For those who will miss Sorceror Mickey's Hat from DHS

[Goofyernmost]

As far as the location of the water tower, however, I totally agree. Having it in the middle would be out of place for the theming you describe. However, that is all the more reason that the water town fails as an icon...because it is meant to be hidden away and rarely seen.

I can accept that the Chinese theater would be the ideal icon. But it lacks scale that the castle, ball, or tree have.

I have to ask were is the outrage that in DAK the Tree of Life isn't in your face as you walk into the park. ToL isn't all that impressive until you get close enough to it to experience the dimensions that one gets that awestruck feeling.

They seem to have reinforced that the Water Tower in DHS is staying as the Icon so whatever they change in the park it will remain with some connection to entertainment studios. With that change, I think I have stated before, that the Tower minus the backlot tour will have much better public access and be more impressive then it is now. If DHS is to remain credible it has to conform to the fact that not everything there has a direct Disney connection. The hat, where it was placed implied that this whole place was a shrine to Disney Studio's. It isn't now and never has been. The Earful tower was and is a tribute to the Disney Studios in California specifically and symbolizes the world of movies and entertainment in general.

I'm also thinking that it has equal scale to the BAH and at the very least is not another spot to vacuum the money out of your wallets.

It also is a real thing found in the real world like trees, castles and big round buildings. The hat was a cartoon and although a good one, we all have to remember that the Fantasia was not that well received in its day. It was around the third generation of Disney Fans that because of WDW have grown to appreciate the movie and it's significance . The vast majority of the world would not have any idea what it was about.

 

[BrerJon]

With that change, I think I have stated before, that the Tower minus the backlot tour will have much better public access and be more impressive then it is now.

I hadn't thought of that, but I like your idea of increased access to the Earful Tower. The only reason the tower was off limits was because it was on the studio lot and on the tour, but if the lot and tour is no more, and that whole area is becoming attractions, why not have a walking path up to the tower, a Photopass plaza in front of it... heck even a pin stand would be fine by me, as long as the Chinese Theater view was left alone!

Also Disneyland's castle is much smaller than the Chinese Theater, and they seem to do OK, so I don't think the size of a weenie is as important as many think.

 

[xdan0920]

so I don't think the size of a weenie is as important as many think.

That's a relief.

 

[Phil12]

Also Disneyland's castle is much smaller than the Chinese Theater, and they seem to do OK, so I don't think the size of a weenie is as important as many think.

But Disneyland is tiny compared to DHS. Also, Disneyland is really a prototype park which served its purpose to help make a bigger and better WDW.

 

[Hakunamatata]

Also Disneyland's castle is much smaller than the Chinese Theater, and they seem to do OK, so I don't think the size of a weenie is as important as many think.

 

[Hakunamatata]

But Disneyland is tiny compared to DHS. Also, Disneyland is really a prototype park which served its purpose to help make a bigger and better WDW.

That's debateable.

 

[mm52200]

But Disneyland is tiny compared to DHS. Also, Disneyland is really a prototype park which served its purpose to help make a bigger and better WDW.

Ummm actually Disneyland park might be bigger than DHS. DHS is the smallest park at WDW in terms of guest accessible areas. Disneyland was hardly a prototype which served as a purpose to build WDW which while bigger is not necessarily better. Disneyland was it's own entity and Walt had entirely different plans for the Florida project than what panned out. So the Chinese Theatre probably is the perfect size for DHS.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Ummm actually Disneyland park might be bigger than DHS. DHS is the smallest park at WDW in terms of guest accessible areas. Disneyland was hardly a prototype which served as a purpose to build WDW which while bigger is not necessarily better. Disneyland was it's own entity and Walt had entirely different plans for the Florida project than what panned out. So the Chinese Theatre probably is the perfect size for DHS.

Especially since there was not a single purpose targeted at DHS (then Disney/MGM). It was a general entertainment venue so having one section stand out above the rest would not have been beneficial. That is one of the reasons why the Hat, it's size and it's location, were just not very well thought out for anything other then a 1 year celebration of Walt Disney's birth. No, I think that the more subtle use of the Earful Tower is a much better icon for the park than any one single defining object would be. With all the IP's presently represented in the park, which one could you choose to enlarge? The tower just plain works.

 

[Disneycrazy752]

I know my daughters were complaining about the change of it being gone. I think a lot time people do not like change. I know on our next visit it will be very different because of taking pictures in front of it every year.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Except that it is no longer MGM or just Hollywood studios. It is _Disney's_ Hollywood studios. Giant Indiana jones hat would be out of place (though I guess disney does now own Lucas film). The iceberg as well. And there is nothing iconic about a penguin from Mary poppins. However, mickeys hat is iconic and hardens back to the beginning of the disney cartoon movie magic. We'll have to agree to disagree. And hey, you win because it is leaving.

"Disney's" in the title is branding, not the theme. Disney as a theme can only work for decor, not experience.

But Disneyland is tiny compared to DHS. Also, Disneyland is really a prototype park which served its purpose to help make a bigger and better WDW.

More nonsense not based in reality. Hollywood Blvd is patterned after Main Street, USA at Disneyland.

 

[Sage of Time]

"Disney's" in the title is branding, not the theme. Disney as a theme can only work for decor, not experience.


More nonsense not based in reality. Hollywood Blvd is patterned after Main Street, USA at Disneyland.

Oddly enough, they share similar scales, too.

And Disneyland, a prototype for the bigger and better WDW? Goodness, no. Disney World is wonderful, but it is not just the second attempt at Disneyland. And Disneyland, while it is VERY different from WDW and much smaller and more quaint, it not just a prototype. It is its own entity.

