EPCOT Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment

DreamfinderGuy

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Gotta admit there sure is a lot of really unwarranted doom and gloom about what may or may not happen in a project that is at least another five years out. Plenty of people who never rode the original ride know who Dreamfinder is, and even if they didn't a new ride will introduce them to him. We have no reason to believe they won't do it right if they ever get around to it.
 
Zak and Wheezie

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DreamfinderGuy said:
Gotta admit there sure is a lot of really unwarranted doom and gloom about what may or may not happen in a project that is at least another five years out. Plenty of people who never rode the original ride know who Dreamfinder is, and even if they didn't a new ride will introduce them to him. We have no reason to believe they won't do it right if they ever get around to it.
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I dunno, it just feels like they've been doing this for ages. I hope Disney will eventually do something but I feel like it's not much of a priority for them. Cause Gen Alpha (born 2013+) adore Figment and the ride. So they just don't feel that motivated to do a rework of the ride. Not to mention it'd cost far more money to refurb the ride and for some reason they refuse to spend the money to redo it. There has never been a ride more in need of a makeover since Figment. It should've been reworked 10 years ago.

The one bright spot I think, is that Figment has finally returned as a meet-and-greet character which makes me so happy. So that does give me some hope, that Imagineers are brainstorming ideas for a new Figment ride, with the return of the Dreamfinder.
 
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Jayspency

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Frodomar449 said:
I dunno, I just don't know him, if you know what I mean. I don't have the same attachment to Dreamfinder than, let's say, my mom born in 1970 would have had, because I have never experienced it, and actually seen Dreamfinder myself. I know that sounds weird, but it's definitely not the same watching VHS recordings of it.

It just feels like they've been doing this for ages. I hope Disney will eventually do something but I feel like it's not much of a priority for them. Cause Gen Alpha (born 2013+) adore Figment and the ride. So they just don't feel that motivated to do a rework of the ride. Not to mention it'd cost far more money to refurb the ride and for some reason they refuse to spend the money to redo it. There has never been a ride more in need of a makeover since Figment. It should've been reworked 10 years ago.

The one bright spot I think, is that Figment has finally returned as a meet-and-greet character which makes me so happy. So that does give me some hope, that Imagineers are brainstorming ideas for a new Figment ride, with the return of the Dreamfinder.
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Disney KNOWS how popular figment is. And I'm certain they know how much people love the original and how much people want a new version of this ride. I think that the reason that Disney hasn't done an update is because they don't know how well a ride like JII can appeal to the average tourist and therefore don't want to risk putting millions of dollars into it. The logic the execs use for creating IP based rides over original IP based rides is the same logic that has resulted in the abundance of Disney sequels. (just look at this year's D23) However if enough demand is there they will do it. And if the figment movie that is supposedly in development is a hit and puts figment in the public eye, I'm certain the ride will be updated. I think this might be Disney's plan.
 
Zak and Wheezie

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Jayspency said:
Disney KNOWS how popular figment is. And I'm certain they know how much people love the original and how much people want a new version of this ride. I think that the reason that Disney hasn't done an update is because they don't know how well a ride like JII can appeal to the average tourist and therefore don't want to risk putting millions of dollars into it. The logic the execs use for creating IP based rides over original IP based rides is the same logic that has resulted in the abundance of Disney sequels. (just look at this year's D23) However if enough demand is there they will do it. And if the figment movie that is supposedly in development is a hit and puts figment in the public eye, I'm certain the ride will be updated. I think this might be Disney's plan.
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I'm hoping the movie does numbers. It's rumored to be a Disney+ release but you never know. Just hope it's good.

The demand has been there for any of the people who have ridden the old ride. But Disney doesn't want to put the money forward yet.

I'm sure COVID-19 also played a factor in Figment not getting a rework; Spaceship Earth was going to get a refurbishment, but it got cancelled. But at least Spaceship Earth got the news of a refurbishment; Figment never even got that sadly. Hopefully, the pieces will come together to imagine a great big beautiful tomorrow for Figment and Dreamfinder.
 
Loose Pebble

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Frodomar449 said:
I'm hoping the movie does numbers. It's rumored to be a Disney+ release but you never know. Just hope it's good.

The demand has been there for any of the people who have ridden the old ride. But Disney doesn't want to put the money forward yet.

I'm sure COVID-19 also played a factor in Figment not getting a rework; Spaceship Earth was going to get a refurbishment, but it got cancelled. But at least Spaceship Earth got the news of a refurbishment; Figment never even got that sadly. Hopefully, the pieces will come together to imagine a great big beautiful tomorrow for Figment and Dreamfinder.
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Is the movie still happening? I thought a lot of the parks movies got put on hold (i.e., cancelled)
 
Zak and Wheezie

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MisterPenguin said:
I've never seen a purple dragon,
and I've never been one,
but if I had my druthers
I'd rather see, than be one.
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If there can be a Harold and The Purple Crayon movie and a Lyle Lyle Crocodile movie, there can be a Figment movie. And if there can be a Figment movie, there can be a Dragon Tales movie. I want us dragon fans to live in harmony. In the year 1999, Figment and Dreamfinder effectively died while Dragon Tales came out and went big, in the same part of the year too (fall 1999). June 2002, Figment came back but Dreamfinder was gone still. And Dragon Tales was at it's peak in the months following 9/11 up to 2004 where Dragon Tales had 11 million viewers weekly. Kodak pulled sponsorship in August 2010, and Dragon Tales stopped airing that same month. But then right after that Figment and Dreamfinder started getting love from Disney and they started acknowledging him again. It seems like if Figment is popular, Dragon Tales can't, and if Dragon Tales is popular, Figment can't.

