EPCOT Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment

DoleWhipDrea

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Wonder what Nigel thinks...
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He's gone feral
 

Nautilus

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It’s the version of Imagination I grew up on so I have a soft spot for it. That being said, it should not be the longest running version of the attraction and very close to becoming the longest running attraction at EPCOT.
Interesting thought... what is the longest running unchanged attraction at Epcot? Is it this iteration of Journey? When did Living with the Land lose the onboard cast member narrators?
 

Tha Realest

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Interesting thought... what is the longest running unchanged attraction at Epcot? Is it this iteration of Journey? When did Living with the Land lose the onboard cast member narrators?
I think The American Adventure has been largely unchanged, with the last major addition occurring in 1993 (if you don't count various updates to the Golden Dreams montage)
 

Nautilus

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I think The American Adventure has been largely unchanged, with the last major addition occurring in 1993 (if you don't count various updates to the Golden Dreams montage)
Hmm.. If it wasn't for the various updates to the Golden Dreams montage maybe that would be the one... Has the current iteration of Journey into Imagination with Figment had any changes at all though (temporary Christmas sweater doesn't count)? Crazy to think that really might be the one with the least current updates/changes.
 

trainplane3

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Hmm.. If it wasn't for the various updates to the Golden Dreams montage maybe that would be the one... Has the current iteration of Journey into Imagination with Figment had any changes at all though (temporary Christmas sweater doesn't count)? Crazy to think that really might be the one with the least current updates/changes.
Many changes!
- Projector gets mis-angled
- Projector gets re-aligned
- Projector bulb burns out


Really, it's been the same sad excuse for 20 years.
 

dhslxop

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Hmm.. If it wasn't for the various updates to the Golden Dreams montage maybe that would be the one... Has the current iteration of Journey into Imagination with Figment had any changes at all though (temporary Christmas sweater doesn't count)? Crazy to think that really might be the one with the least current updates/changes.
Did Impressions de France have any significant updates from 1982 - 2020 when the Beauty and the Beast sing-a-long opened? I'm not sure if they ever did any recording or film updates.
 

aladdin2007

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Did Impressions de France have any significant updates from 1982 - 2020 when the Beauty and the Beast sing-a-long opened? I'm not sure if they ever did any recording or film updates.
I think its only change was being switched to digital. But who would know anymore since its so nice of them to hardly show it. :banghead:
and one showing at night does not count. its sad.
 

Mickeynerd17

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Hmm.. If it wasn't for the various updates to the Golden Dreams montage maybe that would be the one... Has the current iteration of Journey into Imagination with Figment had any changes at all though (temporary Christmas sweater doesn't count)? Crazy to think that really might be the one with the least current updates/changes.
Actually, some green light effects (in the transition from sound to sight) and the door out of sound have been deactivated since 2002 along with the usual maintenance problems and old animatronics/ride vehicles/abused 1983 track.

As for the image works, it started going downhill after the loss of Kodak sponsorship (all the shuttered photo rooms). Compared to 2002, it's virtually empty and what's left doesn't work like it used to.

All in all, this ride should've kicked the bucket 10 years ago at least, but here we are.
 

Dragonman

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Actually, some green light effects (in the transition from sound to sight) and the door out of sound have been deactivated since 2002 along with the usual maintenance problems and old animatronics/ride vehicles/abused 1983 track.

As for the image works, it started going downhill after the loss of Kodak sponsorship (all the shuttered photo rooms). Compared to 2002, it's virtually empty and what's left doesn't work like it used to.

All in all, this ride should've kicked the bucket 10 years ago at least, but here we are.
Unfortunately it doesn’t seem like anyone company-wise wants to update it again, they know Figment sells merch but they don’t bother with the actual attraction.

Maybe if Kodak wasn’t in financial trouble during the late 90’s/early 2000’s we could’ve got a much better update that stayed true to the original version.
 

Tha Realest

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Actually, some green light effects (in the transition from sound to sight) and the door out of sound have been deactivated since 2002 along with the usual maintenance problems and old animatronics/ride vehicles/abused 1983 track.

