Fountain & Bottled Drink, Popcorn, Pretzel, and Other Snack Item Prices Exponentially

Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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eliza61nyc said:
so when we go to Monco and monco for pizza here is the menu
https://mancospizza.com/ocean-city-menu/

plain pie with nothing on it 20.00 bucks with something on it. 25 bucks 1 pie.

When we go to Blaze
http://allears.net/dining/menu/blaze-fast-fired-pizza/lunch-dinner/

God bless you if you found a place to eat for 32 bucks a person. lol. here's one of our favorites
https://captainstableoc.com/dinner/

humm let me do the math. this is just what I got for dinner a few weeks ago.
13.00 little neck clams appertizer
30.00 two jumbo crab cakes
10.50 1 glass of proseco.
so for little ole me, I'm already at what's that 53.00 bucks and I'm not having lobster nor steak. so when I have my son's I can extrapolate 53*3 ~150.00-200 and this is without dessert.
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Oh boy...you honestly picked the most overpriced place/Block on the jersey shore.

Some of the casino spots are more competitive to be honest
 
Smiley/OCD

Smiley/OCD

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xdan0920 said:
No they aren’t.
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I live at the shore...YES, THEY ARE...Seaside, Pt. Pleasant, Asbury Park, LBI...need I go on? Now if you vacation in Keansburg...
If you drive off the island, OF COURSE, it's cheaper, just like if you drive off property...I can't believe it...arguing with people who live in my own state...now I see why we have the reputation we do....
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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eliza61nyc said:
where are you shopping that is equal to your raise???
that's been the argument for years. Hell, the cost of healthcare and college tuition has outstripped raises for decades now.
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It’s a joke...cost of living is not an accurate correlation to RPI In many cases...

Don’t you know I’m always serious?
 
eliza61nyc

eliza61nyc

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Oh boy...you honestly picked the most overpriced place/Block on the jersey shore.

Some of the casino spots are more competitive to be honest
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:rolleyes: I picked it because of the same reason folks put up with Disney prices. It's convenient and right there. Yes of course there are cheaper places at the shore. there are also cheaper places in Orlando.

If you want to stay INSIDE the bubble, it's gonna cost you. If you want your pizza right on the boardwalk, it's gonna cost you.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Smiley/OCD said:
I live at the shore...YES, THEY ARE...Seaside, Pt. Pleasant, Asbury Park, LBI...need I go on? Now if you vacation in Keansburg...
If you drive off the island, OF COURSE, it's cheaper, just like if you drive off property...I can't believe it...arguing with people who live in my own state...now I see why we have the reputation we do....
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I think you’ve been drinking too much of the water...

There are some egregious prices on cutthroat shore...but just like Disney rarely is accurate...including here.
 
MrPromey

MrPromey

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pjkdog said:
Also McDonald's is competing against every fast food or gas station around, trying to get you to come in and buy food and soda. Disney has its captive audience. I suppose we can thank Sea World and Universal, if they were not competing the price increases might be 3 times higher!
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Absolutely. My only point was that the person I was responding to seemed to be suggesting that the profits Disney was making on soda wasn't wildly outrageous. We all know it is.

Should they be or shouldn't they be making crazy money this way? That's a matter of opinion but they definitely are.

Unlike other examples where a movie theater makes little or no profit off a movie ticket or a sports venue where the money collected for concessions typically gets split a number of ways, including paying multi-million dollar salaries for sports starts and not the least of which goes to local municipalities who pony up tens or hundreds of millions of dollars for stadiums that sit empty most of the time and never end up becoming profitable for them, etc., the economics of these premium prices work out a lot more in Disney's favor than most.

Again, is it right or wrong of them to do that? Nobody is ever going to see eye-to-eye on that discussion. I'm not even interested in joining that debate.

Could Disney have kept the parks open at current staffing levels without going out of business or losing money?

I'm sure they could have.

Could they have implemented more modest increases or been more selective of where the increases occurred and still improved profitability?

Again, that's certainly a yes.

Were they under any obligation to do these things?

Absolutely not.

Am I personally a less loyal customer as they continue to raise prices across the board, cut things and replace longer attractions with shorter ones that result in me spending more money to spend more of my day in lines and less time actually enjoying things in the parks than I used to?

Absolutely. That is just how I feel personally, though.

I don't like any of it but I don't hold a moral grudge against them for it.

... For now at least, it appears to be working out for them. We'll see if they are impacted when the next financial crisis hits like they were with the last one.

Maybe their customers at that level won't blink or maybe they will.

Maybe moving out of the middle class is an effort to insulate them from people who might be more heavily impacted by such things?

Who's to say?

Wait, I think I just figured it out. That Martin Short! This is all his damn fault! HIS RESIDUALS FOR THE MOVIE IN CANADA ARE WHAT IS CAUSING ALL THESE PRICE HIKES!

#boycotcanadainepcot
 
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StarshipDisney

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The price increases should not surprise anyone. Adding parking charges and other cuts of late did not remotely bring in enough profit. I won't be surprised if the drink cups and portions are also smaller to go along with the price increases. That would seem in-line with recent history.

The current management of WDW does not care about anything but profits! They do not love the parks/resorts and only see them a means to greed. Such a shame!
 
Club Cooloholic

Club Cooloholic

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MrPromey said:
Absolutely. My only point was that the person I was responding to seemed to be suggesting that the profits Disney was making on soda wasn't wildly outrageous. We all know it is.

