First Look of Ariel's Undersea Adventure

hpyhnt 1000

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If the 6.5 minutes is correct as well as the 660 feet, than I think that works out to a little over 1 mph for the speed of the ride.

Does anyone know how this compares to SSE, HM or Nemo? I tried looking it up for point of reference but am failing miserably.

Well, 1 mph=1.46 feet/second, which is comparable to the speed of a moving walkway or escalator (and other omnimover attractions).
 

ght

Well-Known Member
I found this part interesting: "Outside, to monitor progress of Carsland, a new overlook has been added, allowing guests to watch as the addition to the park is being built.". They get an overlook, we get more trees to obstruct the view? :shrug:

Well, in their defense, keeping an illusion of being immersed in your respective land (i.e. keeping Fantasyland and Tomorrow land as separate as possible) is much more important in the MK (or any DL-style park) than it is in DCA, where you can see the hotels across the street on certain rides.
 

jt04

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I found this part interesting: "Outside, to monitor progress of Carsland, a new overlook has been added, allowing guests to watch as the addition to the park is being built.". They get an overlook, we get more trees to obstruct the view? :shrug:

One of the coolest details I have ever seen. I'd bet it is a permanent feature and not just for the construction of Carsland. Amazing.
 

Neverland

Active Member
To bring up something else pertaining to Ariel's Undersea Adventure, I thought it was worth mentioning that a while back, my trainer told me we'd be getting new costumes designed specifically for the ride. As of now, all Fantasyland attractions CMs wear the lederhosen costume, but TLM will have a unique costume, a la Haunted Mansion or Jungle Cruise. Just thought that that was lovely theming. :) Especially since lederhosen don't really fit with TLM. They barely fit with Winnie the Pooh.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
If the 6.5 minutes is correct as well as the 660 feet, than I think that works out to a little over 1 mph for the speed of the ride.

The update to the Blue Sky Cellar has a series of blueprints showing the evolution of the track layout, one of which appears to match the final layout that was shown a while back. The notes on the drawing say Track Length 624', Cycle Time 6m30s, Ride Time 5m34s, and Vehicle Count 104.

You can see the drawing here about half way down the page.
 

NYwdwfan

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Well, in their defense, keeping an illusion of being immersed in your respective land (i.e. keeping Fantasyland and Tomorrow land as separate as possible) is much more important in the MK (or any DL-style park) than it is in DCA, where you can see the hotels across the street on certain rides.

Good point. I've never been to DL or DCL so I sometimes don't get the park nuances (or lack thereof, in this case).
 

Skipper03

Member
I am really looking forward to this attraction. This is one of my favorite Disney animated films so to see it come to life will be great. I have not done the stage show at the studio in years.

And I don't know if they've updated that show in years! :lol: Oh it's so bad...

I hope once TLM opens at MK they can update The Studios with several new things, including a dark ride or something in this space... anything but that poor neglected show. It's served it's purpose well, but has out-lived it's glory days!
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
I feel this has been posted but I can't find it - how many total vehicles will be in this attraction? I assume it will be the same in DCA and Florida?

108 Clams in the DCA version.

Although there's really space for 109 vehicles, since the wheelchair accesible clamshell takes up two spaces on the track. There are only 4 empty clamshells between the Unload and Load belts, unlike Omnimovers like Mansion where the empty vehicles twist and travel along a longer length of track in backstage areas before they show up at the Load belt.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
One of the coolest details I have ever seen. I'd bet it is a permanent feature and not just for the construction of Carsland. Amazing.

It's actually the entrance patio of the Blue Sky Cellar, and was built as the original pre-show area of the old Seasons Of The Vine show that was there from 2001 to 2008. It's an elevated patio above the old parade route, and it just happens to have a straight shot view into the Cars Land construction area. They bolted some nice Cars Land explanatory artwork to the handrailing, and VOILA!, you've got a perfect view into the new land.

Here's a view of that elevated patio back in '08, just before that old theater attraction was transformed into the Blue Sky Cellar. The new "Cars Land Overlook" signage is afixed to those black wrought iron railings on the edge of the patio.

March2008210.jpg
 

TP2000

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The update to the Blue Sky Cellar has a series of blueprints showing the evolution of the track layout, one of which appears to match the final layout that was shown a while back. The notes on the drawing say Track Length 624', Cycle Time 6m30s, Ride Time 5m34s, and Vehicle Count 104.

You can see the drawing here about half way down the page.

That's actually an older version of the ride.

The new preview center exhibit at DCA has a series of blueprints for proposed versions of the ride showing how a major attraction transforms as the designs progress. The blueprint you reference was one of the more recent ones from '08, yet still not the final product.

The track layout has since changed a bit, especially in the Under The Sea room, and the showrooms in the last half of the ride expanded and flexed a bit from that version. The final version with 108 vehicles is found in this full color schematic of Mermaid shown in the Blue Sky Cellar;

http://www./wp-content/uploads/2010/06/4695115260_d321d6d94e3.jpg
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
That's actually an older version of the ride.

The new preview center exhibit at DCA has a series of blueprints for proposed versions of the ride showing how a major attraction transforms as the designs progress. The blueprint you reference was one of the more recent ones from '08, yet still not the final product.

The track layout has since changed a bit, especially in the Under The Sea room, and the showrooms in the last half of the ride expanded and flexed a bit from that version. The final version with 108 vehicles is found in this full color schematic of Mermaid shown in the Blue Sky Cellar;

Yeah, you are right, now that I look at them closer I see that they are slightly different.

Dan
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
To bring up something else pertaining to Ariel's Undersea Adventure, I thought it was worth mentioning that a while back, my trainer told me we'd be getting new costumes designed specifically for the ride. As of now, all Fantasyland attractions CMs wear the lederhosen costume, but TLM will have a unique costume, a la Haunted Mansion or Jungle Cruise. Just thought that that was lovely theming. :) Especially since lederhosen don't really fit with TLM. They barely fit with Winnie the Pooh.

