FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was

[pdude81]

This is actually why I think Disneyland’s MaxPass system was the best of the bunch. Legacy FP but could book them from your phone for a small daily fee.

Now that’s a good system (apart from my belief that FP raises lines in general and the parks are better off without them or should only have a very limited version )

Maxpass was only easy for people cause most people didn't pay for it. Those used to FP+ in WDW weren't prepared to run for paper FP again and have to wait for official park open to do so. So to us it was glorious. In Florida MK has more guests and less attractions. The system would be overloaded, and people would be complaining that their ten bucks didn't get them all the rides they wanted.

Charge per experience and it's a lot harder to prove you didn't get the experience you ordered.

 

[SteveAZee]

Wacky idea:

Each day of the week, one of the four parks has a 50% of normal guest cap and each guest is charged twice the normal rate for admission. People who want a lower price and can handle the crowds have three other parks to choose from; those who would like a day to enjoy the attractions with shorter lines and are willing to pay, can. No version of FP needed, at least in the one park that's got the low cap. Resort guests get first dibs on reserving the 'light' park.

 

[pdude81]

There WAS a perk though...less people.

and onsite transportation was the only way to get through security when they started letting people through the tapstiles. You got at least a 20 minute head start over anyone driving if you were at the buses 90 minutes before park opening.

 

[aaronml]

Maxpass was only easy for people cause most people didn't pay for it. Those used to FP+ in WDW weren't prepared to run for paper FP again and have to wait for official park open to do so. So to us it was glorious. In Florida MK has more guests and less attractions. The system would be overloaded, and people would be complaining that their ten bucks didn't get them all the rides they wanted.

Charge per experience and it's a lot harder to prove you didn't get the experience you ordered.

On the contrary around 50% of guests purchased MaxPass at DLR as of a couple of years ago, from what I’ve been told, which also lines up with what I’ve personally observed in terms of people using their phone vs. their physical ticket to scan to redeem FPs.

 

[SoFloMagic]

Make it simple. Standby queues. Line goes over 60 mins? Virtual Queue, you can return at 3 or buy a fastpass to get in line now for $9.99. Boom

 

[Chi84]

Make it simple. Standby queues. Line goes over 60 mins? Virtual Queue, you can return at 3 or buy a fastpass to get in line now for $9.99. Boom

$10 per person to stand in line for an hour? Simple but won’t work.

 

[pdude81]

On the contrary around 50% of guests purchased MaxPass at DLR as of a couple of years ago, from what I’ve been told, which also lines up with what I’ve personally observed in terms of people using their phone vs. their physical ticket to scan to redeem FPs.

Sure, but around 50% has to be more than 50% if we even get to "most". What's the percentage of people using FP+ at WDW pre-pandemic? 90+? What I'm trying to say is that if it was maxpass for cash or no fastpasses, everybody would have paid for it and the experience would have been different.

Day-of passes and only once in the park works fine for me, as I like to rope drop and knock out what I can early. So a maxpass-like model would be great for those in my party. I just don't think it works well for the majority of people at WDW.

 

[SirLink]

Make it simple. Standby queues. Line goes over 60 mins? Virtual Queue, you can return at 3 or buy a fastpass to get in line now for $9.99. Boom

The simple way would be standby lines only no front of the line access and no virtual queues, but this is TWDC and they want more money from all.

 

[DisneyCane]

Wacky idea:

Each day of the week, one of the four parks has a 50% of normal guest cap and each guest is charged twice the normal rate for admission. People who want a lower price and can handle the crowds have three other parks to choose from; those who would like a day to enjoy the attractions with shorter lines and are willing to pay, can. No version of FP needed, at least in the one park that's got the low cap. Resort guests get first dibs on reserving the 'light' park.

They'd have to charge more than 2x to make up for the lost ancillary revenue they get per guest on average.

My easy experiment is to double all prices (day ticket, mult-day and AP) and see how much it reduces attendance. Offer some on site perks to keep the occupancy up and not hurt their own resort revenue. If doubling the price got a 33% reduction in attendance, they'd have more manageable crowds, lower payroll and possibly more revenue.

 

[Trauma]

They'd have to charge more than 2x to make up for the lost ancillary revenue they get per guest on average.

My easy experiment is to double all prices (day ticket, mult-day and AP) and see how much it reduces attendance. Offer some on site perks to keep the occupancy up and not hurt their own resort revenue. If doubling the price got a 33% reduction in attendance, they'd have more manageable crowds, lower payroll and possibly more revenue.

I just spent $4262.43 on tickets for my upcoming trip.

You want to double that?

Here is the thing I can afford whatever price you throw at me, but eventually even those who “can” say NOPE .

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Um...

Googling around, Manhattan's under 23 square miles.

See…I was gonna say 22…but I bothered to look online and saw a wrongopedia entry at 40

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I've changed my opinion. I think Disney will give out some free passes. Get guests used to clicking on an app and getting to skip a line. Like the proverbial drug dealer who gives out free samples.

They already have been doing that with mde for several years

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I just spent $4262.43 on tickets for my upcoming trip.

You want to double that?

Here is the thing I can afford whatever price you throw at me, but eventually even those who “can” say NOPE .

How many days?

 

[Trauma]

How many days?

7 days 8 people with hopper

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

7 days 8 people with hopper

Yeah I just did 7 days (5+2) for 4 with hopper for $2400…hoping to convert them up

…can’t wait till it costs $15 to ride small world

 

[Waters Back Side]

7 days 8 people with hopper

For 8 people?? Its only 500 dollars a person for 7 days? What is the date you are going? Or is this before a resort fee?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

For 8 people?? Its only 500 dollars a person for 7 days? What is the date you are going? Or is this before a resort fee?

They’re doing + 2 for more than 4 days…and the price per day plummeted after 4…which means it raises the price very little for that length.

not breaking news

 

[Trauma]

For 8 people?? Its only 500 dollars a person for 7 days? What is the date you are going? Or is this before a resort fee?

I’m going sept 6-14 but last day not going to the parks.

That was the subtotal before I clicked thru.

It’s all I took a screenshot of to send to my wife.

There is a resort fee on park tickets?

Lol I don’t pay attention.

 

[Jrb1979]

For those saying people won't pay for FP look no further then the increase in VIP sales since FP hasn't been available.

 

[Trauma]

For 8 people?? Its only 500 dollars a person for 7 days? What is the date you are going? Or is this before a resort fee?