Fifth Gate rumor

Scar Junior

Active Member
I find it funny that people are saying there will never be another park, that Disney isn't planning one or that one will be built in (insert random year here).

Disney never ceases to amaze us. That's what's great about the company. While one probably won't be built in the next few years, you never know what is possible. To paraphrase a lost attraction: Improbable? Maybe. Impossible? Never.

The fact is that there are people who have a lot knowledge on this board. And those who are lucky enough to know Disney's intention will not say anything about it. There's nothing in it for them other than losing their source(s)/job. Those who calim to know usually don't
 

hammysammy59

New Member
Yeah, I have to agree, Disney Seas just needs to be part of Animal Kingdom, and Disney America (or whatever) would be lame and redundant.

And again, not to just repeat what everyone else has been saying, but I'd much rather they expand their resources sprucing up the existing parks. I really do feel Animal Kingdom is a half-day park, and I'd rather it not be, because I feel like there's lots of potential there.
 

Mr. Friendly

New Member
It would be interesting to understand why any new park gets built. I think if we fully understood that, it would be easier to predict if another one may ever get buit. If we knew the conditions that dictate the need, we could see if those conditions exist or not. I guess for that matter, what makes them add atractions. Do enough people say"If you don't add another atraction, we are not giving you anymore money".

I'll start making some phone calls and get to the bottom of this.:)
 

will_rogers

New Member
Scar Junior said:
I find it funny that people are saying there will never be another park, that Disney isn't planning one or that one will be built in (insert random year here).

Disney never ceases to amaze us. That's what's great about the company. While one probably won't be built in the next few years, you never know what is possible. To paraphrase a lost attraction: Improbable? Maybe. Impossible? Never.

The fact is that there are people who have a lot knowledge on this board. And those who are lucky enough to know Disney's intention will not say anything about it. There's nothing in it for them other than losing their source(s)/job. Those who calim to know usually don't

Disney (the man) had the idea that WDW would never be "finished". With that said, I fully agree with the quoted post that DIsney can amaze and surprise us and build another park in our lifetimes. The truth is that it won't be anytime soon. The Orlando market is saturated. As people are handed more options, they have to picj and choose more wisely and things naturally get cut out. When AK opened, ALL the parks in the area felt a bump in attendance. Also add in the costs of steel/concrete/oil, staffing issues, the fact that Disney said that they want to focus on improving the existing properties, expand DVC, and the fact that at least 2 of the 4 parks are still under optimum attendance, I doubt that anyhting will happen soon. Besides, a good park takes 10+ years to design and another 2-5 to build.

In other words, Disney doesn't need it, Orlando doesn't need it, there is no return on investment. Why should the build a 5th gate anytime soon?

I'm not sure why this is still brought up. It's worse that the Horizons, Mission: Space, PIXAR rides gripes put together. (Almost, the PIXARizing the parks thing kinda ruffles my feathers).
 

Lewis Carroll

Account Suspended
A 5th. Gate will not be built in the next few years simply because there is no need for it at WDW. Disney has a long way to go to build up and expand the current 4 parks. I cant see Disney greenlighting a 5th. gate within the next 5-10 years.
 

jmvd20

Well-Known Member
hakunamatata said:
I wont try to convence you of anything....

Good idea, everyone I know tells me I've got a thick noggin :hammer: and a spelling problem. I was seeking spelling treatment but they kicked me out of the support group for lack of progress.
 

RenegadeMilkmen

New Member
I agree with what everyone else is saying. Give MGM alot more attractions, and finish AK's Beastly Kingdom- but I also think they need to add some stuff to the MK too, I think it needs another E-ticket ride and some changes to other attractions already there (get rid of the "New Management" at the Tiki Room, change SGA, etc.). Once they get all that done, then yeah- they should focus on a new park.
 

PintoColvig

Active Member
Fifth gate? I'm still waiting on the Fourth gate...

MK = one gate
EP = one gate
MGM = half gate
AK = half gate
Total = three gates

Until we actually get four complete gates, there is no need to even talk about a fifth gate.
 

SpenceMan01

Well-Known Member
PintoColvig said:
Fifth gate? I'm still waiting on the Fourth gate...

