Fast Pass Upgraded?

wannab@dis

Well-Known Member
PagingTomMorrow said:
Point out where i said "theres no difference between value and moderate or deluxe" why dont you


i said that the amenities deluxe resort guests are offered doesnt take away from the experience of the guests in less expensive resorts. DONT put words in my mouth

Please, try to calm down and ease off the big fonts. On the forum, it's considered shouting.

PagingTomMorrow said:
yet again. none of the things offered to deluxe resort guests affects the experience of value resort guests. this proposed fastpass system would by making lines longer and less fastpasses available to nonresort guests.

I took the above post to mean the same as Hakunamata... It appeared that you were saying that there were no differences between the experience based on the resort. Amenities is part of the experience. A tiered fastpass could easily be considered an amenity.
 

PagingTomMorrow

New Member
hakunamatata said:
You posted "none of the things offered to deluxe resort guests affects the experience of value resort guests". This is not a true statement. Things offered at Deluxe resorts do affect value resorts, as they are not available at value resorts, therefore, not available to value resort guests. This would be why it would be reasonable to accept a Fastpass based tie in to resorts, as there are other things already available at Deluxe resorts that are not available to Value resorts"

I appoligize for offending you by not using the exact correct words.....and will not be a part of you trying to pick a fight.


listen and think about what im trying to get across. when i stay at port or leans riverside im not upset over the fact that the contemporary guests have monorail access because whether or not they do doesnt effect the fact that i dont. ON THE OTHER HAND... them getting more fastpasses WOULD effect my wait time which i WOULD get upset over
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
PagingTomMorrow said:
i said that the amenities deluxe resort guests are offered doesnt take away from the experience of the guests in less expensive resorts. DONT put words in my mouth
And and fast pass perks for deluxe guests will not take away from guests at the values. They will only give more to deluxe.
 

PagingTomMorrow

New Member
peter11435 said:
And and fast pass perks for deluxe guests will not take away from guests at the values. They will only give more to deluxe.


more wait time and less rides you can fit into a single day isnt taking away?
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
PagingTomMorrow said:
listen and think about what im trying to get across. when i stay at port or leans riverside im not upset over the fact that the contemporary guests have monorail access because whether or not they do doesnt effect the fact that i dont. ON THE OTHER HAND... them getting more fastpasses WOULD effect my wait time which i WOULD get upset over

Takes one to know one....but thats beside the point.

Yes, the fact that Contemporary guests are on the monorail line does affect you. They have faster access to the MK than you do. You have to travel farther to get to the MK and it takes you longer to get there. Being on the monorail line is a posted amenity in Disney advertisements that I have seen. The fact that some resorts have different amenities does affect you reguardless of what you think. The fastpass amenity would be no different than one resort having an amenity that another resort does not.
 

PagingTomMorrow

New Member
hakunamatata said:
Takes one to know one....but thats beside the point.

Yes, the fact that Contemporary guests are on the monorail line does affect you. They have faster access to the MK than you do. You have to travel farther to get to the MK and it takes you longer to get there. Being on the monorail line is a posted amenity in Disney advertisements that I have seen. The fact that some resorts have different amenities does affect you reguardless of what you think. The fastpass amenity would be no different than one resort having an amenity that another resort does not.


thats ridiculous thats like saying that the travel time of a train on one rail line from boston to new york city somehow effects the travel time of a train on a completely different and seperate rail line from Washington DC to New York... see what im trying to get across now?
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
PagingTomMorrow said:
thats ridiculous thats like saying that the travel time of a train on one rail line from boston to new york city somehow effects the travel time of a train on a completely different and seperate rail line from Washington DC to New York... see what im trying to get across now?

It could if both trains arrived in New York at the same time.
 

dwayneswife

New Member
I couldn't help weighing in on this one because I was just talking about this with my husband the other night. I was reading through the Unofficial Guide and here is what I found:

According to the Unofficial Guide for 2006,

"Disney was award US Patent 20050060173 in March 2005, which described in detail the following possible system enhancements:

"IMMEDIATE FREEBIE FASTPASSES allow guests who obtain FASTPASSes for one attraction to get a second FASTPASS at the same time good for another attraction in the same park.

