First the napkins, now the cups?

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RSoxNo1

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When I called and cancelled my reservation at the Beach Club last week and the operator asked why, it was one of the reasons I used. I told her I was very disheartened by all the cheap cutbacks at WDW as of late.
Good work. Did you get a full refund?
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
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Yes.

I apologize you took such offense to it, it wasn't meant to be overtly accusatory but the facts are the facts and it remains that Disney is a major corporation, every major corporation operates in much the same way ... just as @ParentsOf4 outlined.

Do I have pay stubs to show you? Of course not, but this isn't some ground breaking news I'm busting out here, this is pretty standard corporate procedure. Management bonuses are tied with financial success i.e. the bottom line, the more profitable the company is the higher the bonuses ... business 101.
I'm impressed you have detailed knowledge of the compensation guidelines of every major corporation.

I'm also curious where you took business 101 so I don't send my kids there.
 

Jimmy Thick

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I should make a poll for the next item currently enjoying a Disney themeing that will get punished with a black or generic visualization.


Jimmy Thick- My money is on the resort itself!!!
 

tomman710

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I'm impressed you have detailed knowledge of the compensation guidelines of every major corporation.

I'm also curious where you took business 101 so I don't send my kids there.

Well, that's the beauty of message boards, right?

We all can have our opinions.

However, I find it disconcerting that you are so quick to criticize someone you don't know anything about. (Granted that's the other inherent problem with message boards.)

However to answer your question:

Bachelor's Degrees from University of Texas and Rice University
Graduate School was Stanford
 

RSoxNo1

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I hate the cheapening of things if that's indeed what's going on here. Having said that, Sunshine Seasons is the best counter service location in any park.
 

tomman710

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On a personal level I'm used to it, but why are you insulting yet another poster? Their information, as they said, isn't anything earth shattering. It's common sense.

I should not have alluded to it being common business practice.

It's understandable if people don't know this, plenty of people have not worked for large corporations.

Unfortunately/Fortunately I've worked for two Fortune 500 and one Fortune 100 company so I do have first hand knowledge from executive levels.

I apologize for assuming everyone should know this, that's not really fair.
 

captainkidd

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I should not have alluded to it being common business practice.

It's understandable if people don't know this, plenty of people have not worked for large corporations.

Unfortunately/Fortunately I've worked for two Fortune 500 and one Fortune 100 company so I do have first hand knowledge from executive levels.

I apologize for assuming everyone should know this, that's not really fair.

Nothing to apologize for. I found it common sense, not just common business knowledge.
 

jensenrick

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Does this cup/napkin change thing happen regularly? Like a back and forth of sometimes they're custom and sometimes they're generic?
The reason I ask is because I noticed a "Coke" cup yesterday (or Monday), while reading "WDW Pictures from the 80's" thread in the General Discussion. Take a look at page 7, I believe.

QFT
 

Figment1986

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Have you ever tried calling Busch Gardens Williamsburg? It goes right to Orlando to a person that's never been there, "Thank you for calling Sea World and Busch Gardens my name is ____"

I thought BGW had a small 9-5 call center near them... for specialized things

WDW is in Florida. BGW is in Virginia. At least your talking to someone thats actually been there.

Many of the TMs at the call centers are encouraged with things to visit the other parks... or at LEAST take a trip to SeaWorld Orlando and Busch Gardens Tampa... (harder to visit California and Texas...)
 

ellie-badge

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You think it's silly. I think it's degrees of the same concept. The point of my earlier post (hence the emphasis on sarcasm) is that at some point, WDW will take away something that you like. Please respect other people's opinions when WDW takes away something that they like.