MK = one gate
EP = one gate
MGM = half gate
AK = half gate
Total = three gates

Until we actually get four complete gates, there is no need to even talk about a fifth gate.

I think many would disagree with you about MGM being a 'half gate'. Since the addition of Sunset Blvd and the accompanying attractions it can now be considered a full gate. I agree with you on AK, however.
 

PintoColvig

Active Member
SpenceMan01 said:
I think many would disagree with you about MGM being a 'half gate'. Since the addition of Sunset Blvd and the accompanying attractions it can now be considered a full gate. I agree with you on AK, however.
And many would agree with me about MGM. Whereas it is certainly more developed than AK, it does not come close to offering what MK and EP offers. It is easy to pretty much hit everything there by 6 p.m. whereas MK or EP really take more than a full day to see most everything. You are correct in mentioning Sunset Blvd. but IMO it is not enough to compensate for MGM's relatively meager offerings (that is, relative to MK and EP). The Animation tour is worthless and the Backlot tour is a shadow of what it used to be. Then there is Sounds Dangerous. None of these attractions are worth the time anymore :hurl: And, don't get me started on the loss of the "real working studio" concept. If you could visit some actually sets and see actual tv and movie filming, my outlook on MGM might be different.

I still enjoy MGM, however. Just wish there was more.
 

socalkdg

Active Member
PintoColvig said:
Fifth gate? I'm still waiting on the Fourth gate...

MK = one gate
EP = one gate
MGM = half gate
AK = half gate
Total = three gates

Until we actually get four complete gates, there is no need to even talk about a fifth gate.
Wow, to think when I vacation at WDW I spend 3 days at EP and two days each at the other three parks. I'll admit that we usually spend about 7-8 hours each day(need that quality relaxation and pool time), but none of the parks are half day parks.

I'll agree that while I'd love a complete copy of Disney Sea in Florida, there is still much they can do with the existing four parks.
 

Scar Junior

Active Member
I can't help but feel that some thought I was suggesting a park would be built soon. Not only do I not think that, but even if I did... I would never say it on these boards.

What I was getting at was: why do we need multiple people saying "It won't happen" and write off the person's original thread. It is a legitimate question/topic that was posed. The people on this board can be so damn arrogant sometimes it's rediculous. That's why I posted something alluding to: you don't always know what Disney is going to do.

Even if you do know a lot, there are others who don't... would it KILL you to respond nicely to them - perhaps with a logical explanation - rather than treat them like an annoying child? There was once a time in your life when you didn't know EVERYTHING about the Walt Disney Company too, you know.
 

rcapolete

Active Member
Original Poster
Scar Junior said:
I can't help but feel that some thought I was suggesting a park would be built soon. Not only do I not think that, but even if I did... I would never say it on these boards.

What I was getting at was: why do we need multiple people saying "It won't happen" and write off the person's original thread. It is a legitimate question/topic that was posed. The people on this board can be so damn arrogant sometimes it's rediculous. That's why I posted something alluding to: you don't always know what Disney is going to do.

Even if you do know a lot, there are others who don't... would it KILL you to respond nicely to them - perhaps with a logical explanation - rather than treat them like an annoying child? There was once a time in your life when you didn't know EVERYTHING about the Walt Disney Company too, you know.

I willl never understand why people get so bent out of shape over the threads that people start. I started this thread knowing full well that wikipedia is user based and not really accurate and i knew that this is a topic that has been talked about numerous times. Thought the idea of the op was a little different than anything i saw. If they feel it is redundant then i would suggest skipping the thread. No need to make any comments. I know i will get slack for this post too but i feel i must speak my mind cause i see certain people feel like they need to comment on every thread. Especially to bash people who they say post threads that have been talked about already. They say do a search, but god forbid you do a search and find a post from last year and then add your thoughts to it, they will complaint that you are rehashing an old thread and this too will aggrivate them, it is a no win situation.
 

hammysammy59

New Member
peter11435 said:
Not at all. DisneySeas has nothing to do with animals.

Haha, durr, my bad. That's what I get for assuming it was a Sea World type thing. Now that I know what it really is, I gotta say that it sounds just as useless in Florida as Disney America or whatever.
 

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