As for the image works, it started going downhill after the loss of Kodak sponsorship (all the shuttered photo rooms). Compared to 2002, it's virtually empty and what's left doesn't work like it used to.

All in all, this ride should've kicked the bucket 10 years ago at least, but here we are.
I go back and forth on whether they should just close it or keep it going. It's pretty painful to see its current iteration, but worry if they close it altogether that makes it less likely it's going to get the refurb it needs, and would instead be bulldozed for whatever the latest flavor-of-the-day IP gets shoehorned in there.
 

Nautilus

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Well.... blah. Just broken, deactivated, sad things that may or may not count as it being the longest running unchanged attraction at Epcot. I suppose we should be glad that it doesn't rely on projections? I mean, at least Figment's face is never a blue screen. Though a 404 in place of the Nigel moon would be...something..
 

WorldExplorer

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Well.... blah. Just broken, deactivated, sad things that may or may not count as it being the longest running unchanged attraction at Epcot. I suppose we should be glad that it doesn't rely on projections? I mean, at least Figment's face is never a blue screen. Though a 404 in place of the Nigel moon would be...something..

Current Figment is fascinating as a compare and contrast. It's interesting and kind of sad just how much physical stuff a low budget ride got in the 90s.

It's not even like they made solely what they needed to get across the point. It's got stuff in there just to be cutesy, like the reference to "The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes".

If the exact same scenario that led to this thing had happened two decades later, yeah, it would probably be projection central.
 
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Mickeynerd17

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I go back and forth on whether they should just close it or keep it going. It's pretty painful to see its current iteration, but worry if they close it altogether that makes it less likely it's going to get the refurb it needs, and would instead be bulldozed for whatever the latest flavor-of-the-day IP gets shoehorned in there.
As much as it probably shouldn't, I'd stress keeping the current ride running until WDO and WDI are willing to give figment the proper ride he deserves with Dreamfinder.

If we lose figment again, the likelihood of him returning is slim, especially if a movie IP takes over. Also, just shuttering the pavilion is an open invitation to complete removal in the future like Primeval Whirl or Horizons.
 

Mickeynerd17

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Maybe if Kodak wasn’t in financial trouble during the late 90’s/early 2000’s we could’ve got a much better update that stayed true to the original version.
Nope.

If Kodak wasn't in financial trouble, we would've gotten more of a weird hybrid of the current ride and the 83 edition. Martin's tribute to JIYI talks about it a bit I think. They still would've cut the track and moved the image works downstairs, but the ride might've had much more substance than it did.
 

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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Nope.

If Kodak wasn't in financial trouble, we would've gotten more of a weird hybrid of the current ride and the 83 edition. Martin's tribute to JIYI talks about it a bit I think. They still would've cut the track and moved the image works downstairs, but the ride might've had much more substance than it did.
And that’s the saddest part about all of this.. the fact they even ‘considered’ retheming it that way is absolutely ludicrous. Who on earth thought that a sterile tour through, essentially a warehouse, doing experiments on you via cheap carnival style illusions hosted by some actor that really only adults would appreciate from works that I’d argue aren’t the most family friendly, was “a huge improvement” over a whimsical, colorful ride a ride that showcased & promoted, perfectly, the very quality & realms of creativity/Imagination that Disney was founded upon & excelled in hosted by a lovable Santa-like professor & his exuberant purple dragon full of childlike innocence & curiosity (something nearly all come to Disney with.. hence why he connected with all of us on the Journey) & a catchy, distinctly Disney theme song. The thing that was selling the most merchandise in the park, making unforgettable meet n greet experiences, and an entire family pleaser in the park. You can’t get anymore short-sighted than that. The most idiotic decision made in Disney theme park history, by far.
 
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FigmentsBrightIdeas

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They really thought some “hit of the year/summer” kitchsy science based gimmick (in this case, being shrunk) flick theme was more relevant & timeless than the concept of creativity done in the most timeless, distinctly Disney way you can think of.
Mind boggling is a huge understatement.
 
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