Possibly to set apart the parks main Icon, Cindi's Castle? :shrug:
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Possibly to set apart the parks main Icon, Cindi's Castle? :shrug:
unkadug
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SirGoofy
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Agreed, if it lives up to the hype, it'll be beautiful if nothing else.
Nicely stated.
_Scar
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Just because I'm a private guy doesn't mean I can't read other people's personalities. I can clearly see what is going on :hammer:
On topic, it seems like the faire theme for the old FLand is going to be like a fair outside castle grounds... but it's a guess. :shrug:
Edit- wait..... castle grounds in Ciny's castle.... so urrrr ... ugh
this is confusing.
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
On topic, it seems like the faire theme for the old FLand is going to be like a fair outside castle grounds... but it's a guess. :shrug:
Edit- wait..... castle grounds in Ciny's castle.... so urrrr ... ugh
The wall is Cindy's wall? If so then that would make the fair be ON castle grounds. Right?
You are right...it is a little confusing.
krankenstein
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So, yeah, FL..... :lookaroun
_Scar
Active Member
Yea, and I've always though a the fair would be off castle grounds... still, WDW should not use a fair theme anymore and they should make it a European village.
Can anyone help me with my observations.... I can paint a mental picture in my mind of the beginning of western FLand looking at FLand's skyway station, does anybody know with the new plans what would go there?
RSoxNo1
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The complaints about this expansion being geared towards girls are legit. The satisfaction level of young girls will probably be the highest of any demographic. But most of Fantasyland is geared towards children already. There is nothing wrong with this.
This is a welcome addition - a major attraction, a massive improvement to a popular ride (Dumbo), several diversionary attractions in the Princess locales, and 2 restaurants.
We have to realize that the majority of the people on these forums, the majority of the fanbois so to say, are adults. Although collectively we may enjoy Fantasyland, I imagine that if we were to list our top attractions it would be those that were geared more towards adults. Any addition to Fantasyland was likely going to fall out of that description.
With all that said, I have high expectations for this - I don't have any children, and I have a nephew who will be 6 when this opens, and another that should be born in January of 2010, so he'll be 3 when this opens. I imagine they will both love the colors, love the Dumbo area, and possibly love Ariel's Adventure, but I would also expect that girls of the same age would love it that much more.
This is a welcome addition - a major attraction, a massive improvement to a popular ride (Dumbo), several diversionary attractions in the Princess locales, and 2 restaurants.
We have to realize that the majority of the people on these forums, the majority of the fanbois so to say, are adults. Although collectively we may enjoy Fantasyland, I imagine that if we were to list our top attractions it would be those that were geared more towards adults. Any addition to Fantasyland was likely going to fall out of that description.
With all that said, I have high expectations for this - I don't have any children, and I have a nephew who will be 6 when this opens, and another that should be born in January of 2010, so he'll be 3 when this opens. I imagine they will both love the colors, love the Dumbo area, and possibly love Ariel's Adventure, but I would also expect that girls of the same age would love it that much more.
imagineer boy
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The castle wall could working for when construction is going on, but judging from the concept art picture I'm afraid it might cause a bottle neck for crowds. Didn't they want to stop FL over crowding?
jakeman
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If they are removing Dumbo to another location, I don't see how a porous wall facade would hinder traffic anymore than what is there now.
You also have to consider it will be opening to a much larger area.
There will be times during the construction that it will be worse than it is now for traffic flow, but that is just the nature of the beast.
DisneyRoxMySox
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I am going to agree here. There is no one in my family who really spends a lot of time in FL anymore. We still try to get on the classics at least once, but after that, we move on. There are other things in MK we are much more intrested in.
That being said, whatever Disney decided to FL was a major improvement. We aren't losing anything that we have now. What could they have done to make it better? It looks as if there was room for maybe one more dark ride? (Not counting what I feel most of us hope for, BatB dark ride) I don't see any direction that would have been better than what we are going to expand too. Perhaps an area dedicated to Pinnochio instead of Pixie Hollow?
SirGoofy
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I study, take a few hours off from the internet, read, watch some football and THIS breaks out.:lookaroun Yay.:lol:
FANTASTIC! Can't wait to see those walls.
Honestly, I would love it it ALL got refurbed. It wouldn't be to hard to just change the facades with the attractions open, just look at MSUSA.
DAK...however...
I know it's MK and all, but really?
Yeah, I got the opposite of that. He looked uncomfortable, spoke uncomfortably, and honestly just didn't feel into it. IMHO, of course.
Fanboy? He was ordered to to do this.:shrug:
*snicker*
Looks reasonable, and honestly, very nice.I had to head out for the day and I missed all the fun of the big announcements! But Ijust knew there would be stuff happening at Jay's speech regarding WDW, and that the big video screens of the Anaheim Arena would be where the action was on Saturday even though the Parks & Resorts pavilion on the exhibit floor was devoid of WDW news.
I couldn't help but notice that the "interactive games" in the Dumbo's Circus queue look alot like the new Dumbo Bucket Brigade midway game at California Adventure. I bet they'll be using that type of game as an inspiration for this interactive queue idea.
I really like how Jay said the queue would be like "the first act in a show". That's something Disney got away from in recent years, after perfecting the idea in the 1960's and 70's on D and E Tickets. But I think it's the first time they've tried it with a simpler, smaller attraction like Dumbo.
Seeing the above, sounds about right.
Yep. This is ALL Lassetter. AKA jt's Sheriff.:lookaroun
Yep.
:sohappy:
FANTASTIC! Can't wait to see those walls.