 

[sjhym333]

Won't miss it in front of the Chinese Theater but would be happy if Disney found an appropriate alternate location for the hat. The hat wasn't bad in my opinion, just the placement

 

[Foolish Mortal]

You could say a broomstick was as iconic as a hat for Fantasia.

Your the best Martin !! thanks for laugh, I really needed that today !!

 

[FettFan]

The hat could have fit if it was tastefully placed like in Paris... animation attraction meet Mickey's hat! It fits the theme! Huzzah

Are those the same golden characters from the Magic Kingdom gilded castle?

 

[wdisney9000]

(I know it's blasphemy putting those two words in the same sentence)

Halt, Unbeliever!

 

[FettFan]

You could say a broomstick was as iconic as a hat for Fantasia.

Even more iconic?

ALL HAIL CHERNABOG.

 

[BrerJon]

Even more iconic?

ALL HAIL CHERNABOG.

This has made me realise where they should put the hat, for those upset about their photo ops.

I really think Disney could build a small fifth gate, 'Night Kingdom', based around Villains, with mainly meet-and-greets and a couple of rollercoasters, and if they did... well what better to serve as the 'icon' (perhaps at the end of Evil Street USA) than a resurrected BAH, the most striking example of corporate evil ever to darken Walt Disney World.

 

[Phil12]

Ummm actually Disneyland park might be bigger than DHS. DHS is the smallest park at WDW in terms of guest accessible areas. Disneyland was hardly a prototype which served as a purpose to build WDW which while bigger is not necessarily better. Disneyland was it's own entity and Walt had entirely different plans for the Florida project than what panned out. So the Chinese Theatre probably is the perfect size for DHS.

Perhaps this will help:

DISNEYLAND RESORT - 510 acres (Walt originally bought 160 acres)
Disneyland - 85 acres
Disney's California Adventure - 55 acres (will expand to 67 acres with Carsland)
Downtown Disney - 20 acres
WALT DISNEY WORLD RESORT - 25,000 acres (Walt originally bought 27,400 acres, but pieces have been sold off)
Magic Kingdom - 107 acres
Epcot - 305 acres
Disney's Hollywood Studios - 135 acres
Disney's Animal Kingdom - 410 acres (500 including parking lots)
Disney's Typhoon Lagoon - 56 acres (this may include parking lots)
Disney's Blizzard Beach - 66 acres (this may include parking lots)
Downtown Disney - 120 acres (this may include parking lots)
Pleasure Island - 8 acres
ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex - 220 acres
TOKYO DISNEYLAND RESORT - 494 acres
Tokyo Disneyland - 115 acres
Tokyo DisneySea - 176 acres
DISNEYLAND RESORT PARIS - 4,800 acres
Disneyland Paris - 140 acres
Walt Disney Studios Paris - 62 acres
HONG KONG DISNEYLAND RESORT - 311 acres
Hong Kong Disneyland - 55 acres (will expand to 68 acres with Grizzly Gulch, Mystic Point and Toy Story Land)
CASTAWAY CAY (Disney's private island) - 1,000 acres (only 55 of which are developed)
Total Disney Acreage: 32,115
Total Acreage of Parks: 1,552 (1,430 without waterparks)
Largest Resort: Walt Disney World Resort
Smallest Resort: Hong Kong Disneyland Resort
Largest Park: Disney's Animal Kingdom
Smallest Park: Disney's California Adventure
Average Park Size: 130 acres

http://disneyology.blogspot.com/2010/03/disney-park-and-resort-sizes.html

 

[lazyboy97o]

Perhaps this will help:

DISNEYLAND RESORT - 510 acres (Walt originally bought 160 acres)
Disneyland - 85 acres
Disney's California Adventure - 55 acres (will expand to 67 acres with Carsland)
Downtown Disney - 20 acres
WALT DISNEY WORLD RESORT - 25,000 acres (Walt originally bought 27,400 acres, but pieces have been sold off)
Magic Kingdom - 107 acres
Epcot - 305 acres
Disney's Hollywood Studios - 135 acres
Disney's Animal Kingdom - 410 acres (500 including parking lots)
Disney's Typhoon Lagoon - 56 acres (this may include parking lots)
Disney's Blizzard Beach - 66 acres (this may include parking lots)
Downtown Disney - 120 acres (this may include parking lots)
Pleasure Island - 8 acres
ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex - 220 acres
TOKYO DISNEYLAND RESORT - 494 acres
Tokyo Disneyland - 115 acres
Tokyo DisneySea - 176 acres
DISNEYLAND RESORT PARIS - 4,800 acres
Disneyland Paris - 140 acres
Walt Disney Studios Paris - 62 acres
HONG KONG DISNEYLAND RESORT - 311 acres
Hong Kong Disneyland - 55 acres (will expand to 68 acres with Grizzly Gulch, Mystic Point and Toy Story Land)
CASTAWAY CAY (Disney's private island) - 1,000 acres (only 55 of which are developed)
Total Disney Acreage: 32,115
Total Acreage of Parks: 1,552 (1,430 without waterparks)
Largest Resort: Walt Disney World Resort
Smallest Resort: Hong Kong Disneyland Resort
Largest Park: Disney's Animal Kingdom
Smallest Park: Disney's California Adventure
Average Park Size: 130 acres

http://disneyology.blogspot.com/2010/03/disney-park-and-resort-sizes.html

Still irrelevant, but do keep trying to make up stuff to fit your unfounded belief.

 

[Phil12]

Still irrelevant, but do keep trying to make up stuff to fit your unfounded belief.

Well said. Facts are irrelevant when they don't bolster your notions. I already knew that from previous reading.