Agreed and this is good news. Thanks.

It's actually the entrance patio of the Blue Sky Cellar, and was built as the original pre-show area of the old Seasons Of The Vine show that was there from 2001 to 2008. It's an elevated patio above the old parade route, and it just happens to have a straight shot view into the Cars Land construction area. They bolted some nice Cars Land explanatory artwork to the handrailing, and VOILA!, you've got a perfect view into the new land.

Here's a view of that elevated patio back in '08, just before that old theater attraction was transformed into the Blue Sky Cellar. The new "Cars Land Overlook" signage is afixed to those black wrought iron railings on the edge of the patio.

March2008210.jpg

Thanks for the information. More confirmation WDI still has it.
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
The update to the Blue Sky Cellar has a series of blueprints showing the evolution of the track layout, one of which appears to match the final layout that was shown a while back. The notes on the drawing say Track Length 624', Cycle Time 6m30s, Ride Time 5m34s, and Vehicle Count 104.

You can see the drawing here about half way down the page.

That's actually an older version of the ride.

The new preview center exhibit at DCA has a series of blueprints for proposed versions of the ride showing how a major attraction transforms as the designs progress. The blueprint you reference was one of the more recent ones from '08, yet still not the final product.

The track layout has since changed a bit, especially in the Under The Sea room, and the showrooms in the last half of the ride expanded and flexed a bit from that version. The final version with 108 vehicles is found in this full color schematic of Mermaid shown in the Blue Sky Cellar;

http://www./wp-content/uploads/2010/06/4695115260_d321d6d94e3.jpg

Assuming 108 vehicles (2 guests per vehicle):
If the cycle time is 6 1/2 minutes than we're looking at 1994 guests per hour. If the cycle time is actually 5 minutes and 34 seconds then the capacity is 2328 per hour which is much closer to the numbers I've been hearing.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
Yeah, you are right, now that I look at them closer I see that they are slightly different.

Dan

Yeah, that's the tough part of sifting throught this latest batch of photos from the new update to the Blue Sky Cellar; it's hard to take everything in context if you haven't wandered through the actual exhibit.

You really have to see the Blue Sky Cellar in real life, and read all the little signage and post-its the Imagineers put next to every schematic or sketch or model every time they update the exhibits twice a year. It's a fascinating place to spend 30+ minutes in, as you pour over every blueprint detail and jotted down note that is often hard to pick up on by looking at pictures on the Interwebs.

But then, it gives Southern Californians like myself something to do to steer folks back in the right direction. :lol:

This latest Mermaid update to the Blue Sky Cellar focused a lot on the exterior of the building, the materials to be used in the stained glass and the lighting and such. There wasn't a whole lot of new info given about the interiors of the ride in this new exhibit, although there are some surprising details revealed that I"m sure will be shared with the WDW version for 2012. They also did some work updating the big video shown in the screening room, and the nifty new animated map on one of the stone wall in the screening area. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JtfvY-_Md8&NR=1

Rest assured WDW fans, we'll all have lots of actual footage and pictures of the Mermaid ride when it soft-opens in 90+ days though! Counting down... :sohappy:

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TP2000

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Thanks for the information. More confirmation WDI still has it.

I think they've always had it, even during the Pressler years. They just didn't always have a fat checkbook to back it up. The DCA makeover checkbook is bulging, and the FLE checkbook looks healthy too.

The Cars Land overlook signs they added to the Cellar patio is a brilliant move, and it's very hard to convey in pictures, but the Cars Land project is massive and yet totally cut off from the rest of the park since it's using virgin theme park land that used to be a parking lot until 2008.

This vista is what guests see from inside the park, and it sheds some light on what's going on beyond the existing park boundary and some construction walls.

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And yet, what guests can't see, is this massive expansion area that can only be really understood if you get in a helicopter like this...

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image source: MintCrocodile
 

kibia16

Active Member
I think they've always had it, even during the Pressler years. They just didn't always have a fat checkbook to back it up. The DCA makeover checkbook is bulging, and the FLE checkbook looks healthy too.

The Cars Land overlook signs they added to the Cellar patio is a brilliant move, and it's very hard to convey in pictures, but the Cars Land project is massive and yet totally cut off from the rest of the park since it's using virgin theme park land that used to be a parking lot until 2008.

This vista is what guests see from inside the park, and it sheds some light on what's going on beyond the existing park boundary and some construction walls.

1170441774_iDDPG-M.jpg


And yet, what guests can't see, is this massive expansion area that can only be really understood if you get in a helicopter like this...

1170519524_4v3mL-M.jpg


image source: MintCrocodile

I believe that the second photo is taken from the balconies on the side of TOT, not a helicopter. There have been pictures of people in construction vests on the balcony looking towards cars land.
 

Disco Yeti

Member
I don't want Carsland, so I hope we don't. The fewer lands devoted to single properties the better.

:sohappy:

Agreed 100%.

And if you absolutely must do it, why not give it a decent name (like "Radiator Springs") instead of "Carsland"? It really sounds as if the "name this land" project was handed off to the Laziest Imagineer in the World, and that his assignment was to "Help us find an incredibly awkward name for this concept so we can convince management to kill it."

Carsland. Pshhh. :rolleyes:
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
I believe that the second photo is taken from the balconies on the side of TOT, not a helicopter. There have been pictures of people in construction vests on the balcony looking towards cars land.

Oh my gosh, really?! How funny! I had assumed that was a helicopter shot, but I guess that is the height/location of the very top of the Tower of Terror Hotel now that you mention it. What a view!
 

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