"FRONT-OF-THE-LINE FASTPASS would offer guests the ability to head immediately to the front of the line once per attraction. Curiously, the patent says this may be offered both for FASTPASS and non-FASTPASS attractions.

"CONCURRENT FASTPASSES would allow guests to hold multiple valid FASTPASSes at the same time.

"SURPRISES FASTPASSES would give guests obtaining FASTPASSes at one attraction an additional FASTPASS good for up to three other attractions at different times throughout the day.

"ADVANCE FASTPASS would provide guests with three to five FASTPASSes at the beginning of their day from a central kiosk.

"TELEVISION FASTPASS would allow Disney resort guests to choose FASTPASS attractions and return times for the park they intend to visit the next day, from the comfort of their hotel room. Variations of this FASTPASS-in-advance are described in the patent for cell phones, the Internet, and pretty much any communication medium short of yodeling.

"Each FASTPASS variation in the patent includes detailed descriptions of scenarios in which guests can also select their FASTPASS return times from a list of choices, rather than having the FASTPASS system dictate when to return. If implemented, this would greatly reduce the amount of planning necessary to enjoy each park's headliner attractions and would make scheduling midday breaks and meals much easier.

"To date, Disney has been coy as to whether these FASTPASS enhancements will ever be available to the general public.

"The new patent is remarkably straightforward in explaining that the beneficiaries of these FASTPASS enhancements are Disney resort guests. In an effort to boost occupancy (and revenue) at their resorts, Disney is apparently considering a tiered FASTPASS system, where guests staying at more expensive Disney properties get more FASTPASS features. Here's a quote from the patent:

"'Spending per guest at hotels can determine different hierarchies of access to FASTPASS. Thus, the more that is spent by a patron, the higher the priority can be for FASTPASS.'"
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
PagingTomMorrow said:
thats really not the point and i hope you dont honestly think it is

Actually, yes I do.

Would you go to the Grand Canyon and say "I am going to hike throught the Grand Canyon, but I only have one day to do it, so if I cant get it done, its the Park Services fault?" I think not. If you go on vacation to a popular place and it takes longer to get through the activity that you have planned, you have to stay longer.
 

wannab@dis

Well-Known Member
PagingTomMorrow said:
thats ridiculous thats like saying that the travel time of a train on one rail line from boston to new york city somehow effects the travel time of a train on a completely different and seperate rail line from Washington DC to New York... see what im trying to get across now?

Please take your own advice and read a little closer.

He was saying that the travel time would be less via monorail from the contemporary. Therefore, people staying there would have more time at MK than you would if you travelled by bus for POR. It's the same concept as to whether or not someone getting more fastpasses would affect your park experience.

Furthermore... I'll reiterate what has been said several times. We don't know IF they will implement this, nor do we know HOW they might implement this. There's no guarantee that it would be "unlimited".
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
PagingTomMorrow said:
on completely seperate lines


you were never really good at math or sciences were you
and thats not meant to be offensive im just asking

I have a Masters Degree in Applied Mathmatical Sciences.
 

wannab@dis

Well-Known Member
dwayneswife said:
"SURPRISES FASTPASSES would give guests obtaining FASTPASSes at one attraction an additional FASTPASS good for up to three other attractions at different times throughout the day.

This has already been done in the parks.
 

PagingTomMorrow

New Member
wannab@dis said:
Please take your own advice and read a little closer.

He was saying that the travel time would be less via monorail from the contemporary. Therefore, people staying there would have more time at MK than you would if you travelled by bus for POR. It's the same concept as to whether or not someone getting more fastpasses would affect your park experience.

Furthermore... I'll reiterate what has been said several times. We don't know IF they will implement this, nor do we know HOW they might implement this. There's no guarantee that it would be "unlimited".


i know its hypothetical

you really dont get it so im gonna abandon this post cause you just dont understand what im trying to get across... maybe itll hit you later on what im trying to say
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
PagingTomMorrow said:
more wait time and less rides you can fit into a single day isnt taking away?
NOTHING will change for value resort guests. They will have the same wait times, and the same amount of attractions per day. Deluxe guests on the other hand will get less wait times, and more attractions per day. NOBODY is getting less of anything.
 

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