EPCOT Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment

Cmdr_Crimson

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It's just a shame what we had got now of imageworks..They could have easily used a good portion of space for a version of Paint and Play similar to TDS and rethemed to the institute where Figment asks for your help to make a bland office space a colorful "splash" of inspiration.
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UNCgolf

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To be fair though.. who’s to say you couldn’t have both ImageWorks & the Play Pavilion? After all. For years we had a number of different interactive/hands on areas in EPCOT. So I wouldn’t quite put that out of the realm of possibility. i could easily see some type of AR/VR based experience being added to the ImageWorks if they wanted to.

Oh sure, there'd be no issue with having both.

I just don't think Disney looks at it that way. "Why reopen ImageWorks when we have the Play Pavilion? We can keep using it as a lounge instead."
 

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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I know in the grand scheme of things it means absolutely nothing, but our royal purple friend won D23's March Hare Mania bracket.

Hmmm.. I don’t know if I’d quite say that. This is the first year he’s actually won one of the March Magic brackets. Also, putting into perspective he beat out BOTH Mushu & Maleficent. Quite a feat if I do say so myself..
 

UNCgolf

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My concern is that they're going to say, "oh okay we need to keep Figment around" and then make him exactly like the Figment in the current ride, which is not what people want. Figment without Dreamfinder is mostly pointless and doesn't really work.

I think I'd rather have something completely original without Figment at all than something without Dreamfinder that uses the image of Figment without the correct personality -- not that they're likely to build something original if it doesn't include Figment.
 
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Brer Panther

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My concern is that they're going to say, "oh okay we need to keep Figment around" and then make him exactly like the Figment in the current ride, which is not what people want. Figment without Dreamfinder is mostly pointless and doesn't really work.

I think I'd rather have something completely original without Figment at all than something without Dreamfinder that uses the image of Figment without the correct personality -- not that they're likely to build something original if it doesn't include Figment.
Figment only acts the way he does in the current ride because he hated the second version as much as everyone else did and is calling out Nigel Channing on his bullcrap. So long as the fourth version doesn't have Nigel Channing in it, I think we'll be okay.
 

UNCgolf

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Figment only acts the way he does in the current ride because he hated the second version as much as everyone else did and is calling out Nigel Channing on his bullcrap. So long as the fourth version doesn't have Nigel Channing in it, I think we'll be okay.

Could be. I still don't think he's worth much without Dreamfinder; he was what made the original ride really work.

Also, do you really trust current Disney to make that distinction?
 

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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Figment only acts the way he does in the current ride because he hated the second version as much as everyone else did and is calling out Nigel Channing on his bullcrap. So long as the fourth version doesn't have Nigel Channing in it, I think we'll be okay.
He ‘actually’ acts that way to subtlety mock the fans/Friends of Figment that complained & “made a big stink” about the 1st redo. Hence why the whole message is that “Imagination is turning your thinking upside down” and why the sign outside is identical to Tiki Room: Under New Management. It’s practically the same attraction but with reverse roles. Have the old character/fans be the annoying interference rather than the new characters/IP. Pretty petty & pathetic, isn’t it?
Anyway, considering most of the merchandise is very clearly inspired or themed off elements of the original attraction. I’m pretty sure they won’t have him act like he does in the ‘02/current one again. Also, pretty redundant these days to use the Honey I Shrunk/Medfield College IP since those movies are practically irrelevant now. Not to mention, they have nothing to do with the creative process (then again, neither does the current ride. Lmao! It’s about sensory perception, not imagination)
 
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HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
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Could be. I still don't think he's worth much without Dreamfinder; he was what made the original ride really work.

Also, do you really trust current Disney to make that distinction?

I see Dreamfinder and Figment as yin and yang - They balance each other out perfectly. But balance at Epcot was thrown out 1997-ish in a misguided quest for thrills. And now alcohol sales and movie IP shoved in wherever they can.
 

FigmentJedi

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He ‘actually’ acts that way to subtlety mock the fans/Friends of Figment that complained & “made a big stink” about the 1st redo. Hence why the whole message is that “Imagination is turning your thinking upside down” and why the sign outside is identical to Tiki Room: Under New Management. It’s practically the same attraction but with reverse roles. Have the old character/fans be the annoying interference rather than the new characters/IP. Pretty petty & pathetic, isn’t it?
Anyway, considering most of the merchandise is very clearly inspired or themed off elements of the original attraction. I’m pretty sure they won’t have him act like he does in the ‘02/current one again. Also, pretty redundant these days to use the Honey I Shrunk/Medfield College IP since those movies are practically irrelevant now. Not to mention, they have nothing to do with the creative process (then again, neither does the current ride. Lmao! It’s about sensory perception, not imagination)
I don't believe this was the intent because it assumes that guests would go to an Imagination Institute to get generic hearing and vision tests. He's not interfering to annoy people, he's trying to save us from dying from boredom.
 

Homemade Imagineering

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They don’t need to force more things into SEA.
True, though you have to keep in mind, that it has its own fanbase, and said fanbase will only continue to grow overtime as S.E.A. is expanded. Plus, management is hellbent on theming everything around an already existing IP nowadays. Then again, with that said, I'd personally rather have an original series or movie dedicated to Imagination. Regardless, either scenario will help to convince the execs to greenlight the proper Imagination redo.
 

FigmentJedi

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They don’t need to force more things into SEA.
As mentioned earlier, the third Figment comic was going to go in a SEA connection direction with Dreamfinder and Figment's mission to unravel the secrets of Spaceship Earth before Marvel pulled the plug on the whole Disney Kingdoms line. And honestly, with Journey into Imagination and the SEA lore both being descended from the Discovery Bay concept, it's not as huge a stretch to bring them together as you might think.
 

Sir_Cliff

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My concern is that they're going to say, "oh okay we need to keep Figment around" and then make him exactly like the Figment in the current ride, which is not what people want. Figment without Dreamfinder is mostly pointless and doesn't really work.

I think I'd rather have something completely original without Figment at all than something without Dreamfinder that uses the image of Figment without the correct personality -- not that they're likely to build something original if it doesn't include Figment.
While I would like to see Figment and Dreamfinder back together again, I think Figment can stand on his own as a character. He probably could even act as the solo guide through some sort of Journey Into Imagination, IMO. The main thing is to restore his original personality, which is innocent and full of wonder rather than obnoxious and in your face.

It's really a testament to the original character design that they can still plaster the image of such an annoying character as the current iteration of Figment over so much merchandise and promotional materials.
 

Mickeynerd17

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It's really a testament to the original character design that they can still plaster the image of such an annoying character as the current iteration of Figment over so much merchandise and promotional materials.
That, and the stuff flies off the shelves. I keep seeing a lot of people with figment hats and other merch around Epcot (even though they stopped selling them a while ago, I have one.)

If only somebody could read all the signs. Sadly there have been obvious signs from fans for the last 18 years and nothing has happened.
 

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