn't Chicken Nuggets or Chicken Strips or mac and cheese (pretty common). But, what I did discover is that she actually eats more than that...especially if she helps prepare it.

And, making her assist in preparation, actually teaches her things. Like, cooking skills, planning skills, prep skills...

But, I remember when her mother's friend got all onto me because "no child should be handling a knife!" when I was teaching her knife skills.

Bollocks.

 

[DisneyDoctor]

What people are eating is the problem. The high sugar, high processed, flat out junk that dominates most grocery stores.



Inactivity is definitely a huge problem. I completely agree. I mean somehow we’ve morphed into a world where being a sports parent is a bad thing.. as we can see from comments here.lol

I don’t think it’s bad. I was just making an observation. Tell me, was I right about the Fox News part?

 

[englanddg]

What people are eating is the problem. The high sugar, high processed, flat out junk that dominates most grocery stores.



Inactivity is definitely a huge problem. I completely agree. I mean somehow we’ve morphed into a world where being a sports parent is a bad thing.. as we can see from comments here.lol

A "Soccer Mom" isn't a bad thing because the kids are doing sports.

It's more that when they grow past your interest (or more aptly, your responsibility) they aren't left with much to fall back upon, because, all that time doing Soccer, they could have been actually working. You taught them nothing outside of how to run around a field like a spaz.

Mind you, I adore the sport. So much so that I became a FIFA certified referee of it at 13. Yes, 13.

What did your kid do? Run around in umbros and score goals and argue with the ref (me)?

 

[DisneyDoctor]

A "Soccer Mom" isn't a bad thing because the kids are doing sports.

It's more that when they grow past your interest (or more aptly, your responsibility) they aren't left with much to fall back upon, because, all that time doing Soccer, they could have been actually working. You taught them nothing outside of how to run around a field like a spaz.

Mind you, I adore the sport. So much so that I became a FIFA certified referee of it at 13. Yes, 13.

What did your kid do? Run around in umbros and score goals and argue with the ref (me)?

She was probably arguing with the refs on her childrens’ behalf.

 

[englanddg]

She was probably arguing with the refs on her childrens’ behalf.

Probably.

I have ejected quite a few parents from the field.

 

[21stamps]

I don’t think it’s bad. I was just making an observation. Tell me, was I right about the Fox News part?

I already said that sometimes I do.. but, I went to see Solo: A Star Wars Story tonight.. the length of that movie was longer than the combined amount of time that I have sat in front of a television in the past 3 months. So no, I don’t watch any TV regularly.
Once upon a time, when I actually had time.. yes, Fox & Friends was my preferred morning channel.

Here’s the thing though.. all of that is completely irrelevant to a healthy/active lifestyle.. I’ve been active since I was a child, I’ve been leading a relatively healthy lifestyle when it comes to food choices- since I was in high school...
I don’t think you can draw a line between the two, at least not in the way you’re thinking.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This strikes me as some serious naivete from someone who has never actually raised a child. Kids are full of ****. If you give a kid a plate with pork, noodles, and broccoli, the kid might eat absolutely nothing and claim they're full. They might eat just the noodles and then claim they're full. Kids lie and say they're full all of the time because they want to go outside and play or because they're just being picky. There's a lot more nuance to it. Parents need to know their kids and make decisions at each meal. A blanket "clean your plate" policy is bad, but so is "let your kid decide when they're full."

No animals will starve themselves...you may find out that universal truth one day...

 

[CaptainAmerica]

A "Soccer Mom" isn't a bad thing because the kids are doing sports.

It's more that when they grow past your interest (or more aptly, your responsibility) they aren't left with much to fall back upon, because, all that time doing Soccer, they could have been actually working. You taught them nothing outside of how to run around a field like a spaz.

Mind you, I adore the sport. So much so that I became a FIFA certified referee of it at 13. Yes, 13.

What did your kid do? Run around in umbros and score goals and argue with the ref (me)?

I think her kid is like 10.

Since when are sports and work a binary choice? I played varsity football, I was all-state volleyball, I played trumpet in the jazz band and French horn in the wind ensemble and I worked about 20 hours a week (full time in the summer).