Should they be or shouldn't they be making crazy money this way? That's a matter of opinion but they definitely are.

Unlike other examples where a movie theater makes little or no profit off a movie ticket or a sports venue where the money collected for concessions typically gets split a number of ways, including paying multi-million dollar salaries for sports starts and not the least of which goes to local municipalities who pony up tens or hundreds of millions of dollars for stadiums that sit empty most of the time and never end up becoming profitable for them, etc., the economics of these premium prices work out a lot more in Disney's favor than most.

Again, is it right or wrong of them to do that? Nobody is ever going to see eye-to-eye on that discussion. I'm not even interested in joining that debate.

Could Disney have kept the parks open at current staffing levels without going out of business or losing money?

I'm sure they could have.

Could they have implemented more modest increases or been more selective of where the increases occurred and still improved profitability?

Again, that's certainly a yes.

Were they under any obligation to do these things?

Absolutely not.

Am I personally a less loyal customer as they continue to raise prices across the board, cut things and replace longer attractions with shorter ones that result in me spending more money to spend more of my day in lines and less time actually enjoying things in the parks than I used to?

Absolutely. That is just how I feel personally, though.

I don't like any of it but I don't hold a moral grudge against them for it.

... For now at least, it appears to be working out for them. We'll see if they are impacted when the next financial crisis hits like they were with the last one. Maybe their customers at that level won't blink or maybe they will. Maybe moving out of the middle class is an effort to insulate them from people who might be more heavily impacted by such things?

Who's to say?

Wait, I think I just figured it out. That bas**ard Martin Short! This is all his damn fault! HIS RESIDUALS FOR THE MOVIE IN CANADA ARE WHAT IS CAUSING ALL THESE PRICE HIKES!

#boycotcanadainepcot
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I feel that crash will happen in the next 2 years. I debated buying into the dvc this year instead of waiting for that reason lol. But ah well it's a trip next year and we plan to treat the inlaws
 
Club Cooloholic

Club Cooloholic

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eliza61nyc said:
:rolleyes: I picked it because of the same reason folks put up with Disney prices. It's convenient and right there. Yes of course there are cheaper places at the shore. there are also cheaper places in Orlando.

If you want to stay INSIDE the bubble, it's gonna cost you. If you want your pizza right on the boardwalk, it's gonna cost you.
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I'm sensing ocnj! Come on plenty of places got those dollar waters
 
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MrPromey

MrPromey

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DisneyCane said:
McDonald's operates on a very different business model than WDW. They strive for low overhead and high volume at low gross margins. Theme parks, sports venues, movie theatres, etc. have high overhead and their volume is limited by the "audience" at any given time.

I posted my comment because of the attitude that the raw materials to make soda cost almost nothing so Disney should sell it for slightly above nothing.

Food and drink in a theme park isn't a commodity so it isn't priced based on supply and demand reaching a market balance. It is sold based on maximizing profit. The goal is not to sell as much as possible. It is to reach the balance between sales and cost of the sales to maximize profit.

If Disney halved the price of soda and doubled sales as a result (which wouldn't happen), they would make less profit because it would cost more in staffing and maintenance to sell twice as much.

There is a reason why places like Taco bell have their "happy hour" deals on things like soda and frozen carbonated beverages. They've determined that during those hours, they are already staffed at a minimum so driving additional sales during those times with lower prices will lead to higher profit. If they price too low, they will have to add staff which will defeat the purpose.

I can buy ingredients at Publix to make a steak dinner FAR cheaper than I can get it for in a restaurant. I'm paying for the preparation and "experience" of eating out. It's the same with food and beverages at WDW.
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Thank you for the full explanation. I understand all that - I'm not an idiot.

Maybe you're right to think I'm stupid, though. Maybe my reading comprehension isn't that good because I missed how all of this was implied by "Disney probably gets a good deal on syrup but, in general, it isn't as cheap as people think... ".

It generally is about "as cheap as people think" and nothing you wrote here in response refutes that.

Of course they are maximizing profit. I think everyone on both sides of this discussion is aware of that and as I said before, cost has almost nothing to do with the price of anything at Disney, just like it has almost nothing to do with price anywhere else in a modern capitalist society.
 
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MrPromey

MrPromey

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eliza61nyc said:
so when we go to Monco and monco for pizza here is the menu
https://mancospizza.com/ocean-city-menu/

plain pie with nothing on it 20.00 bucks with something on it. 25 bucks 1 pie.

When we go to Blaze
http://allears.net/dining/menu/blaze-fast-fired-pizza/lunch-dinner/
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In the case of Blaze, that's a pizza for one. Is that Ocean city pizza also that small?

That's an honest question. I couldn't really tell at a glance.

BTW, if you don't mind waiting in line to get in during a normal meal times and can actually find a place to sit crammed in with everyone else on the benches, I think Blaze is great. It's also atypical for that level of food pricing in WDW, though.

Interestingly enough, D-Lux Burger (same issue with overcrowding) is also reasonably priced and at lower prices, offers considerably higher quality than in the parks but that's of course, because Disney knows you're in Disney Springs. They have to be competitive with businesses that aren't operated or property managed by Disney since at that point, you are in near walking distance of other options so the monopoly power they enjoy in the parks isn't there.
 
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