I never meant to disrespect your opinion, nor do I doubt that Disney will take away something that I like. All I said was that I thought it was silly to compare what I think are two very unlike things that way.
 

jsf2011

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I used to work at Busch Gardens Williamsburg's call center, it's on John Young parkway near Sea World in Florida. Pretty sure I was one of the only people that worked there that has actually been there. You know what it's like to get a call "Hi, I am on the highway heading to Sesame Place how far is it from _____" and your sitting in Central Florida not knowing what the hell they are talking about, it's hard for me to take what you say seriously about Busch being better than Disney.
 

prberk

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Have you ever tried calling Busch Gardens Williamsburg? It goes right to Orlando to a person that's never been there, "Thank you for calling Sea World and Busch Gardens my name is ____"

It wasn't always like that. And for that I would chastise them also!
 

ellie-badge

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I don't think it's silly at all. Disney is, and as has always been for many, about the small details.

I agree, the little things truly complete the Disney Experience. I actually do miss the old napkins and cups, I just thought comparing them to rides or attractions was a bit over the top.
 

HM Spectre

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I think it's silly to compare the design on a paper cup that will likely be thrown away within the hour your beverage was purchased to an actual attraction.

Have you ever really gotten into a movie and then noticed a boom mic in a shot or had a character start speaking jargon that you know is wrong? It taints the experience. Sure, the product as a whole might still be enjoyable but it's the attention to detail and the little things that make it great. What's worse is when those little nitpicks add up to something that is entirely noticeable.

You never know what small little detail will make someone's day or be special for them... the best practice is to put in as many of them in the parks as possible so that one eventually will.
 

prberk

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It really is endearing to see someone care about the details. It has lasting effect, not on everyone, but on many. It makes a difference in reputation, which definitely affects not only future return visits but in word-of-mouth.

Are we talking about one napkin? No. We are talking about the cumulative effect of special experiences and attention to detail. Nothing can beat that in word-of-mouth repution.

These probably are temporary cups, and maybe the same for the blank napkins -- ones supplied by the vendor on short notice. But that in itself may indicate a lack of planning.

I had a friend who owns a small local business (trash hauling) who built it from the start with her husband and his pickup truck, and now has 3,000 customers. She built her reputation on attention to detail and customer service -- they would pick your cans up from the backyard if asked.

She was once at an Olive Garden with me twice in the same month. The first time, she ordered coffee and the restaurant was out of sugar packets. They told her that the truck had not come in yet, with the sugar packets. She asked didn't they use sugar in the kitchen, and they said yes. They were surprised when she expected them to bring her sugar from the kitchen's supply.

The next visit, they were out of the vanilla ice cream on the featured dessert. She was again told that the truck would not be in for another few days with more ice cream. She asked the manager had they considered going to the grocery store in the same shopping center and getting more vanilla ice cream, and he reluctantly said that they had actually aready done that a couple of times. She said it was time to do that again! (They did, and she got her dessert, exactly as it was featured on the picture on the big ad.) She stopped going to OG for a long while, though.

The point is, while things happen, the attention to detail, both in planning AND in service or execution go a long way. The little things matter. Everyone makes mistakes, and sometimes you have to accept something lesser. But both then (how you respond to a problem) AND in the planning (like making even the napkins special), the little things make a difference in reputation... and affect the bottom line.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
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Well, that's the beauty of message boards, right?

We all can have our opinions.

However, I find it disconcerting that you are so quick to criticize someone you don't know anything about. (Granted that's the other inherent problem with message boards.)

However to answer your question:

Bachelor's Degrees from University of Texas and Rice University
Graduate School was Stanford
My comment was directed toward the statement that all major businesses do it this way. You do obviously have knowledge of the business world and I respect that. You are also well educated at two fine schools from Texas (having been a lifelong Texan until recently I know the quality those two institutes oh higher learning demand). Although I disagree that all major corporations top end leadership look only for ways to pump up their bonuses.

The comment about where I'm sending my kids is a valid one as I'm afraid many institutions graduate young people with the philosophy that corporations are nothing more than a place to get benefits and a paycheck and are sources of endless cash. I should not have assumed you attended one of those educational institutions. That was wrong on my part.
 
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