I'm thinking that it will be two distinct areas. In one area, we have the Medieval Tent Area, and the other, the newer, more lush environment.
Honestly, I would love it it ALL got refurbed. It wouldn't be to hard to just change the facades with the attractions open, just look at MSUSA.
I like the idea, but not for FL. FL has moved past that, unfortunately.This new Fantasyland expansion for the Magic Kingdom looks very impressive in terms of scale, but in my opinion, it is sadly unlikely that the new Fantasyland will be re-built that big, because it will most likely be shrunken down to save money
Also, I think it looks boring and SO NOT unique, with a direct clone of the Little Mermaid ride, and a bloody circus tent from Dumbo, whoop-di-do!!!
What needs to be added in the new Fantasyland is a HUGE real lagoon with a fully-functional 200ft long Nautilus sub (not a concrete one, but a proper metal submarine) from 20'000 Leagues Under The Sea docked in the center, with vast tropical landscaping, volcanic rock, palm trees, and waterfalls.
Also, a cave can be built nearby, with Captain Nemo's incredible inventions dispalyed inside.
That would be more interesting, what do you guys think?
DAK...however...
How?! A park vs a Land....
I know it's MK and all, but really?
Yeah, I got the opposite of that. He looked uncomfortable, spoke uncomfortably, and honestly just didn't feel into it. IMHO, of course.
Fanboy? He was ordered to to do this.:shrug:
*snicker*
jt04
Well-Known Member
I study, take a few hours off from the internet, read, watch some football and THIS breaks out.:lookaroun Yay.:lol:
Looks reasonable, and honestly, very nice.
Seeing the above, sounds about right.
Yep. This is ALL Lassetter. AKA jt's Sheriff.:lookaroun
Yep.
:sohappy:
FANTASTIC! Can't wait to see those walls.
I'm thinking that it will be two distinct areas. In one area, we have the Medieval Tent Area, and the other, the newer, more lush environment.
Honestly, I would love it it ALL got refurbed. It wouldn't be to hard to just change the facades with the attractions open, just look at MSUSA.
I like the idea, but not for FL. FL has moved past that, unfortunately.
DAK...however...
How?! A park vs a Land....
I know it's MK and all, but really?
Yeah, I got the opposite of that. He looked uncomfortable, spoke uncomfortably, and honestly just didn't feel into it. IMHO, of course.
Fanboy? He was ordered to to do this.:shrug:
He was nervous but he is a bit like Lasseter in enjoying the stuff. No doubt.
krankenstein
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They aren't the only ones. Robin Hood would've been a perfect addition to the new FL in both look and setting.
Uncle Lupe
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Glad to see that turkey legs will still be included after the big expansion.
Animaniac93-98
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More thoughts:
- I know this is way to early to speculate but I hope each section has it's own area music loop. Walking into the BatB section and hearing the first 30 seconds of the prologue music from that movie would be amazing. Or what about the Tour of the Kingdom music from The Little Mermaid? Lots of possibilities for source music to be expanded upon.
- I also hope the Batb area will have fake tress planted to give a perpetual autumn look to the area like what is shown in the movie's opening and concept art. I also wonder if the Ballroom and West Wing are 2 of the 3 eating areas of Be Our Guest what will be the third? And will their connecting hallways feature suits of armour who's heads follow at you as you walk by?
- Finally about BatB I think the area itself will far more please fans of the film than any ride shoehorned into Snow White's building. The size of the area coupled with the detail and the ability to tour and interact with it at your own pace and have a different experience each time will be much better than some 3 minute trip that's done before you know it.
- I doubt Dumbo's queue won't be a line. More likely a queue around an arena area with games along it so it can be called an "attraction" when it is really a line for the Dumbo ride
- I was concerned about the castle wall's effect on traffic too, but jakeman is right about Dumbo already blocking people there so it can't be much worse.
- I have no issue with the current look for West Fantasyland staying. Not much can be done with Small World's exterior and since the Carousel won't go I say just keep it the way it is. It's only one section after all (just update and improve Peter on the inside and repaint the Carousel's canopy).
- I know this is way to early to speculate but I hope each section has it's own area music loop. Walking into the BatB section and hearing the first 30 seconds of the prologue music from that movie would be amazing. Or what about the Tour of the Kingdom music from The Little Mermaid? Lots of possibilities for source music to be expanded upon.
- I also hope the Batb area will have fake tress planted to give a perpetual autumn look to the area like what is shown in the movie's opening and concept art. I also wonder if the Ballroom and West Wing are 2 of the 3 eating areas of Be Our Guest what will be the third? And will their connecting hallways feature suits of armour who's heads follow at you as you walk by?
- Finally about BatB I think the area itself will far more please fans of the film than any ride shoehorned into Snow White's building. The size of the area coupled with the detail and the ability to tour and interact with it at your own pace and have a different experience each time will be much better than some 3 minute trip that's done before you know it.
- I doubt Dumbo's queue won't be a line. More likely a queue around an arena area with games along it so it can be called an "attraction" when it is really a line for the Dumbo ride
- I was concerned about the castle wall's effect on traffic too, but jakeman is right about Dumbo already blocking people there so it can't be much worse.
- I have no issue with the current look for West Fantasyland staying. Not much can be done with Small World's exterior and since the Carousel won't go I say just keep it the way it is. It's only one section after all (just update and improve Peter on the inside and repaint the Carousel's canopy).
cindy_k
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Glad to see that turkey legs will still be included after the big expansion.
Instead of beer, that could really be Cola in glass mugs.