EPCOT Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment

[Agent H]

They hate me so I now contribute to Tropedia.

Well now I’m interested

 

[Inspired Figment]

Truth be told, the show was what it was.. ya know. Like I know people enjoyed it. They just shouldn’t have screwed around w the guest flow (queue ropes, signage, etc.) of the pavilion all the sudden once that opened to get attendance numbers down on Journey Into Imagination. Had it stayed exactly the same as it did during the Magic Journeys-Captain EO days, I doubt they would’ve rethemed/destroyed the Journey Into Imagination ride. Would’ve been the same classic ride it always was, popular as ever today.

Another part of the problem was Disney was so cutthroat on maintenance costs at that point, since the attendance levels were lowered due to what I just mentioned, they figured that justified cheapening it it and retheming it to the Honey I Shrunk IP.

 

[Agent H]

Another part of the problem was Disney was so cutthroat on maintenance costs at that point, since the attendance levels were lowered due to what I just mentioned, they figured that justified cheapening it it and retheming it to the Honey I Shrunk IP.

Why am I not surprised?

 

[Inspired Figment]

Even the sign outside and the blueprint shown on the vehicles 99-today proudly basically show, hey, that projected maintenance cost of the turntable scene, along with Kodak’s lack of sponsorship funding as we contracted. That allowed for the Honey I Shrunk IP to take over.
And the signage, borrowed straight from Tiki Room Under New Management. (HA! We jabbed at our thoughts on new management changing classic attractions to film IP in that, let’s do the opposite side of the same coin on this ride to jab at the fans of the original Journey Into Imagination and their complaints about our negatively received IP redo we could care less of a damn about.)

 

[Agent H]

View attachment 841057Even the sign outside and the blueprint shown on the vehicles 99-today proudly basically show, hey, that projected maintenance cost of the turntable scene, along with Kodak’s lack of sponsorship funding as we contracted. That allowed for the Honey I Shrunk IP to take over.
And the signage, borrowed straight from Tiki Room Under New Management. (HA! We jabbed at our thoughts on new management changing classic attractions in that, let’s do the opposite side of the same coin on this ride to jab at the fans and their complaints about our negatively received redo we could care less of a damn about.)

Corporate mandate Eisner and Paul probably got upset at under new management making fun of them and forced the team to do the opposite on figment the funny part is the people working on the ride still got the last laugh as the ride still exists mocking them to this day

 

[Inspired Figment]

Corporate mandate Eisner and Paul probably got upset at under new management making fun of them and forced the team to do the opposite on figment the funny part is the people working on the ride still got the last laugh as the ride still exists mocking them to this day

Not really, the ride is still mocking the fans through portraying Figment as a nuisance that constantly “makes a mess of the institute” who “finally shows” Dr. Channing (the imagineers and management behind the change to begin with) that he ‘does’ have an imagination.. he just has to “turn his thinking upside down”, like the “upside down thinking Friends of Figment in “Figment’s Open House” who “put him on blast” at the end… (*facepalm*… just UGH.. GAG me. It’s SO insultingly bad, just incase you didn’t already get the smell of skunk fart out of your mind from the scene prior to that)

 

[Agent H]

Not really, the ride is still mocking the fans through portraying Figment as a nuisance that constantly “makes a mess of the institute” who “finally shows” Dr. Channing (the imagineers and management behind the change to begin with) that he ‘does’ have an imagination.. he just has to “turn his thinking upside down”, like the “upside down thinking Friends of Figment in “Figment’s Open House” who “put him on blast” at the end… (*facepalm*… just UGH.. GAG me. It’s SO insultingly bad, just incase you didn’t already get the smell of skunk fart out of your mind from the scene prior to that)

2 things can be true at the same time

 

[Inspired Figment]

2 things can be true at the same time

Part of the trouble is the two creative heads behind it literally had a large beef w Tony Baxter and his team at the time, hence why little to none of those original folks were included nor consulted on both redos of the pavilion at the time. The split could be pinpointed by the time EuroDisney failed to get the amount of hotel bookings they’d hoped and once Eisner started pushing trusted creatives away and strictly around business people once Frank Wells passed. Seems the last time the teams were working together on good terms was the WDW version of Splash Mountain. (Could be wrong on that, but that’s what it seems from my own observations)