 

[CaptainAmerica]

No animals will starve themselves...you may find out that universal truth one day...

A parent's goal isn't "get minimal calories into the kid so they don't starve."

 

[englanddg]

I think her kid is like 10.

Since when are sports and work a binary choice? I played varsity football, I was all-state volleyball, I played trumpet in the jazz band and French horn in the wind ensemble and I worked about 20 hours a week (full time in the summer).

As someone who worked in restaurants, I also don't know why it is a binary choice.

But, to some parents...it is.

The classic is when they come in to tell you their child can't work anymore because of "distraction". Not the kid, the parents.

 

[DisneyDoctor]

I already said that sometimes I do.. but, I went to see Solo: A Star Wars Story tonight.. the length of that movie was longer than the combined amount of time that I have sat in front of a television in the past 3 months. So no, I don’t watch any TV regularly.
Once upon a time, when I actually had time.. yes, Fox & Friends was my preferred morning channel.

Here’s the thing though.. all of that is completely irrelevant to a healthy/active lifestyle.. I’ve been active since I was a child, I’ve been leading a relatively healthy lifestyle when it comes to food choices- since I was in high school...
I don’t think you can draw a line between the two, at least not in the way you’re thinking.

Ding, ding, ding. God I’m good!!!

I’m not making a connection between your Fox and Friends preference and health. It’s more so the tone of your posts and arguing style and your news source of choice. Which I nailed!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

A parent's goal isn't "get minimal calories into the kid so they don't starve."

But that biologic fact will insulate them from suffering any side effects of teaching children how to eat...

 

[21stamps]

She was probably arguing with the refs on her childrens’ behalf.

Probably.

I have ejected quite a few parents from the field.

I don’t think you guys understand competitive soccer in 2018. It’s against the rules to yell at a ref.. this is a signed agreement that every player and parents make with the club. One of many.. including yelling period, unless it’s encouragement. The coach will kick the parents out before the ref will, and the kid can face repercussions, including being removed from the team .. at no point would any parent be speaking to a referee, or even the coach on a child’s behalf. They have a 24 hour buffer requirement.

So maybe try to halt the stereotypes?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

As someone who worked in restaurants, I also don't know why it is a binary choice.

But, to some parents...it is.

The classic is when they come in to tell you their child can't work anymore because of "distraction". Not the kid, the parents.

Again, I'm pretty sure her kid is 10.

Ding, ding, ding. God I’m good!!!

I’m not making a connection between your Fox and Friends preference and health. It’s more so the tone of your posts and arguing style and your news source of choice. Which I nailed!

Right, because Rachel Maddow is the home for civil discourse.

 

[englanddg]

I don’t think you guys understand competitive soccer in 2018. It’s against the rules to yell at a ref.. this is a signed agreement that every player and parents make with the club. One of many.. including yelling period, unless it’s encouragement. The coach will kick the parents out before the ref will, and the kid can face repercussions, including being removed from the team .. at no point would any parent be speaking to a referee, or even the coach on a child’s behalf. They have a 24 hour buffer requirement.

So maybe try to halt the stereotypes?

Oh yes, club soccer didn't exist before 2018.

(rolls eyes)

 

[CaptainAmerica]

But that biologic fact will insulate them from suffering any side effects of teaching children how to eat...

That's not true at all. That biological fact is an imperative to consume calories and water, nothing more. It says nothing about vitamins and minerals, protein, balance, etc.

 

[englanddg]

Again, I'm pretty sure her kid is 10.


Right, because Rachel Maddow is the home for civil discourse.

Rachel Maddow is a god.

 

[DisneyDoctor]

I don’t think you guys understand competitive soccer in 2018. It’s against the rules to yell at a ref.. this is a signed agreement that every player and parents make with the club. One of many.. including yelling period, unless it’s encouragement. The coach will kick the parents out before the ref will, and the kid can face repercussions, including being removed from the team .. at no point would any parent be speaking to a referee, or even the coach on a child’s behalf. They have a 24 hour buffer requirement.

So maybe try to halt the stereotypes?

Ughhhhhh. I have no witty comeback.