My main point is, I wish I wish with all my heart, to see them both popular, not falling apart. I should probably talk about this in a specific thread for it but oh well.
 
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Bocabear

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They have an original IP that could be a huge franchise like Pirates turned out to be, but rather than move forward with any of this they keep beating a dead horse with sequel after sequel...and shoehorning ip into places it doesn't actually fit. The entire area around The Imagination Pavilion could be developed into something completely spectacular... The subject matter warrants it...A Wonderland of Imagination... Develop an origin story big-budget film for Dreamfinder ... I can't see any way this could fail if they do it right....and the park presence could be insane. It would be a HUUUGE success in the Asian parks as well. Maybe OLC needs to get this franchise and do it right.... I could care less about the new Cars thing, but an expanded and well done Figment and Dreamfinder in Epcot would certainly get my vote....
 
Disgruntled Walt

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Frodomar449 said:
If there can be a Harold and The Purple Crayon movie and a Lyle Lyle Crocodile movie, there can be a Figment movie. And if there can be a Figment movie, there can be a Dragon Tales movie. I want us dragon fans to live in harmony. In the year 1999, Figment and Dreamfinder effectively died while Dragon Tales came out and went big, in the same part of the year too (fall 1999). June 2002, Figment came back but Dreamfinder was gone still. And Dragon Tales was at it's peak in the months following 9/11 up to 2004 where Dragon Tales had 11 million viewers weekly. Kodak pulled sponsorship in August 2010, and Dragon Tales stopped airing that same month. But then right after that Figment and Dreamfinder started getting love from Disney and they started acknowledging him again. It seems like if Figment is popular, Dragon Tales can't, and if Dragon Tales is popular, Figment can't.

My main point is, I wish I wish with all my heart, to see them both popular, not falling apart. I should probably talk about this in a specific thread for it but oh well.
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Hello! When you meet somebody new, that's the first thing you should do. So hello.

I understand you're afraid that Figment and DragonTales can't both be popular. When I'm feeling scared about something, I usually hum.

Also, I just want to meet a character of Lorca. That guy's a dude.
 
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Frodomar449 said:
If there can be a Harold and The Purple Crayon movie and a Lyle Lyle Crocodile movie, there can be a Figment movie. And if there can be a Figment movie, there can be a Dragon Tales movie. I want us dragon fans to live in harmony. In the year 1999, Figment and Dreamfinder effectively died while Dragon Tales came out and went big, in the same part of the year too (fall 1999). June 2002, Figment came back but Dreamfinder was gone still. And Dragon Tales was at it's peak in the months following 9/11 up to 2004 where Dragon Tales had 11 million viewers weekly. Kodak pulled sponsorship in August 2010, and Dragon Tales stopped airing that same month. But then right after that Figment and Dreamfinder started getting love from Disney and they started acknowledging him again. It seems like if Figment is popular, Dragon Tales can't, and if Dragon Tales is popular, Figment can't.

My main point is, I wish I wish with all my heart, to see them both popular, not falling apart. I should probably talk about this in a specific thread for it but oh well.
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I really loved Lyle Lyle Crocodile. That was one of my favorite movies of all time. The singing crocodile was so much fun, all the singing was great. And, further talking about dragons is Dragon's Lair. I used to play that video game so much as a kid. It was so much fun. And, definitely, I always can't miss Figment whenever I'm at Disney. And, of course, who couldn't ever forget the oh so wonderful movie Pete's Dragon. I really prefer the remake with Bryce Dallas Howard (she has been great in a number of movies and her Dad is ok too, i guess, maybe, who knows). She was great in that spy movie recently I saw. I remember when I saw Pete's Dragon with my wonderful Mom a time ago how we were greeted with a laminated Pete's dragon bookmark. That really meant a lot. Istill have that downstairs and treasure it always. It's really one of the most favorite things that I have. Sorry about my tangent about Dragon's...
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Zak and Wheezie

Zak and Wheezie

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Disgruntled Walt said:
Hello! When you meet somebody new, that's the first thing you should do. So hello.

I understand you're afraid that Figment and DragonTales can't both be popular. When I'm feeling scared about something, I usually hum.

Also, I just want to meet a character of Lorca. That guy's a dude.
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Yeah people mistake Lorca as a girl a lot. Actually quite a few people mistake Figment for a Dragon Tales character. I've always thought Wheezie was Figment but female and attached to another dragon's body (Zak's).
 
OptimusPrime

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Frodomar449 said:
If there can be a Harold and The Purple Crayon movie and a Lyle Lyle Crocodile movie, there can be a Figment movie. And if there can be a Figment movie, there can be a Dragon Tales movie. I want us dragon fans to live in harmony. In the year 1999, Figment and Dreamfinder effectively died while Dragon Tales came out and went big, in the same part of the year too (fall 1999). June 2002, Figment came back but Dreamfinder was gone still. And Dragon Tales was at it's peak in the months following 9/11 up to 2004 where Dragon Tales had 11 million viewers weekly. Kodak pulled sponsorship in August 2010, and Dragon Tales stopped airing that same month. But then right after that Figment and Dreamfinder started getting love from Disney and they started acknowledging him again. It seems like if Figment is popular, Dragon Tales can't, and if Dragon Tales is popular, Figment can't.

My main point is, I wish I wish with all my heart, to see them both popular, not falling apart. I should probably talk about this in a specific thread for it but oh well.
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You guys think he likes Dragon Tales or....
 

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