Fantasmic Reopening Watch

[JohnD]

I read a comment elsewhere online that I have to agree with. The hero segment is not a true medley, but 5 individual scenes that, in isolation are fine, but played back-to-back don't work as a whole.

There's nothing really trying them together and the transitions before and after this segment not as smooth. It's also mostly characters from the official Disney Princess line up (even Aladdin is a character directly linked to one), which means we now we effectively have two Princess scenes in a row.

Since when does a dream have to make sense?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Since when does a dream have to make sense?

When they're being viewed by five thousand conscious people who paid a lot to be entertained and not subjected to random, "Look at this. Now this. Now this. Now this. The end."

Otherwise, bring back Suddenly Colonialists, because dreams don't have to make sense.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Since when does a dream have to make sense?

???

The conceit of the show being a dream does not mean it can't have any kind of through line or cohesion as it already does in other parts.

Disney used to be the master of mixing and contrasting its various theme music. Now it just plays them in whatever order.

The same show still has the bubbles scene, which say what you want about its presentation, works musically when you hear it.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Disney fans:

<looks at Fantasmic!> Here are my suggestions to make this better!

<looks at other fans' suggestions> Dreams don't have to make sense!!!!

 

[SaucyBoy]

I'm not completely sold on the hero segment. There are definite pacing issues that should have been addressed. That said, it looks visually the best it ever has.

 

[VJ]

We all applaud upgrades, once they come, over the objections of those who never want any change.

in this case, disney was trying to appease both groups... when that is impossible by nature

 

[marni1971]

correct

Of course.

 

[fgmnt]

Better than DHS 1.0? Overall yes. Better than Anaheim 2.0 or 2.5? IMHO no.

And for the love of god maintain all the lasers.

More than any changes to the show, I was struck by how crisp it looked. So used to this show being so very tired.

 

[gerarar]

Here's a clip of the brand new choreography in the finale. All the characters on the boat stop and look up towards Mickey as the lyrics "Dreams are make believe, but they all come true!" play. Besides this, all the performers with ribbons (besides Ariel/Eric) spin once again as part of the refreshed choreography.

One of my new favorite moments in the show. All the characters that helped Mickey along his journey/dream are there for him.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Here's a clip of the brand new choreography in the finale. All the characters on the boat stop and look up towards Mickey as the lyrics "Dreams are make believe, but they all come true!" play. Besides this, all the performers with ribbons (besides Ariele/Eric) spin once again as part of the refreshed choreography.

One of my new favorite moments. All the characters that helped Mickey along his journey/dream are there for him.

And the rebuilt boat looks great!

Love the choreography on it now as well, so dynamic and energetic.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Also very interesting that they added lasers to project onto the mountain, but not projectors. I wonder if projections like Disneyland were in the plan, and got cut?

The lasers do add a nice element, although it feels like they should be enhancing projection mapping as opposed to… being the projection?

 

[Starship824]

Also very interesting that they added lasers to project onto the mountain, but not projectors. I wonder if projections like Disneyland were in the plan, and got cut?

The lasers do add a nice element, although it feels like they should be enhancing projection mapping as opposed to… being the projection?

Yes I feel like especially during the Frozen segment there was supposed to be projections with ice

 

[Disney Analyst]

Yes I feel like especially during the Frozen segment there was supposed to be projections with ice

Oh gosh, that would look incredible. I hope they don't wait too long and finish what they started. New fountains and projections during the next refurb.

 

[gerarar]

Also very interesting that they added lasers to project onto the mountain, but not projectors. I wonder if projections like Disneyland were in the plan, and got cut?

The lasers do add a nice element, although it feels like they should be enhancing projection mapping as opposed to… being the projection?

WDW also got one more thing, something that DL had before the actual projections with 2.0

They are like these special "projector" spotlights that produce shapes and spin in a circle. DL got these with their 1.5 update iirc. You can notice them a lot during the intro and in the finale.

I still feel like the projection mapping at DL needs some work. It just feels clunky during some parts, like the Aladdin sequence, Pirates, etc.

 

[Disney Analyst]

WDW also got one more thing, something that DL had before the actual projections with 2.0

They are like these special "projector" spotlights that produce shapes and spin in a circle. DL got these with their 1.5 update iirc. You can notice them a lot during the intro and in the finale.
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I still feel like the projection mapping at DL needs some work. It just feels clunky during some parts, like the Aladdin sequence, Pirates, etc.

Right, while DHS did have the smarter moving lights before, which is employed in most theatres these days, it didn't seem like they were using or had the digital gobos.

So those moving "smart" lights can create gobos digitally, instead of having to insert a fabricated gobo, or a gobo slider.

 

[Vinnie Mac]

I’ll keep HEA, thanks.

We don't even know if it'll be the same HEA we love. If it doesn't work out we're screwed.

As for Epcot, it will be better than Harm and should look better than RoE. We will see about story…

You have sources?

 

[Starship824]

Oh gosh, that would look incredible. I hope they don't wait too long and finish what they started. New fountains and projections during the next refurb.

Yes they should really add in projection mapping and in my option they should update the opening fantasia footage to the Disneyland 2.0 footage as well as the magic mirror and dragon footage.

 

[Vinnie Mac]

Yes they should really add in projection mapping and in my option they should update the opening fantasia footage to the Disneyland 2.0 footage as well as the magic mirror and dragon footage.

I'm gonna be 100% real with you, I feel like the lighting system has been upgraded so much that projection mapping might not be necessary anymore. The lighting on the mountain is simplistic when it needs to be and colorful and vibrant when it needs to be.

 

[Disney Analyst]

 

[Vinnie Mac]

I love how energetic the crowd was last night. Was very reminiscent of Illumination's final show and HEA's debut night. Nice to hear a crowd of people excited for something at a Disney park again.