 

[Inspired Figment]

That and because Tony Baxter & co. were basically speaking out & fighting ‘against’ the decisions of management (Eisner, Pressler) at that time, it makes further sense why they wouldn’t have been chosen for things like this at the time. (Not to mention Tokyo Disney Sea being constructed and all) But that’s corporate politics for you when things get real bad up there. The CEOs & WDI management start promoting and appointing the wrong people in the wrong positions & projects they don’t belong, despite their history & track records proving this probably not to be the best idea. And well.. yeah.. and that brings us to where we’ve been for the past few years aswell

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

At least Body Wars never got anything like that. I'd rather the entire pavilion is abandoned (JUST SO WE CAN HAVE DAVID AS KIERAN OR LOREN IN THE SIMULATOR BAY ONE DAY..... and not only that, there can be a Fantastic Voyage plot of Star-Lord in the former Making of Me theater down a few....)

Please stay on topic...This is about Figment Not Body Wars..

 

[Inspired Figment]

and that brings us to where we’ve been for the past few years aswell

and this is where I hope… maybe, somehow, someway (gotta have faith & hope here).. maybe management will either finally straighten out and get the right people in the positions they need and figure out what they need to do to get things on the right track.. or, current management needs to be replaced w a new set that genuinely understands what direction to take going forward. I genuinely don’t think it’s too difficult to figure it out.. but.. then again, I’m not a manager. lol Either way, I hope for the best.. and hopefully once things straighten out, we’ll get our proper Journey Into Imagination restoration/rehab that we’ve waited for, for decades now.

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

ok, how long do we have unti this thread loses 20 pages of convos?

 

[Zak and Wheezie]

I'll admit that the queue of the 1999 ride had some kind of very late 90s cheese. But it still was godawful

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Can we please, please, PLEASE stop making every thread like this? I open the forums after a few hours away and find six pages of like, literally, the weirdest posts I've ever seen.

 

[James Alucobond]

Can we please, please, PLEASE stop making every thread like this? I open the forums after a few hours away and find six pages of like, literally, the weirdest posts I've ever seen.

Some people just never figured out the difference between a blog and a forum.

 

[Moth]

Can we please, please, PLEASE stop making every thread like this? I open the forums after a few hours away and find six pages of like, literally, the weirdest posts I've ever seen.

Almost every thread for the last week has kinda devolved into this, I dunno what they're putting in the water but...


Figment! Let's talk about Figment. Do y'all think in a hypothetical redo of the pavilion they'll fix up/replace the water features?

 

[Zak and Wheezie]

Figment! Let's talk about Figment. Do y'all think in a hypothetical redo of the pavilion they'll fix up/replace the water features?

Probably not, if it's just the main buildings getting reworked. But if it's closer to the pre-COVID artwork, there's a good chance.

 

[Agent H]

Almost every thread for the last week has kinda devolved into this, I dunno what they're putting in the water but...


Figment! Let's talk about Figment. Do y'all think in a hypothetical redo of the pavilion they'll fix up/replace the water features?

I apologize it’s probably my fault I’ve been here about that long I’m the only thing that’s different I apologize I will strive to be better

 

[Nobody nobody]

Figment! Let's talk about Figment. Do y'all think in a hypothetical redo of the pavilion they'll fix up/replace the water features?

I hope so. At this point though, I’d be happy with my beloved figgy and dreamfinder together in something in the spirit of the original, I don’t care at this point.

Almost every thread for the last week has kinda devolved into this, I dunno what they're putting in the water but...

They’re putting aurora borealis in the water

 

[Zak and Wheezie]

I hope so. At this point though, I’d be happy with my beloved figgy and dreamfinder together in something in the spirit of the original, I don’t care at this point.

You better hope you make it to 2032 then...